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  • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    One thousand names...

    One of a nearly 100 such possible pages...

    This page includes: 1st responders, WWII vets, law enforcement officers, Holocaust saviors, single mothers...

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      And Trumps horrendous 'leadership' during this crisis has made the loss much more than it should have been.

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          One thousand names...

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          This page includes: 1st responders, WWII vets, law enforcement officers, Holocaust saviors, single mothers...

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          @tour2ma said:

          One thousand names...

          One of a nearly 100 such possible pages...

          This page includes: 1st responders, WWII vets, law enforcement officers, Holocaust saviors, single mothers...

          Tour, it is a tragic, but we must also keep in mind that tragedies are often exploited for political gain; chaos is a ladder, after all.

          Case in point, the very NYT front page you mentioned has been called out for demonstrably adding non-COVID deaths to that list:

          "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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            GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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            Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

            Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

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              Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

              Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

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              @gorka said:

              Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

              Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

              Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

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                Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

                Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

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                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                @gorka said:

                Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. 

                 Don't be so literal just to chime in.  You know exactly what message being conveyed means.  If you were to lose your son, that would be an incalculable loss.  

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                    @gorka said:

                    Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

                    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

                    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

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                    @hoorta said:

                    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

                     
                    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020
                     

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                      @gorka said:

                      Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. 

                       Don't be so literal just to chime in.  You know exactly what message being conveyed means.  If you were to lose your son, that would be an incalculable loss.  

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                      GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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                      @tiamat63 said:

                       Don't be so literal just to chime in.  You know exactly what message being conveyed means.  If you were to lose your son, that would be an incalculable loss.  

                      Don't be so critical of word usage just to chime in. Yes I do know exactly what message is being conveyed, and so do you. Sensationalism as a tool to politicize.

                      Never have I heard of anyone who lost a loved one refer to their loss as "incalculable". Have you? That's sounds Retarded.

                      It's possible that due to the losses being large in numbers "incalculable" by the NYT is meant to reflect the effects of the losses...what these people could have contributed to society that is unmeasurable. So I may be wrong, but you definitely are.

                      Incalculable is still bunk anyway. As if 90% of these deaths were 30 yr. olds

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                        @hoorta said:

                        Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

                         
                        Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020
                         

                        Fast Facts | Fact Sheets | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC

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                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                        @vambo said:

                         
                        Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020
                         

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                        Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

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                          @gorka said:

                          Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

                          Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

                          Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

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                          @hoorta said:

                          Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

                          Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

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                            @canton-dawg said:

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                            Which one is Obama?

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                              @canton-dawg said:

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                              Which one is Obama?

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                              @gorka said:

                              Which one is Obama?

                              Both

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                                @hoorta said:

                                Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

                                Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

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                                @gorka said:

                                Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

                                Sure there was some hysteria, probably some over reaction- fear of the unknown maybe?  We'll see what happens soon enough with the country gradually reopening. About 500 deaths every day, and it's been consistent for the last week or two. How will it trend? But trying to say- well, it's not as bad as smoking deaths- give me a break. 

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                                  @vambo said:

                                   
                                  Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020
                                   

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                                  Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

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                                  @hoorta said:

                                  Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

                                  So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

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                                    @hoorta said:

                                    Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

                                    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

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                                    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

                                    But he can't blame Trump on those.

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                                      @hoorta said:

                                      Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

                                      So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

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                                      @gorka said:

                                      So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

                                      A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

                                      Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

                                      @vambo said:

                                      But he can't blame Trump on those.

                                      I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

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                                        @hoorta said:

                                        Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

                                         
                                        Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020
                                         

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                                        @vambo said:

                                         
                                        Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020
                                         

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                                        Wow. That is a lot. More than double the amount of COVID deaths per day. We are just approaching 100k COVID deaths.. Not sure if we will ever reach 480K.

                                        Depending on when this shit arrived, we're 5 or six month's into it, no?

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                                          @gorka said:

                                          So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

                                          A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

                                          Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

                                          @vambo said:

                                          But he can't blame Trump on those.

                                          I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

                                          Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

                                          I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

                                          Deflection??  Don't confuse deflection with putting things into perspective.

                                          What has been done to this country over a hysteria was a mistake by some and unforgivable to others. .

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