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Browns sign safety Andrew Sandejo

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  • darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by darren15
    #1

    Yessssss, so wanted this one.....ball hawk safety....look at Harris thread where I said want him....1 year $2.5m....Berry took my advice ?

  • ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
    #2

    don't know a damn thing about him

    bio anyone ?

    and damn another 1 year deal

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Well...I said that we were going to need at least 2-3 safeties....and we got 2 now, right?   

    And what IS the status of Randall?

    Did he sign somewhere? 

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #4

    Browns going 'prove it' and will probably target promising rookies to ease them into the role(s).

  • don't know a damn thing about him

    bio anyone ?

    and damn another 1 year deal

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @atom said:

    don't know a damn thing about him

    bio anyone ?

    and damn another 1 year deal

    Maybe its a "Moneyball" thing. 

    Isn't that what the A's did with baseball players?  Get a lot of guys on 1 year prove it deals? 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Experienced Lives Matter

    "ELM"

  • @atom said:

    don't know a damn thing about him

    bio anyone ?

    and damn another 1 year deal

    Maybe its a "Moneyball" thing. 

    Isn't that what the A's did with baseball players?  Get a lot of guys on 1 year prove it deals? 

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
    #7

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe its a "Moneyball" thing. 

    Isn't that what the A's did with baseball players?  Get a lot of guys on 1 year prove it deals? 

    honestly i do not have the slightest idea

  • B browns23 wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Yeah the A’s notorious for this. They can’t afford to be locked down to underperforming contracts because they are a small market team.

    Like this for the Browns. Gives them the opportunity to not overreach for need in the draft and take BPA. Also, they can possibly strike gold on a player or two. It seems this off-season they have been taking underperforming former high round picks. 

  • Yeah the A’s notorious for this. They can’t afford to be locked down to underperforming contracts because they are a small market team.

    Like this for the Browns. Gives them the opportunity to not overreach for need in the draft and take BPA. Also, they can possibly strike gold on a player or two. It seems this off-season they have been taking underperforming former high round picks. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #9

    @browns23 said:

    Yeah the A’s notorious for this. They can’t afford to be locked down to underperforming contracts because they are a small market team.

    Like this for the Browns. Gives them the opportunity to not overreach for need in the draft and take BPA. Also, they can possibly strike gold on a player or two. It seems this off-season they have been taking underperforming former high round picks. 

    And, if they don't work out:  Sayonara.

  • Well...I said that we were going to need at least 2-3 safeties....and we got 2 now, right?   

    And what IS the status of Randall?

    Did he sign somewhere? 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #10

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...I said that we were going to need at least 2-3 safeties....and we got 2 now, right?  

    At least 2 suffices as 3>2...

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe its a "Moneyball" thing. 

    Isn't that what the A's did with baseball players?  Get a lot of guys on 1 year prove it deals? 

    No...

    Moneyball used Bill James' analytics to ID under-valued players. Then they locked those players up for as long as was reasonable considering their age. They believed in their system enough to commit to multi-year deal believing the odds were that most they signed were going to succeed. They knew that when they were right that the player's would succeed to the point that they would be unaffordable when it came time to renew their contract.

    Helps, if you read the book...

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #11

    Lots of 1 yr deals.  By mid-season, if they like some of these guys, then hopefully they get them signed up for longer periods of time.

    At least it looks like we'll be able to field a team next season though (except for LB'er at the moment).

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well...I said that we were going to need at least 2-3 safeties....and we got 2 now, right?  

    At least 2 suffices as 3>2...

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe its a "Moneyball" thing. 

    Isn't that what the A's did with baseball players?  Get a lot of guys on 1 year prove it deals? 

    No...

    Moneyball used Bill James' analytics to ID under-valued players. Then they locked those players up for as long as was reasonable considering their age. They believed in their system enough to commit to multi-year deal believing the odds were that most they signed were going to succeed. They knew that when they were right that the player's would succeed to the point that they would be unaffordable when it came time to renew their contract.

    Helps, if you read the book...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #12

    @tour2ma said:

    At least 2 suffices as 3>2...

    No...

    Moneyball used Bill James' analytics to ID under-valued players. Then they locked those players up for as long as was reasonable considering their age. They believed in their system enough to commit to multi-year deal believing the odds were that most they signed were going to succeed. They new that when they were right that the player's would succeed to the point that they would be unaffordable when it came time to renew their contract.

    Helps, if you read the book...

    I didn't read it. Just saw the movie.   It is why I asked the question.  But it does sound at least partial Moneyball.  It seems, maybe, that these guys signed to one year deals are those that their analytics identify as  under-valued players?   For whatever reason then, with these guys, they varied from it by only going with one year deals.   They didn't do the same with Hooper, Keenum, Conklin though. Was it because they were NOT viewed as "Under-valued" players? 

  • Well...I said that we were going to need at least 2-3 safeties....and we got 2 now, right?   

    And what IS the status of Randall?

    Did he sign somewhere? 

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...I said that we were going to need at least 2-3 safeties....and we got 2 now, right?   

    And what IS the status of Randall?

    Did he sign somewhere? 

    After this past year I'll personally pack Randall's bags out of town.   

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #14

    Sendejo rhymes with , "Pendejo".. I like it... good signing..

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS
    #15

    So many holes being filled. Before the draft. This is nice. Welcome to Cleveland, Sendejo!

    Are these safety signings a sign of

    “build it and they will come.” ?

    Do these guys see an opportunity for a bigger contract by coming here?

  • Sendejo rhymes with , "Pendejo".. I like it... good signing..

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @nickers said:

    Sendejo rhymes with , "Pendejo".. I like it... good signing..

    Asshole!!

    No, I wasn't calling you that nick....just interpreting!! 😁

  • So many holes being filled. Before the draft. This is nice. Welcome to Cleveland, Sendejo!

    Are these safety signings a sign of

    “build it and they will come.” ?

    Do these guys see an opportunity for a bigger contract by coming here?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Do these guys see an opportunity for a bigger contract by coming here?

    Your take seems right to me...

    I'd guess ours was the best offer they saw, and they we're willing to bet on themselves and use us to springboard to the big bucks in another round of FA in 2021.

  • @nickers said:

    Sendejo rhymes with , "Pendejo".. I like it... good signing..

    Asshole!!

    No, I wasn't calling you that nick....just interpreting!! 😁

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @the-gipper said:

    Asshole!!

    No, I wasn't calling you that nick....just interpreting!! 😁

    I know your Honor...?.. All good.. And stay safe.. We all need to pull together and eradicate this COVID-19 ..

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #19

    I'd forgotten Sandejo was a Rice grad... For a long time Rice was good to produce a Pro per class... at least on average... but it's been while. Covington was the last and that's been a few years ago. Still... pretty good for a smallish school with very high academic standards.

    I did not realize Andrew was as old as he is, so this time we've added an old injury history. He's not posted a complete season since he became a full-time starter in 2015. Prior to that he was part-time starter.

    He will definitely increase the brain power in the DB room... but...

    Sendejo has been primarily a SS, just like Joseph... so Andrew moves to FS where he's had a handful of starts all of which were on years-younger legs?

    Darren?

  • I'd forgotten Sandejo was a Rice grad... For a long time Rice was good to produce a Pro per class... at least on average... but it's been while. Covington was the last and that's been a few years ago. Still... pretty good for a smallish school with very high academic standards.

    I did not realize Andrew was as old as he is, so this time we've added an old injury history. He's not posted a complete season since he became a full-time starter in 2015. Prior to that he was part-time starter.

    He will definitely increase the brain power in the DB room... but...

    Sendejo has been primarily a SS, just like Joseph... so Andrew moves to FS where he's had a handful of starts all of which were on years-younger legs?

    Darren?

    darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @tour2ma said:

    I'd forgotten Sandejo was a Rice grad... For a long time Rice was good to produce a Pro per class... at least on average... but it's been while. Covington was the last and that's been a few years ago. Still... pretty good for a smallish school with very high academic standards.

    I did not realize Andrew was as old as he is, so this time we've added an old injury history. He's not posted a complete season since he became a full-time starter in 2015. Prior to that he was part-time starter.

    He will definitely increase the brain power in the DB room... but...

    Sendejo has been primarily a SS, just like Joseph... so Andrew moves to FS where he's had a handful of starts all of which were on years-younger legs?

    Darren?

    A rice grad .....does he have an Uncle Ben ?