No more Indians
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Letter from Larry Dolan
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
As long as they are still called Cleveland
True. And playing in Cleveland, Ohio in a still pretty nice stadium for baseball. No changes until at least 2022, still time to get all of your Indians stuff.
The Cleveland Baseball Club ? Team ?
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Letter from Larry Dolan
FUCK YOU DOH' LAN!
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FUCK YOU DOH' LAN!
Well...it seems like they are getting rid of any decent players they had. So, this name reboot may go like the Browns reboot from 1999....in other words, we would be in for a long spell of constant losing.
Fair to say?
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Well...it seems like they are getting rid of any decent players they had. So, this name reboot may go like the Browns reboot from 1999....in other words, we would be in for a long spell of constant losing.
Fair to say?
Yeah, I don't know... They have been a cluster fuck of sorts since Jacobs sold the team.. I know they made the post season a couple of times and made a trip to the series in 16... But like always... They under achieve.... Doh'lan has 0 business owning a franchise.. His ineptness is infuriating!
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Well...it seems like they are getting rid of any decent players they had. So, this name reboot may go like the Browns reboot from 1999....in other words, we would be in for a long spell of constant losing.
Fair to say?
Yeah, I don't know... They have been a cluster fuck of sorts since Jacobs sold the team.. I know they made the post season a couple of times and made a trip to the series in 16... But like always... They under achieve.... Doh'lan has 0 business owning a franchise.. His ineptness is infuriating!
Yeah, I don't know... They have been a cluster fuck of sorts since Jacobs sold the team.. I know they made the post season a couple of times and made a trip to the series in 16... But like always... They under achieve.... Doh'lan has 0 business owning a franchise.. His ineptness is infuriating!
I always thought the ownership is all mixed up in this town-Haslem was way in over his head, but perhaps after several business models he may have gotten it right. Dolan buys into MLB but he needs the NFL or NBA salary cap structure to guide him. Gilbert has always seemed willing to spend, and perhaps the MLB would be better for him in that regard.
Like I've heard elsewhere, the MLB needs a "salary floor" not a salary cap. Owners should have to meet some kind of payroll minimum to operate. Presently, the Indians payroll ($36.5 million) is on par to Mike Trout's one year salary ($35 million).
I'm not one to begrudge a person's wealth, but why buy a baseball team if you aren't willing to pay consistently to operate it? All owners should get a Covid pass, but this salary dump of star players is getting old. The Tribe's offense will be lucky to average 4 runs a game this season, it's a AAA type lineup now.
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This will not be the first time this team changed names:
Also played as Cleveland Naps, Cleveland Bronchos and Cleveland Blues
1915 Cleveland Indians AL 154 57 95 2 .375 .402 7th of 8 44.5 539 670 159,285 24.6 24.5 40 15 G.Morton (6.4) J.Birmingham (12-16) and L.Fohl (45-79) 1914 Cleveland Naps AL 157 51 102 4 .333 .376 8th of 8 48.5 538 709 185,997 26.6 24.9 47 19 S.Jackson (4.6) J.Birmingham (51-102) 1913 Cleveland Naps AL 155 86 66 3 .566 .576 3rd of 8 9.5 633 536 541,000 27.0 26.7 39 13 S.Jackson (7.6) J.Birmingham (86-66) 1912 Cleveland Naps AL 155 75 78 2 .490 .497 5th of 8 30.5 677 681 336,844 26.4 24.0 47 16 S.Jackson (9.5) H.Davis (54-71) and J.Birmingham (21-7) 1911 Cleveland Naps AL 156 80 73 3 .523 .488 3rd of 8 22.0 693 712 406,296 27.0 24.8 38 16 S.Jackson (9.2) D.McGuire (6-11) and G.Stovall (74-62) 1910 Cleveland Naps AL 161 71 81 9 .467 .418 5th of 8 32.0 548 657 293,456 28.2 26.6 44 14 N.Lajoie (9.8) D.McGuire (71-81) 1909 Cleveland Naps AL 155 71 82 2 .464 .465 6th of 8 27.5 493 532 354,627 28.1 30.5 37 15 N.Lajoie (6.5) N.Lajoie (57-57) and D.McGuire (14-25) 1908 Cleveland Naps AL 157 90 64 3 .584 .597 2nd of 8 0.5 569 459 422,262 28.2 27.2 33 13 A.Joss (8.8) N.Lajoie (90-64) 1907 Cleveland Naps AL 158 85 67 6 .559 .505 4th of 8 8.0 531 525 382,046 27.5 26.8 26 9 N.Lajoie (7.6) N.Lajoie (85-67) 1906 Cleveland Naps AL 157 89 64 4 .582 .643 3rd of 8 5.0 663 481 325,733 28.2 28.0 25 8 N.Lajoie (10.0) N.Lajoie (89-64) 1905 Cleveland Naps AL 155 76 78 1 .494 .482 5th of 8 19.0 564 587 316,306 27.1 27.3 27 9 A.Joss (6.2) N.Lajoie (56-57) and B.Bradley (20-21) 1904 Cleveland Naps AL 154 86 65 3 .570 .632 4th of 8 7.5 647 482 264,749 27.3 28.0 24 7 N.Lajoie (8.6) B.Armour (86-65) 1903 Cleveland Naps AL 140 77 63 0 .550 .545 3rd of 8 15.0 639 579 311,280 27.3 26.1 28 13 N.Lajoie (8.0) B.Armour (77-63) 1902 Cleveland Bronchos AL 137 69 67 1 .507 .513 5th of 8 14.0 686 667 275,395 27.2 24.9 34 17 B.Bradley (6.7) B.Armour (69-67) 1901 Cleveland Blues AL 138 54 82 2 .397 .400 7th of 8 29.0 666 831 131,380 28.4 26.2 35 15 E.Moore (4.4) J.McAleer (54-82 So. What new name?
NOT Spiders. NOT one of these others above.
Cleveland Rocks?
Cleveland Rolls?
Cleveland United?
Cleveland Crocodiles?
Cleveland Derechos?
Cleveland Caballeros?
This will not be the first time this team changed names:
Also played as Cleveland Naps, Cleveland Bronchos and Cleveland Blues
1915 Cleveland Indians AL 154 57 95 2 .375 .402 7th of 8 44.5 539 670 159,285 24.6 24.5 40 15 G.Morton (6.4) J.Birmingham (12-16) and L.Fohl (45-79) 1914 Cleveland Naps AL 157 51 102 4 .333 .376 8th of 8 48.5 538 709 185,997 26.6 24.9 47 19 S.Jackson (4.6) J.Birmingham (51-102) 1913 Cleveland Naps AL 155 86 66 3 .566 .576 3rd of 8 9.5 633 536 541,000 27.0 26.7 39 13 S.Jackson (7.6) J.Birmingham (86-66) 1912 Cleveland Naps AL 155 75 78 2 .490 .497 5th of 8 30.5 677 681 336,844 26.4 24.0 47 16 S.Jackson (9.5) H.Davis (54-71) and J.Birmingham (21-7) 1911 Cleveland Naps AL 156 80 73 3 .523 .488 3rd of 8 22.0 693 712 406,296 27.0 24.8 38 16 S.Jackson (9.2) D.McGuire (6-11) and G.Stovall (74-62) 1910 Cleveland Naps AL 161 71 81 9 .467 .418 5th of 8 32.0 548 657 293,456 28.2 26.6 44 14 N.Lajoie (9.8) D.McGuire (71-81) 1909 Cleveland Naps AL 155 71 82 2 .464 .465 6th of 8 27.5 493 532 354,627 28.1 30.5 37 15 N.Lajoie (6.5) N.Lajoie (57-57) and D.McGuire (14-25) 1908 Cleveland Naps AL 157 90 64 3 .584 .597 2nd of 8 0.5 569 459 422,262 28.2 27.2 33 13 A.Joss (8.8) N.Lajoie (90-64) 1907 Cleveland Naps AL 158 85 67 6 .559 .505 4th of 8 8.0 531 525 382,046 27.5 26.8 26 9 N.Lajoie (7.6) N.Lajoie (85-67) 1906 Cleveland Naps AL 157 89 64 4 .582 .643 3rd of 8 5.0 663 481 325,733 28.2 28.0 25 8 N.Lajoie (10.0) N.Lajoie (89-64) 1905 Cleveland Naps AL 155 76 78 1 .494 .482 5th of 8 19.0 564 587 316,306 27.1 27.3 27 9 A.Joss (6.2) N.Lajoie (56-57) and B.Bradley (20-21) 1904 Cleveland Naps AL 154 86 65 3 .570 .632 4th of 8 7.5 647 482 264,749 27.3 28.0 24 7 N.Lajoie (8.6) B.Armour (86-65) 1903 Cleveland Naps AL 140 77 63 0 .550 .545 3rd of 8 15.0 639 579 311,280 27.3 26.1 28 13 N.Lajoie (8.0) B.Armour (77-63) 1902 Cleveland Bronchos AL 137 69 67 1 .507 .513 5th of 8 14.0 686 667 275,395 27.2 24.9 34 17 B.Bradley (6.7) B.Armour (69-67) 1901 Cleveland Blues AL 138 54 82 2 .397 .400 7th of 8 29.0 666 831 131,380 28.4 26.2 35 15 E.Moore (4.4) J.McAleer (54-82 So. What new name?
NOT Spiders. NOT one of these others above.
Cleveland Rocks?
Cleveland Rolls?
Cleveland United?
Cleveland Crocodiles?
Cleveland Derechos?
Cleveland Caballeros?
I wonder what naps meant?
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This will not be the first time this team changed names:
Also played as Cleveland Naps, Cleveland Bronchos and Cleveland Blues
1915 Cleveland Indians AL 154 57 95 2 .375 .402 7th of 8 44.5 539 670 159,285 24.6 24.5 40 15 G.Morton (6.4) J.Birmingham (12-16) and L.Fohl (45-79) 1914 Cleveland Naps AL 157 51 102 4 .333 .376 8th of 8 48.5 538 709 185,997 26.6 24.9 47 19 S.Jackson (4.6) J.Birmingham (51-102) 1913 Cleveland Naps AL 155 86 66 3 .566 .576 3rd of 8 9.5 633 536 541,000 27.0 26.7 39 13 S.Jackson (7.6) J.Birmingham (86-66) 1912 Cleveland Naps AL 155 75 78 2 .490 .497 5th of 8 30.5 677 681 336,844 26.4 24.0 47 16 S.Jackson (9.5) H.Davis (54-71) and J.Birmingham (21-7) 1911 Cleveland Naps AL 156 80 73 3 .523 .488 3rd of 8 22.0 693 712 406,296 27.0 24.8 38 16 S.Jackson (9.2) D.McGuire (6-11) and G.Stovall (74-62) 1910 Cleveland Naps AL 161 71 81 9 .467 .418 5th of 8 32.0 548 657 293,456 28.2 26.6 44 14 N.Lajoie (9.8) D.McGuire (71-81) 1909 Cleveland Naps AL 155 71 82 2 .464 .465 6th of 8 27.5 493 532 354,627 28.1 30.5 37 15 N.Lajoie (6.5) N.Lajoie (57-57) and D.McGuire (14-25) 1908 Cleveland Naps AL 157 90 64 3 .584 .597 2nd of 8 0.5 569 459 422,262 28.2 27.2 33 13 A.Joss (8.8) N.Lajoie (90-64) 1907 Cleveland Naps AL 158 85 67 6 .559 .505 4th of 8 8.0 531 525 382,046 27.5 26.8 26 9 N.Lajoie (7.6) N.Lajoie (85-67) 1906 Cleveland Naps AL 157 89 64 4 .582 .643 3rd of 8 5.0 663 481 325,733 28.2 28.0 25 8 N.Lajoie (10.0) N.Lajoie (89-64) 1905 Cleveland Naps AL 155 76 78 1 .494 .482 5th of 8 19.0 564 587 316,306 27.1 27.3 27 9 A.Joss (6.2) N.Lajoie (56-57) and B.Bradley (20-21) 1904 Cleveland Naps AL 154 86 65 3 .570 .632 4th of 8 7.5 647 482 264,749 27.3 28.0 24 7 N.Lajoie (8.6) B.Armour (86-65) 1903 Cleveland Naps AL 140 77 63 0 .550 .545 3rd of 8 15.0 639 579 311,280 27.3 26.1 28 13 N.Lajoie (8.0) B.Armour (77-63) 1902 Cleveland Bronchos AL 137 69 67 1 .507 .513 5th of 8 14.0 686 667 275,395 27.2 24.9 34 17 B.Bradley (6.7) B.Armour (69-67) 1901 Cleveland Blues AL 138 54 82 2 .397 .400 7th of 8 29.0 666 831 131,380 28.4 26.2 35 15 E.Moore (4.4) J.McAleer (54-82 So. What new name?
NOT Spiders. NOT one of these others above.
Cleveland Rocks?
Cleveland Rolls?
Cleveland United?
Cleveland Crocodiles?
Cleveland Derechos?
Cleveland Caballeros?
I wonder what naps meant?
I wonder what naps meant?
The name Naps was given to the team in "honor" of their best player at the time: Napoleon Lajoie
From Encyclopedia of Cleveland History:
The CLEVELAND INDIANS baseball team, a charter member of the American League, founded in 1901, was originally named the Blues, then the Bronchos, and from 1903-11 was known as the Naps, in honor of player-manager NAPOLEON LAJOIE.
I wonder why they called them the Bronchos...with a ch. Or why they bothered to change to a different name each of their first 3 seasons.
Maybe they should just start that up again: give the team a whole new name every year. Their marketing department would love it because they could sell all new paraphenalia every year.
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Meh. Lot's of good times AND heartache. It's just a name.
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How many times at a chance at a World Series title and came up short? Maybe a fresh start is a good thing.
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They would call that racist because it portrays the white man as superior.
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They would call that racist because it portrays the white man as superior.
They would call that racist because it portrays the white man as superior.
You should know.
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Great way to alienate what's left of your fan base before moving the team.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Now Dolan is saying it might not happen until 2023
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Well I say everyone should wear something native inspired opening day and see if ASS HAT Doh'lan puts his money where his mouth is.. I'll bet my bottom dollar he wont keep anyone out.. I'm sure he would hate to lose money on concession sales... What an asshole he is...
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