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  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, when 10-12  QBs per year are throwing for  4000 yards,  and when QBs are throwing for upwards of 35-40 TDs per year,   I would say that Dak did have one really good year (2019)   and 3 mediocre years. (where his  3300ish and 22-23 ish TDs would not have put him into the top 10 or 15 in those categories per year) 

    E.g.   in 2018, Baker's  rookie year,   he had more TDs  27 vs 22  and was only about 160  (3885 vs 3725)  yards less than Dak...in only 13 games vs 16 for Dak. 

    And Baker's "Bad" season last year of  22 TDs and  3827 yards,  was as good as or better than  Dak's first 3 years.   (Baker's year was "bad"  admittedly because of the 21 Ints. he threw....which is quite a few more than Dak has thrown in any year in his careeer).  But that is just in comparison to Baker, not to any other QB in the league. 

    Well 2018 was a Pro Bowl year for Dak and 2016 he threw for 23 TDS and only 4 INTs.  
     

    i don’t even know what to make or where to start with your last paragraph 

    i could give a flip about the Cowboys but he’s put up great numbers overall in four years. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Well 2018 was a Pro Bowl year for Dak and 2016 he threw for 23 TDS and only 4 INTs.  
     

    i don’t even know what to make or where to start with your last paragraph 
     

    What you make of it is this:     In 2019 Baker had 22 TDs....and 3827 yards.  Which numbers are essentially as good or better than  3 out of 4 seasons that Dak has played. 

    Even in Daks  "good season"  the team only went 8-8 and did not make the playoffs. 

    Or you can make this of it:    I would NOT trade Baker's future for Dak's.    OK, sure, one was  #1 overall, and the under was an underrated 4th round pick.  Be that as it may.....I like Baker's chances, if we were just comparing those two.  But we can't just compare those two,  because you set the "standard" by saying Dak had  put together 3 GREAT seasons, meaning you were comparing him to the rest of the QBs in the NFL.     

    So,  2019,  Dak was second in the league with most passing yards.    He was 4th with 30 TDs.

    In 2018   he was  15th  in passing yards.  He was  16th in TDs

    In 2017  he was 16th in passing yards.  He was 14th in TDs

    in 2016 he was 19th in passing yards.  He was 16th in TDs. 

    These stats tell us that statistically, he has been a middle of the road NFL QB.   But...he may be getting better, since this last season was by far better than his previous 3. You may want to throw in some other stats, don't know if that will help.   He has had good, low Ints.  percentages  (does that mean he is cautious)  He is having a "great-ish" career....for a 4th round draft pick, I will grant you that. 

  • @bob806 said:

    We got thrown out of Jerry's place in 2012, after the 3rd PI call in a row on Buster Skrine. Refs gave the Cowboys that game. 

    Beautiful stadium, but it's weird in a way....not many tailgaters at Cowboy games it seems. There were many Browns fans about doing that.

    Someone said it costs like 50-100 bucks to park there.   Is there public transportation to get to the stadium? At those prices maybe everyone decides to ride to the games, thus not tailgating. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Someone said it costs like 50-100 bucks to park there.   Is there public transportation to get to the stadium? At those prices maybe everyone decides to ride to the games, thus not tailgating. 

    I do recall it was pricey, but it didn't stop us. But you might be right on the public transportation.

    I have heard that the Dallas-Fort Worth area has the highest cost-of-living outside of the coastal cities in the USA.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Well 2018 was a Pro Bowl year for Dak and 2016 he threw for 23 TDS and only 4 INTs.  
     

    i don’t even know what to make or where to start with your last paragraph 
     

    What you make of it is this:     In 2019 Baker had 22 TDs....and 3827 yards.  Which numbers are essentially as good or better than  3 out of 4 seasons that Dak has played. 

    Even in Daks  "good season"  the team only went 8-8 and did not make the playoffs. 

    Or you can make this of it:    I would NOT trade Baker's future for Dak's.    OK, sure, one was  #1 overall, and the under was an underrated 4th round pick.  Be that as it may.....I like Baker's chances, if we were just comparing those two.  But we can't just compare those two,  because you set the "standard" by saying Dak had  put together 3 GREAT seasons, meaning you were comparing him to the rest of the QBs in the NFL.     

    So,  2019,  Dak was second in the league with most passing yards.    He was 4th with 30 TDs.

    In 2018   he was  15th  in passing yards.  He was  16th in TDs

    In 2017  he was 16th in passing yards.  He was 14th in TDs

    in 2016 he was 19th in passing yards.  He was 16th in TDs. 

    These stats tell us that statistically, he has been a middle of the road NFL QB.   But...he may be getting better, since this last season was by far better than his previous 3. You may want to throw in some other stats, don't know if that will help.   He has had good, low Ints.  percentages  (does that mean he is cautious)  He is having a "great-ish" career....for a 4th round draft pick, I will grant you that. 

    @the-gipper said:

    What you make of it is this:     In 2019 Baker had 22 TDs....and 3827 yards.  Which numbers are essentially as good or better than  3 out of 4 seasons that Dak has played. 

    Even in Daks  "good season"  the team only went 8-8 and did not make the playoffs. 

    Or you can make this of it:    I would NOT trade Baker's future for Dak's.    OK, sure, one was  #1 overall, and the under was an underrated 4th round pick.  Be that as it may.....I like Baker's chances, if we were just comparing those two.  But we can't just compare those two,  because you set the "standard" by saying Dak had  put together 3 GREAT seasons, meaning you were comparing him to the rest of the QBs in the NFL.     

    So,  2019,  Dak was second in the league with most passing yards.    He was 4th with 30 TDs.

    In 2018   he was  15th  in passing yards.  He was  16th in TDs

    In 2017  he was 16th in passing yards.  He was 14th in TDs

    in 2016 he was 19th in passing yards.  He was 16th in TDs. 

    These stats tell us that statistically, he has been a middle of the road NFL QB.   But...he may be getting better, since this last season was by far better than his previous 3. You may want to throw in some other stats, don't know if that will help.   He has had good, low Ints.  percentages  (does that mean he is cautious)  He is having a "great-ish" career....for a 4th round draft pick, I will grant you that. 

    He (Baker) had 21 INTs I think you and I value different qualities and stats with our QBs

    there is no use arguing anymore. 

  • We are playing the Jags Week 12 

  • @the-gipper said:

    What you make of it is this:     In 2019 Baker had 22 TDs....and 3827 yards.  Which numbers are essentially as good or better than  3 out of 4 seasons that Dak has played. 

    Even in Daks  "good season"  the team only went 8-8 and did not make the playoffs. 

    Or you can make this of it:    I would NOT trade Baker's future for Dak's.    OK, sure, one was  #1 overall, and the under was an underrated 4th round pick.  Be that as it may.....I like Baker's chances, if we were just comparing those two.  But we can't just compare those two,  because you set the "standard" by saying Dak had  put together 3 GREAT seasons, meaning you were comparing him to the rest of the QBs in the NFL.     

    So,  2019,  Dak was second in the league with most passing yards.    He was 4th with 30 TDs.

    In 2018   he was  15th  in passing yards.  He was  16th in TDs

    In 2017  he was 16th in passing yards.  He was 14th in TDs

    in 2016 he was 19th in passing yards.  He was 16th in TDs. 

    These stats tell us that statistically, he has been a middle of the road NFL QB.   But...he may be getting better, since this last season was by far better than his previous 3. You may want to throw in some other stats, don't know if that will help.   He has had good, low Ints.  percentages  (does that mean he is cautious)  He is having a "great-ish" career....for a 4th round draft pick, I will grant you that. 

    He (Baker) had 21 INTs I think you and I value different qualities and stats with our QBs

    there is no use arguing anymore. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    He (Baker) had 21 INTs I think you and I value different qualities and stats with our QBs

    there is no use arguing anymore. 

    I said that was Baker's one drawback.   

    On the other hand, it may be indicative of Baker taking more risks, and Dak being a far more conservative QB. 

  • supposed to be announced in about a half hr.

    Jim Donovan says it will be the fourth weakest schedule in the NFL.

    about time we caught a break.

  • 1) @ Ravens

    2) vs Cinn. TNF

    3) vs Redskins

    4) @ Cowboys

    5) vs Colts

    6) @ Pittsburgh

    7) @ Cinn.

    8.) vs LV Raiders 

    9) BYE

    10) vs Texans

    11) vs Eagles

    12) @ Jags

    13) @ Titans

    14) vs Ravens MNF 

    15) @ NYG

    16) @ NYJ  Sat. or Sun.

    17) vs Pittsburgh 

  • Week Date Opponent Time TV Tickets
    1 Sept. 13 at Baltimore Ravens 1 p.m. CBS Tickets
    2 Sept. 17 (Thurs.) Cincinnati Bengals 8:20 p.m. NFLN Tickets
    3 Sept. 27 Washington Redskins 1 p.m. FOX Tickets
    4 Oct. 4 at Dallas Cowboys 1 p.m. FOX Tickets
    5 Oct. 11 Indianapolis Colts 4:25 p.m. CBS Tickets
    6 Oct. 18 at Pittsburgh Steelers 1 p.m. CBS Tickets
    7 Oct. 25 at Cincinnati Bengals 1 p.m. CBS Tickets
    8 Nov. 1 Las Vegas Raiders 1 p.m. FOX Tickets
    9   BYE      
    10 Nov. 15 Houston Texans 1 p.m. FOX Tickets
    11 Nov. 22 Philadelphia Eagles 1 p.m. FOX Tickets
    12 Nov. 29 at Jacksonville Jaguars 1 p.m. CBS Tickets
    13 Dec. 6 at Tennessee Titans 1 p.m. CBS Tickets
    14 Dec. 14 (Mon.) Baltimore Ravens 8:15 p.m. ESPN Tickets
    15 Dec. 20 at NY Giants 1 p.m. CBS Tickets
    16 Dec. 26/27 at NY Jets TBD TBD Tickets
    17 Jan. 3 Pittsburgh Steelers 1 p.m. CBS Tickets

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  • Cool having the home opener on primetime 

  • So much for the rumor that they were going to put all the non -conference games in the beginning of the season. 

  • Would rather have played the Ravens in a couple of weeks, after we have a few games under our belt. The flip side of that, of course, is that they won't have any game tape to watch of us, and we will be a larger unknown than they will be to us.

  • So much for rumors like "all the AFC/NFC meetings will be in the 1st 4 weeks".

    Tough opening turnaround for us with BLT on a Sunday then hosting the Bengals the following Thursday nite.

    Also gets a little crazy at the end with 3 games in a 12-day span... hosting BLT on MNF than at NYG and at NYJ.

  • So much for rumors like "all the AFC/NFC meetings will be in the 1st 4 weeks".

    Tough opening turnaround for us with BLT on a Sunday then hosting the Bengals the following Thursday nite.

    Also gets a little crazy at the end with 3 games in a 12-day span... hosting BLT on MNF than at NYG and at NYJ.

    @tour2ma said:

    So much for rumors like "all the AFC/NFC meetings will be in the 1st 4 weeks".

    😳

    Tough opening turnaround for us with BLT on a Sunday then hosting the Bengals the following Thursday nite.

    Also gets a little crazy at the end with 3 games in a 12-day span... hosting BLT on MNF than at NYG and at NYJ.

    Christmas in NYC anyone? 

  • @tour2ma said:

    So much for rumors like "all the AFC/NFC meetings will be in the 1st 4 weeks".

    😳

    Tough opening turnaround for us with BLT on a Sunday then hosting the Bengals the following Thursday nite.

    Also gets a little crazy at the end with 3 games in a 12-day span... hosting BLT on MNF than at NYG and at NYJ.

    Christmas in NYC anyone? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Christmas in NYC anyone? 

    In Coronaville? I don't think so.??

  • Mid December Monday Night game vs Baltimore will be a tad nipply. 

  • Ravens with time to prepare (we should know Lamar by now but still). Week 1 maybe catch them off guard.  They will be seeing new Browns schemes. 

    Burrow second start in the Pound Like that too.

    Redskins at home. Yep. 
     

    great shot at 3-0. 

    Brutal stretch after the bye but three of those at homes.

    Tanking NY teams at the end.

    Beat the Steelers at home to seal a playoff spot. 

    this could be the most favorable schedule in a long time 

  • We are playing the Jags Week 12 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    We are playing the Jags Week 12 

    That's a dub. 

  • Ravens with time to prepare (we should know Lamar by now but still). Week 1 maybe catch them off guard.  They will be seeing new Browns schemes. 

    Burrow second start in the Pound Like that too.

    Redskins at home. Yep. 
     

    great shot at 3-0. 

    Brutal stretch after the bye but three of those at homes.

    Tanking NY teams at the end.

    Beat the Steelers at home to seal a playoff spot. 

    this could be the most favorable schedule in a long time 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Ravens with time to prepare (we should know Lamar by now but still). Week 1 maybe catch them off guard.  They will be seeing new Browns schemes. 

    Burrow second start in the Pound Like that too.

    Redskins at home. Yep. 
     

    great shot at 3-0. 

    Brutal stretch after the bye but three of those at homes.

    Tanking NY teams at the end.

    Beat the Steelers at home to seal a playoff spot. 

    this could be the most favorable schedule in a long time 

    Like they always say "on paper" is 50% wrong. But if this team has their sh-t just a little bit together, you see 10 wins, or more. 

  • So much for rumors like "all the AFC/NFC meetings will be in the 1st 4 weeks".

    Tough opening turnaround for us with BLT on a Sunday then hosting the Bengals the following Thursday nite.

    Also gets a little crazy at the end with 3 games in a 12-day span... hosting BLT on MNF than at NYG and at NYJ.

    @tour2ma said:

    So much for rumors like "all the AFC/NFC meetings will be in the 1st 4 weeks".

    Tough opening turnaround for us with BLT on a Sunday then hosting the Bengals the following Thursday nite.

    Also gets a little crazy at the end with 3 games in a 12-day span... hosting BLT on MNF than at NYG and at NYJ.

    Bengals will be a mess. W. No rookie QB wins vs. any semblance of a team. 

  • My theory is just go out and kick the Ravens ass opening day.  Why the hell not?