Go Sign Mo Hurst
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@tiamat63 never mind, found your original and most recent thoughts
Going to answer your post several ways.
- Would I Take Mo over Sheldon Day? Yes
- Would I sign him just to have him? No. Cost is a real question here, but he sure wouldn't be expensive.
- What is happening with Richardson? Restructure and Mo likely becomes a pipe dream. Release and a combination of Mo + a mid round target (my early name is Alim McNeil) and I feel you can really get some quality snaps and scheme flexibility with redundancy from those two. Then Malik Jackson becomes the elder statesman on the IDL with that playoff veteran saavy.
- Would MH be our best interior pass rusher not named Clowney or Myles in subpackates? Yes
The answer rooted in true realism is entirely dependent upon what transpires with Sheldon Richardson. Mo is a fine player who could be a breakout candidate IMHO. But health permitting, might not get that shake.
And going back to read my eval, I was effusive in my praise of Mo and what he does well. Even said his talent (save for his health) was worthy of a high(er) pick. Which likely would have happened if not for his heart.
....and you said I was wrong.
Edit: my IDL building philosophy values players like MH. In case that wasn't clear.
Going to answer your post several ways.
- Would I Take Mo over Sheldon Day? Yes
- Would I sign him just to have him? No. Cost is a real question here, but he sure wouldn't be expensive.
- What is happening with Richardson? Restructure and Mo likely becomes a pipe dream. Release and a combination of Mo + a mid round target (my early name is Alim McNeil) and I feel you can really get some quality snaps and scheme flexibility with redundancy from those two. Then Malik Jackson becomes the elder statesman on the IDL with that playoff veteran saavy.
- Would MH be our best interior pass rusher not named Clowney or Myles in subpackates? Yes
The answer rooted in true realism is entirely dependent upon what transpires with Sheldon Richardson. Mo is a fine player who could be a breakout candidate IMHO. But health permitting, might not get that shake.
And going back to read my eval, I was effusive in my praise of Mo and what he does well. Even said his talent (save for his health) was worthy of a high(er) pick. Which likely would have happened if not for his heart.
....and you said I was wrong.
Edit: my IDL building philosophy values players like MH. In case that wasn't clear.
Looking at that thread, I don't think I said you were wrong. I think I said someone else was and that post no longer exists. It looks like I was more or less agreeing with you...
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Browns just released Richardson.
So.......
Da Fuck? I thought he was going to be a mainstay on our DL. Both DTs from last year to be gone? He and Ogunjobi? Seems like we now know what the are focusing in on in the draft.
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they brought back freddie kitchens as a personal evaluater
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Go get Mo?
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Da Fuck? I thought he was going to be a mainstay on our DL. Both DTs from last year to be gone? He and Ogunjobi? Seems like we now know what the are focusing in on in the draft.
Richardson was scheduled to be the third highest player on our roster this year behind the two lsu receivers. He was going to be paid as a top 10 dt this year. If he wasn't going to restructure or sign an extension with less money this was always likely to happen.
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Da Fuck? I thought he was going to be a mainstay on our DL. Both DTs from last year to be gone? He and Ogunjobi? Seems like we now know what the are focusing in on in the draft.
Richardson was scheduled to be the third highest player on our roster this year behind the two lsu receivers. He was going to be paid as a top 10 dt this year. If he wasn't going to restructure or sign an extension with less money this was always likely to happen.
Richardson was scheduled to be the third highest player on our roster this year behind the two lsu receivers. He was going to be paid as a top 10 dt this year. If he wasn't going to restructure or sign an extension with less money this was always likely to happen.
I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out before they signed Clowney without having to cut anyone.
Can Clowney play DT?
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Browns just released Richardson.
So.......
The new spelling for #98 on the roster will be Barmore. I'm telling ya they have him on that radar. LOL!?
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The new spelling for #98 on the roster will be Barmore. I'm telling ya they have him on that radar. LOL!?
Do you like Barmore?
We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush.
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The new spelling for #98 on the roster will be Barmore. I'm telling ya they have him on that radar. LOL!?
Do you like Barmore?
We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush.
Do you like Barmore?
We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush.
It's Depo moneyball.
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Richardson was scheduled to be the third highest player on our roster this year behind the two lsu receivers. He was going to be paid as a top 10 dt this year. If he wasn't going to restructure or sign an extension with less money this was always likely to happen.
I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out before they signed Clowney without having to cut anyone.
Can Clowney play DT?
I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out
Copied from another thread; below is Browns 2021 cap reality.
Browns salary obligations as of 4/16 after Richardson removed are 25.8M over the cap for 2021. The number to pay attention to is "Total Cap Liabilities" - cap is 182.5, dead is 2.7, salaries of active rostered players are 205.6. Rookies based on the wage scale are 8.9M. This doesn't include the 1-year rollover [100% of the "cap space" entry of 20.9 on OTC] so Browns are still 4.9M over if nothing else was happening before season start, 13.8M over when you include signing the rookie pool.
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Do you like Barmore?
We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush.
It's Depo moneyball.
It's Depo moneyball.
Can Chris Pratt play DLine?
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It's Depo moneyball.
Can Chris Pratt play DLine?
Can Chris Pratt play DLine?
I'm hoping the salaries of players cut to reach 53 and not onto PS will come off that total so perhaps we don't to cut more guys who contribute. But i need to look that up somewhere.
Sometimes diving into the weeds is annoying. Sometimes!
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I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out
Copied from another thread; below is Browns 2021 cap reality.
Browns salary obligations as of 4/16 after Richardson removed are 25.8M over the cap for 2021. The number to pay attention to is "Total Cap Liabilities" - cap is 182.5, dead is 2.7, salaries of active rostered players are 205.6. Rookies based on the wage scale are 8.9M. This doesn't include the 1-year rollover [100% of the "cap space" entry of 20.9 on OTC] so Browns are still 4.9M over if nothing else was happening before season start, 13.8M over when you include signing the rookie pool.
Browns salary obligations are 25.8M over the cap for 2021.. and that's after removing Richardson's contract.
13.8M over when you include signing the rookie pool.
Yeah Steve.. We too... were all the sudden the Saints..
edit-- what am i missing here.. how much was Richardson's cap hit savings?
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Richardson's charge against 2021 was 13.16, exact same as his salary in 2020. Dead hit against 2021 after cutting him is 1 2/3. So savings vs cap is 11.5.
Found a flaw in my calculations - only 65 who make the roster [53 active, 12 practice squad] will charge against the cap. That total currently is 201.6 [the highest-paid 65] rather than the 208.3 i said above and shown on OTC. Note that's only a difference of 6.7.. so we're "still" over the cap but only by 7m.
And here we still haven't included the rookies on the roster.. in calculations before I just added the rookie cost onto the end of the roster. Say all 9 make the team. Rookie pool is 8,931,008.. I'll underestimate and remove the 9 lowest salaries.. so top 56 plus the rookies. Or, to be exact, top 55 plus DPJ because DPJ's salary as a 7th rounder is 826 while the vet minimum is 850. So the 65 for 2021 season including the draftpicks is 200,658,119. Dead is 2,681,770. Cap is 182,500,000. So 203,339,889 is our 2021 total..
This assumes the most expensive guys make the roster.. if JoJoNatson [874,265] gets cut and Sheldon Day makes the roster [850] that's 25k lower roster expense.
So with cap space of 20,935,462 and these assumptions [which won't play out] we're now 95,573 under the cap for 2021.
Let's see what happens!
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