No more Indians

[ATOM]

call em the Browns that will confuse the shit out of some people

[nickers]

@browns149 said:

Letter from Larry Dolan

https://www.mlb.com/indians/fans/cleteamname?partnerId=zh-20201214-266499-CLE&qid=18&bt_ee=HjafnUnuaNUEo2SIRwApCSZXBTJb3VZ8NpfjyvzoboNLHzaPkV8OxH6UP1LGbvjF&bt_ts=1607980265923

FUCK YOU DOH' LAN!

[The Gipper]

@nickers said:

FUCK YOU DOH' LAN!

Well...it seems like they are getting rid of any decent players they had.  So, this name reboot may go like the Browns reboot from 1999....in other words, we would be in for a long spell of constant losing. 

Fair to say? 

[nickers]

@the-gipper said:

Well...it seems like they are getting rid of any decent players they had.  So, this name reboot may go like the Browns reboot from 1999....in other words, we would be in for a long spell of constant losing. 

Fair to say? 

Yeah, I don't know... They have been a cluster fuck of sorts since Jacobs sold the team.. I know they made the post season a couple of times and made a trip to the series in 16... But like always... They under achieve.... Doh'lan has 0 business owning a franchise.. His ineptness is infuriating!

[Bob806]

@nickers said:

Yeah, I don't know... They have been a cluster fuck of sorts since Jacobs sold the team.. I know they made the post season a couple of times and made a trip to the series in 16... But like always... They under achieve.... Doh'lan has 0 business owning a franchise.. His ineptness is infuriating!

I always thought the ownership is all mixed up in this town-Haslem was way in over his head, but perhaps after several business models he may have gotten it right. Dolan buys into MLB but he needs the NFL or NBA salary cap structure to guide him. Gilbert has always seemed willing to spend, and perhaps the MLB would be better for him in that regard. 

Like I've heard elsewhere, the MLB needs a "salary floor" not a salary cap. Owners should have to meet some kind of payroll minimum to operate. Presently, the Indians payroll ($36.5 million) is on par to Mike Trout's one year salary ($35 million). 

I'm not one to begrudge a person's wealth, but why buy a baseball team if you aren't willing to pay consistently to operate it? All owners should get a Covid pass, but this salary dump of star players is getting old. The Tribe's offense will be lucky to average 4 runs a game this season, it's a AAA type lineup now.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@the-gipper said:

This will not be the first time this team changed names:

 Also played as Cleveland Naps, Cleveland Bronchos and Cleveland Blues

1915	Cleveland Indians	AL	154	57	95	2	.375	.402	7th of 8	44.5		539	670	159,285	24.6	24.5	40	15	G.Morton (6.4)	J.Birmingham (12-16) and L.Fohl (45-79)
1914	Cleveland Naps	AL	157	51	102	4	.333	.376	8th of 8	48.5		538	709	185,997	26.6	24.9	47	19	S.Jackson (4.6)	J.Birmingham (51-102)
1913	Cleveland Naps	AL	155	86	66	3	.566	.576	3rd of 8	9.5		633	536	541,000	27.0	26.7	39	13	S.Jackson (7.6)	J.Birmingham (86-66)
1912	Cleveland Naps	AL	155	75	78	2	.490	.497	5th of 8	30.5		677	681	336,844	26.4	24.0	47	16	S.Jackson (9.5)	H.Davis (54-71) and J.Birmingham (21-7)
1911	Cleveland Naps	AL	156	80	73	3	.523	.488	3rd of 8	22.0		693	712	406,296	27.0	24.8	38	16	S.Jackson (9.2)	D.McGuire (6-11) and G.Stovall (74-62)
1910	Cleveland Naps	AL	161	71	81	9	.467	.418	5th of 8	32.0		548	657	293,456	28.2	26.6	44	14	N.Lajoie (9.8)	D.McGuire (71-81)
1909	Cleveland Naps	AL	155	71	82	2	.464	.465	6th of 8	27.5		493	532	354,627	28.1	30.5	37	15	N.Lajoie (6.5)	N.Lajoie (57-57) and D.McGuire (14-25)
1908	Cleveland Naps	AL	157	90	64	3	.584	.597	2nd of 8	0.5		569	459	422,262	28.2	27.2	33	13	A.Joss (8.8)	N.Lajoie (90-64)
1907	Cleveland Naps	AL	158	85	67	6	.559	.505	4th of 8	8.0		531	525	382,046	27.5	26.8	26	9	N.Lajoie (7.6)	N.Lajoie (85-67)
1906	Cleveland Naps	AL	157	89	64	4	.582	.643	3rd of 8	5.0		663	481	325,733	28.2	28.0	25	8	N.Lajoie (10.0)	N.Lajoie (89-64)
1905	Cleveland Naps	AL	155	76	78	1	.494	.482	5th of 8	19.0		564	587	316,306	27.1	27.3	27	9	A.Joss (6.2)	N.Lajoie (56-57) and B.Bradley (20-21)
1904	Cleveland Naps	AL	154	86	65	3	.570	.632	4th of 8	7.5		647	482	264,749	27.3	28.0	24	7	N.Lajoie (8.6)	B.Armour (86-65)
1903	Cleveland Naps	AL	140	77	63	0	.550	.545	3rd of 8	15.0		639	579	311,280	27.3	26.1	28	13	N.Lajoie (8.0)	B.Armour (77-63)
1902	Cleveland Bronchos	AL	137	69	67	1	.507	.513	5th of 8	14.0		686	667	275,395	27.2	24.9	34	17	B.Bradley (6.7)	B.Armour (69-67)
1901	Cleveland Blues	AL	138	54	82	2	.397	.400	7th of 8	29.0		666	831	131,380	28.4	26.2	35	15	E.Moore (4.4)	J.McAleer (54-82

So.  What new name?

NOT Spiders. NOT one of these others above.

Cleveland Rocks?

Cleveland Rolls?

Cleveland United?

Cleveland Crocodiles?

Cleveland Derechos?

Cleveland Caballeros?

I wonder what naps meant?

[The Gipper]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I wonder what naps meant?

The name Naps was given to the team in "honor" of their best player at the time:   Napoleon  Lajoie

From Encyclopedia of Cleveland History:

The CLEVELAND INDIANS baseball team, a charter member of the American League, founded in 1901, was originally named the Blues, then the Bronchos, and from 1903-11 was known as the Naps, in honor of player-manager NAPOLEON LAJOIE.

I wonder why they called them the Bronchos...with a ch.   Or why they bothered to change to a different name each of their first 3 seasons. 

Maybe they should just start that up again:  give the team a whole new name every year.   Their marketing department would love it because they could sell all new paraphenalia every year. 

[ATOM]

@neo said:

Meh. Lot's of good times AND heartache. It's just a name. 

Edit

How many times at a chance at a World Series title and came up short? Maybe a fresh start is a good thing.

so would you be cool if they changed the name the browns

[Axe]

[DieHardBrownsFan]

They would call that racist because it portrays the white man as superior.

[The Gipper]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

They would call that racist because it portrays the white man as superior.

You should know. 

[Westside Steve]

Great way to alienate what's left of your fan base before moving the team.

WSS 

[Browns149]

Now Dolan is saying it might not happen until 2023

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/tribe/2021/03/paul-dolan-will-know-by-midyear-if-cleveland-indians-can-change-name-for-2022-season.html%3foutputType=amp

[nickers]

Well I say everyone should wear something native inspired opening day and see if ASS HAT Doh'lan puts his money where his mouth is.. I'll bet my bottom dollar he wont keep anyone out.. I'm sure he would hate to lose money on concession sales... What an asshole he is...

[Vambo]

https://twitter.com/Indians/status/1418565355472101378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1418565355472101378%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.foxnews.com/sports/cleveland-indians-new-name-guardians

[nickers]

@vambo said:

https://twitter.com/Indians/status/1418565355472101378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1418565355472101378%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.foxnews.com/sports/cleveland-indians-new-name-guardians

Fuck that child molester Tom Hanks..

[nickers]

AND FUCK THE GUARDIANS!

[Browns149]

Always be Indians to me

[Canton Mike]

@westside-steve said:

Great way to alienate what's left of your fan base before moving the team.

WSS 

Agreed. Move 'em larry boy...who gives a damn? What effin' city will pay for THAT name?

Mike

[mjp28]

Guardians are you kidding me !   Ugh.  I could think of 10 better in 10 seconds.

Bad move.