Browns vs. Jaguars Data Points
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In doing the research for this, I am finding that the Jags and Browns have almost -0- historical connections:
1. Jaguars do lead all time series 12 wins to 5.
2. The Browns and Jags have Never shared a Head coach, a leading passer/runner/receiver/draft pick...have never met in the playoffs or anything. Of the listed top 100 players in Jags history, only one that I could tell had spent time with the Browns: Receiver Keenan McCardell.
3. One way the Jags had/have affected the Browns is that when the Jags and Panthers joined the league, they had almost immediate success, go to and winning playoff games. The NFL did NOT want that same thing to occur with the new "expansion" teams that were subsequently admitted to the league. Particularly the "Expansion" Browns. They did just about everything they could to disallow the quick success the Jags had from happening with the Browns....giving us massive disadvantages in terms of players made available, etc.
4. When the Jags joined the league, they had an original logo that featured a charging Jaguar. However, Ford Motor Co., owner of the Jaguar automobile objected to it because of its similarity to that auto co.'s logo. They threatened to sue, but a deal was brokered wherein that was avoided. Part of the deal was to make the Jaguar the official car of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But they still dropped that original logo.
5. However, Ironically......the Jaguars mascot is name Jaxon de Ville. Essentially using a name belonging to the rival Cadillac auto company.
6. TIAA Stadium....the current stupid corporate name of the Jags stadium, is actually the old Gator Bowl renovated.
And that is it. Like I said.....nothing much going on between these two teams.....except a game Sunday.
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Was it against Jacksonville that Quincy Morgan caught a game-winning Hail Mary?
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Zombo said:
Bottlegate!
I threw bottles!
Z
But you did not throw the deputy. Self defense!
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In doing the research for this, I am finding that the Jags and Browns have almost -0- historical connections:
1. Jaguars do lead all time series 12 wins to 5.
2. The Browns and Jags have Never shared a Head coach, a leading passer/runner/receiver/draft pick...have never met in the playoffs or anything. Of the listed top 100 players in Jags history, only one that I could tell had spent time with the Browns: Receiver Keenan McCardell.
3. One way the Jags had/have affected the Browns is that when the Jags and Panthers joined the league, they had almost immediate success, go to and winning playoff games. The NFL did NOT want that same thing to occur with the new "expansion" teams that were subsequently admitted to the league. Particularly the "Expansion" Browns. They did just about everything they could to disallow the quick success the Jags had from happening with the Browns....giving us massive disadvantages in terms of players made available, etc.
4. When the Jags joined the league, they had an original logo that featured a charging Jaguar. However, Ford Motor Co., owner of the Jaguar automobile objected to it because of its similarity to that auto co.'s logo. They threatened to sue, but a deal was brokered wherein that was avoided. Part of the deal was to make the Jaguar the official car of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But they still dropped that original logo.
5. However, Ironically......the Jaguars mascot is name Jaxon de Ville. Essentially using a name belonging to the rival Cadillac auto company.
6. TIAA Stadium....the current stupid corporate name of the Jags stadium, is actually the old Gator Bowl renovated.
And that is it. Like I said.....nothing much going on between these two teams.....except a game Sunday.
In doing the research for this, I am finding that the Jags and Browns have almost -0- historical connections:
1. Jaguars do lead all time series 12 wins to 5.
2. The Browns and Jags have Never shared a Head coach, a leading passer/runner/receiver/draft pick...have never met in the playoffs or anything. Of the listed top 100 players in Jags history, only one that I could tell had spent time with the Browns: Receiver Keenan McCardell.
3. One way the Jags had/have affected the Browns is that when the Jags and Panthers joined the league, they had almost immediate success, go to and winning playoff games. The NFL did NOT want that same thing to occur with the new "expansion" teams that were subsequently admitted to the league. Particularly the "Expansion" Browns. They did just about everything they could to disallow the quick success the Jags had from happening with the Browns....giving us massive disadvantages in terms of players made available, etc.
4. When the Jags joined the league, they had an original logo that featured a charging Jaguar. However, Ford Motor Co., owner of the Jaguar automobile objected to it because of its similarity to that auto co.'s logo. They threatened to sue, but a deal was brokered wherein that was avoided. Part of the deal was to make the Jaguar the official car of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But they still dropped that original logo.
5. However, Ironically......the Jaguars mascot is name Jaxon de Ville. Essentially using a name belonging to the rival Cadillac auto company.
6. TIAA Stadium....the current stupid corporate name of the Jags stadium, is actually the old Gator Bowl renovated.
And that is it. Like I said.....nothing much going on between these two teams.....except a game Sunday.
And you forgot Joe Schobert.... Who was a Brown last season... had 13 tackles yesterday incidently... Is their Lber
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In doing the research for this, I am finding that the Jags and Browns have almost -0- historical connections:
1. Jaguars do lead all time series 12 wins to 5.
2. The Browns and Jags have Never shared a Head coach, a leading passer/runner/receiver/draft pick...have never met in the playoffs or anything. Of the listed top 100 players in Jags history, only one that I could tell had spent time with the Browns: Receiver Keenan McCardell.
3. One way the Jags had/have affected the Browns is that when the Jags and Panthers joined the league, they had almost immediate success, go to and winning playoff games. The NFL did NOT want that same thing to occur with the new "expansion" teams that were subsequently admitted to the league. Particularly the "Expansion" Browns. They did just about everything they could to disallow the quick success the Jags had from happening with the Browns....giving us massive disadvantages in terms of players made available, etc.
4. When the Jags joined the league, they had an original logo that featured a charging Jaguar. However, Ford Motor Co., owner of the Jaguar automobile objected to it because of its similarity to that auto co.'s logo. They threatened to sue, but a deal was brokered wherein that was avoided. Part of the deal was to make the Jaguar the official car of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But they still dropped that original logo.
5. However, Ironically......the Jaguars mascot is name Jaxon de Ville. Essentially using a name belonging to the rival Cadillac auto company.
6. TIAA Stadium....the current stupid corporate name of the Jags stadium, is actually the old Gator Bowl renovated.
And that is it. Like I said.....nothing much going on between these two teams.....except a game Sunday.
And you forgot Joe Schobert.... Who was a Brown last season... had 13 tackles yesterday incidently... Is their Lber
And you forgot Joe Schobert.... Who was a Brown last season... had 13 tackles yesterday incidently... Is their Lber
Well.....since he has only played 10 games with them, he is not yet on their list of Top players in franchise history. But, eventually, maybe.
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Well.....since he has only played 10 games with them, he is not yet on their list of Top players in franchise history. But, eventually, maybe.
Concur!
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Seems like we never beat this team and we NEVER seem to play well down there. Time for that to change!
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Seems like we never beat this team and we NEVER seem to play well down there. Time for that to change!
Seems like we never beat this team and we NEVER seem to play well down there. Time for that to change!
As long as Paul McQuistan's not starting at RG... I like our chances.
As for Schobert in JAX... he ain't no Paul Posluszny.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Seems like we never beat this team and we NEVER seem to play well down there. Time for that to change!
As long as Paul McQuistan's not starting at RG... I like our chances.
As for Schobert in JAX... he ain't no Paul Posluszny.
As for Schobert in JAX... he ain't no Paul Posluszny.
I still miss him....as does our defense. We'd be really different on D with him.
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Zombo said:
Yes, I have sat in that stadium in Jacksonville and been disappointed many times.
Remember, Jacksonville was in the AFC Central from 1995-2001.
I think the Browns will be locked in this week, though ... But you always have to watch out for the wounded animal.
Zombo
I was there for the last game before leaving for Baltimore. We lost on a terrible pass interference call at the last second. Lol. It was poetic.
However, I was ALSO there for the Quincy Morgan Hail Mary! That shit was one of the best sporting experiences in my life. Punches were thrown, smack was talked, cops were involved, and we ran down the ramps of the stadium like we won the championship.
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Denzel Ward pulled a calf muscle, with an MRI pending.
His status for Sunday’s game is uncertain.
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Denzel Ward pulled a calf muscle, with an MRI pending.
His status for Sunday’s game is uncertain.
Denzel Ward pulled a calf muscle, with an MRI pending.
His status for Sunday’s game is uncertain.
When the hell did that happen?
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Denzel Ward pulled a calf muscle, with an MRI pending.
His status for Sunday’s game is uncertain.
When the hell did that happen?
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I saw it on the sports report on channel 8 news out of Cleveland this morning.
They had a graphic up on the screen about it, but unfortunately my boss was on the phone at that time (TV was muted).
Ward does not want to lose the race to see which highly drafted CB is out the most games this year, himself or Greedy.?
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...was listening to The Fan during the day at work. For a long time it sounded like Ward's injury was quite serious. I think his tweet this morning was a prayer of some sort. Fortunate to hear that he'll be back. It took Teller multiple weeks to come back from his calf injury.
We're going to suffer mightily without Ward & Myles. Hopefully we can slip out of florida with a win Sunday, Tenn I had as a loss on my schedule but I was hoping that we could be at full strength for the Ravens game...I'd be surprised if Ward is back by then.
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I still miss him....as does our defense. We'd be really different on D with him.
Prepare for a shock... I disagree.
He was never a tone-setting type MLB. I mean can you recall a single hit he made that prompted you to say, "Whoa"? I can't...
Would we be better? Yes... but not demonstrably different.
But rest easy... he might be back down the road as his (IMO) oversized contract is back-loaded going from a very friendly $5.4mm this season to $9.9 next to $13.6 in 2014 with the bulk of the back-end non-guaranteed.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I still miss him....as does our defense. We'd be really different on D with him.
Prepare for a shock... I disagree.
He was never a tone-setting type MLB. I mean can you recall a single hit he made that prompted you to say, "Whoa"? I can't...
Would we be better? Yes... but not demonstrably different.
But rest easy... he might be back down the road as his (IMO) oversized contract is back-loaded going from a very friendly $5.4mm this season to $9.9 next to $13.6 in 2014 with the bulk of the back-end non-guaranteed.
He was never a tone-setting type MLB. I mean can you recall a single hit he made that prompted you to say, "Whoa"? I can't..
I kind of agree with you there. Joe was never a Ray Lewis or Kuechly guy (God I wanted him so badly), but he was a guy who made plays, ya know? Interceptions, fumble recoveries, sacks, or whatever. He was around the ball ALWAYS, and he could cover. That being said, Schobert hasn't really played all that well this season I don't think (I could be wrong).
In end, it's a good thing we didn't sign him because of the covid budget crunch next year, so we're still in good shape. We've got to extend Ward, Teller, Chubb, and probably others.
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The thing is, the Browns, in their entire history have not really ever had that major stud at MLB. In checking, I see that Mike Johnson went to two Pro Bowls and is about the best that we have had in my recollection. Eddie Johnson is an MLB that we have fond memories of. . And Pepper Johnson went to one. Johnson, Johnson, and Johnson. Schobert did make the PB in 2017. Walt Michaels went to a number of PBs in the 50s, but he alternated from the middle to the outside...and that was before my time so I never really saw him play to know if he really was that stud.
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I always wondered if Schobert would have been better cast at the weakside LB in the 4-3, instead of the MLB position.
He was smart player who was good against the pass, but definitely not Butkus against the run.
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50% chance of rain now. God I'm so sick of bad weather. Come on weather gods! ?
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