No Browns Today, So.... Whoyawatchin?

Tour2ma

And the Steelers eek one out...

@vagitron said:

Trap game. Steelers are playing like ass and Keith butler is calling a horrendous defensive game. Why they are in zone is beyond me. We are a far stronger man team than zone. The Steelers need to wake up or they are taking the L. We are missing Alualu in a major way.

You need a minute before we begin our "escape" debate?

Vagitron

@typicalbrowns50 said:

HOLY SHIT!

the Steelers always get breaks. On 4th and 10 they got a gift wrapped roughing the passer call. Unbelievable.

You touch a qb's face it's a penalty whether it's right or wrong that's IN the rule book. You can stop with the stupid fucking conspiracy theories. I see brady get those with people blowing air at him hard.

SdBacker80

Zane Gonzalez short on a 49 yard FG to send game to OT.

Phins 5-3. Need to keep them back and out of the playoff hunt

TypicalBrowns50

Lol Vag you get so mad at the truth

Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

And the Steelers eek one out...

You need a minute before we begin our "escape" debate?

Nah, butler called a horrid game running a soft zone for way to long. Dodged a bullet against a pretty bad team. Gutsy game by Gilbert but he had shit to lose.

Vagitron

@typicalbrowns50 said:

Lol Vag you get so mad at the truth

I'm not mad, I swear a lot. A LOT. I however don't really tolerate stupid shit even if it's behind brown colored glasses.

The league despite its overwhelming inconsistency with officiating is ALWAYS going to make that call. Ben almost never gets them so I really don't have the patience for it. Ben had his damn nose broken years ago, no flag and they changed the rules sometime after.

TypicalBrowns50

Steelers looked like garbage against a team that is garbage. Good sighting

Vagitron

@typicalbrowns50 said:

Steelers looked like garbage against a team that is garbage. Good sighting

Yep, terrible game. However good teams find a way to win. We are 8-0. What's your record again?

Tour2ma

The roughing call was "by the book".

***sigh**

Such is the state of our game.

Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

The roughing call was "by the book".

***sigh**

Such is the state of our game.

Yep, it was pretty weak but that's a flag everytime. The NFL needs full time refs and certain things should be determined via their discretion.

CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

Dolphins and Raiders are both good. And then there is the Colts. It will be an interesting wildcard race.

The Gipper

@unsympathetic said:

I love Scotch. Scotchy scotch scotch. Here it goes down, down into my belly.

Don't act like you're not impressed!

Broiling a few pounds of steak tips for the week's lunches.. nothing like getting a buzz on while flipping steak.

I'm impressed.

Icecube

@canton-mike said:

I went fishin' with a buddy on 2 ponds he recently got permission to fish. I got the only fish...5 undersized bluegill. I shoulda stayed home drinking beer & watching football! Oh well, at least I didn't miss a Browns' game & I DID get outside on a beautiful day.

Mike

Bluegill? LOL. I remember those. The pond down my street was full of them.

Icecube

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Dolphins and Raiders are both good. And then there is the Colts. It will be an interesting wildcard race.

Boy, Pitt was getting the piss beat out of them. Ben took a hellacious shot. Raiders ain't no joke. They aren't rock solid but they can beat anyone.

Icecube

@vagitron said:

Yep, it was pretty weak but that's a flag everytime. The NFL needs full time refs and certain things should be determined via their discretion.

The hand hit the head, didn't cause any impact. It's just how it is now, you touch QB's face mask, flag.

Tour2ma

@vagitron said:

Yep, it was pretty weak but that's a flag everytime. The NFL needs full time refs and certain things should be determined via their discretion.

Cool we agree...

Now let's talk about the Vander Esch "retaliation" that never landed and Smith's ticky-tac, illegal contact.

Tour2ma

As for SNF...

Talk about a beat-down...

Gorka

@vagitron said:

Yep, terrible game. However good teams find a way to win. We are 8-0. What's your record again?

Steelers manhandled up front two weeks in a row...couldn't run the ball, couldn't stop the run.

jiggins7919

@gorka said:

Steelers manhandled up front two weeks in a row...couldn't run the ball, couldn't stop the run.

I don't even see how that's possible. Steelers looked so completely dominant on both sides of the LoS....it was crazy. Of course, their defensive pressure essentially won the game for them, which is going to be the primary difference between our teams. They can rely on their defense to win them some games. If our defense HAS to make a stop...well...we tried. Lol.

The Gipper

@jiggins7919 said:

I don't even see how that's possible. Steelers looked so completely dominant on both sides of the LoS....it was crazy. Of course, their defensive pressure essentially won the game for them, which is going to be the primary difference between our teams. They can rely on their defense to win them some games. If our defense HAS to make a stop...well...we tried. Lol.

Well, I think it is fair to say that the Steelers invested heavily into LB corps. At least 3 First round picks there. The Browns? Quite the opposite. Takitaki taken in round 3 is their highest pick playing. (Wilson round 5).

Only first round picks on Browns defense are Garrett and Ward.

So, you say, we must have gone with offense with all our first rounders? Well, no. The only first round picks starting of offense are Mayfield and Wills. Njoku, round one backup. (Beckham traded for 2 first rounders...including Peppers)

In addition to the OBJ trade, this is the legacy of having so many busts chosen in round one.