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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Well Kong vs. Godzilla sucked bigtime so it's down to a coinflip.

    I'd go for pure escapism fun with F9, but the first couple of installments in the Conjuring franchise were pretty solid.

    Seascape looks like a fun track... Did the Myrtle Beach thang back in the 80s. Never got close to the outer banks, but did spend a day in NC. Played Oyster Bay and IIRC Carolina Shores... the former was a great course... the latter a waste of time.

    $12mm/yr? Hard to see that for a RB... even for Chubb.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63

    Kong v Godzilla is fine for the visual appeal on the big screen, but the movie itself is just god awful.  Saw the first two Conjurings as I love a well done horror movie.  First one was solid, second one fell off a bit.  Won't bother with the 3rd because I'm sure as a trilogy it will end on a whimper.  

    Hoping Chubb keeps it around $10 mil.  I'm sure the fact this team will (likely/hopefully) pay Baker & Denzel which will be brought up in terms of $ to spread around re: positional value... in always fighting against that cap monster.      Generally I don't advocate for paying RB's high, but Chubb is a special case and a special runner.     If Baker & Myles are the heart of this team, then Nick is without question the soul.  

  • Well Kong vs. Godzilla sucked bigtime so it's down to a coinflip.

    I'd go for pure escapism fun with F9, but the first couple of installments in the Conjuring franchise were pretty solid.

    Seascape looks like a fun track... Did the Myrtle Beach thang back in the 80s. Never got close to the outer banks, but did spend a day in NC. Played Oyster Bay and IIRC Carolina Shores... the former was a great course... the latter a waste of time.

    $12mm/yr? Hard to see that for a RB... even for Chubb.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73

    @tour2ma said:

    Well Kong vs. Godzilla sucked bigtime so it's down to a coinflip.

    I'd go for pure escapism fun with F9, but the first couple of installments in the Conjuring franchise were pretty solid.

    Decided for the Boyz bus of "wreck? outside" flick... not a total suck for outdoor Hawk viewing... Saved the intense surround sound viewing for some rain coming in.. Conjuring on deck for Monday's wash-out ?️ F9 saved last night here... aka 'Were riding the storm out" ?

    Seascape looks like a fun track... Did the Myrtle Beach thang back in the 80s. Never got close to the outer banks, but did spend a day in NC. Played Oyster Bay and IIRC Carolina Shores... the former was a great course... the latter a waste of time.

    Turned the 9th hole corner at plus+2...Saw the radar of rain coming.. So we kept it moving...Could not hit a iron under a 7 to finish! Finished plus +6 from the gold tee's.. Got to 19th hole ?.. 15 minutes before drizzle turned into a horn calling golfers off... Were Still here.. Our Wife rules? be back by 6pm.. Sober is our plan ?  

    $12mm/yr? Hard to see that for a RB... even for Chubb.

    Is this a football geeks weekly job? Only Week 17? or Valuation totals thru Week 17?

    NFL Player Valuation: 2020 Week 17

    Player Team Position   Positional Value Overall Value   Current APY Value Over APY   2021 Cash Due Value Over Cash
    Baker Mayfield Browns QB   $30,300,000 $30,300,000   $8,170,745 $22,129,255   $5,106,770 $25,193,230
    M.J. Stewart Browns CB   $13,660,000 $15,189,000   $1,270,780 $13,918,220   $1,173,153 $14,015,847
    Jack Conklin Browns RT   $13,507,000 $13,966,000   $14,000,000 ($34,000)   $10,000,000 $3,966,000
    Sheldon Richardson Browns 43DT   $13,394,000 $13,854,000   $12,000,000 $1,854,000   $3,600,000 $10,254,000
    Jacob Phillips Browns LB   $13,431,000 $13,431,000   $1,086,078 $12,344,922   $814,518 $12,616,482
    Jedrick Wills Browns LT   $10,635,000 $11,094,000   $4,925,729 $6,168,271   $1,505,587 $9,588,413
    Ronnie Harrison Browns S   $9,639,000 $9,639,000   $847,008 $8,791,992   $2,183,000 $7,456,000
    Austin Hooper Browns TE   $9,010,000 $9,054,000   $10,500,000 ($1,446,000)   $11,500,000 ($2,446,000)
    J.C. Tretter Browns C   $8,570,000 $9,029,000   $10,850,000 ($1,821,000)   $9,450,000 ($421,000)
    Joel Bitonio Browns LG   $8,228,000 $8,687,000   $10,000,000 ($1,313,000)   $10,000,000 ($1,313,000)
    Myles Garrett Browns EDGE   $7,807,000 $8,267,000   $25,000,000 ($16,733,000)   $21,684,000 ($13,417,000)
    Sione Takitaki Browns ILB   $7,753,000 $8,212,000   $933,969 $7,278,031   $850,000 $7,362,000
    Jarvis Landry Browns WR   $8,109,000 $8,109,000   $15,100,000 ($6,991,000)   $13,300,000 ($5,191,000)
    Nick Chubb Browns RB   $7,818,000 $7,818,000   $1,845,774 $5,972,226   $3,384,000 $4,434,000
    Olivier Vernon Browns EDGE   $7,501,000 $7,634,000   $11,000,000 ($3,366,000)   Free Agent
    Rashard Higgins Browns WR   $7,576,000 $7,576,000   $910,000 $6,666,000   $2,377,500 $5,198,500
    Karl Joseph Browns S   $6,662,000 $7,302,000   $2,500,000 $4,802,000   $1,127,500 $6,174,500
    David Njoku Browns TE   $7,138,000 $7,138,000   $2,381,336 $4,756,664   $6,013,000 $1,125,000
    Terrance Mitchell Browns CB   $6,155,000 $6,155,000   $3,333,333 $2,821,667   $3,500,000 $2,655,000
    Mack Wilson Browns 43OLB   $4,545,000 $4,545,000   $707,201 $3,837,799   $850,000 $3,695,000
    Robert Jackson Browns CB   $4,164,000 $4,164,000   $762,500 $3,401,500   $850,000 $3,314,000
    KhaDarel Hodge Browns WR   $2,852,000 $4,075,000   $750,000 $3,325,000   $2,133,000 $1,942,000
    Larry Ogunjobi Browns 43DT   $4,054,000 $4,054,000   $976,788 $3,077,212   $6,200,000 ($2,146,000)
    Wyatt Teller Browns RG   $3,185,000 $3,644,000   $678,531 $2,965,469   $2,183,000 $1,461,000
    Kareem Hunt Browns RB   $2,703,000 $2,703,000   $6,000,000 ($3,297,000)   $5,000,000 ($2,297,000)
    Adrian Clayborn Browns 43DE   $2,585,000 $2,585,000   $2,875,000 ($290,000)   Free Agent
    Cody Parkey Browns K   $2,550,000 $2,550,000   $910,000 $1,640,000   $1,212,500 $1,337,500
    Sheldrick Redwine Browns S   $1,663,000 $2,497,000   $810,102 $1,686,898   $850,000 $1,647,000
    Stephen Carlson Browns TE   $521,000 $2,412,000   $540,000 $1,872,000   $850,000 $1,562,000
    Tavierre Thomas Browns CB   $0 $1,758,000   $571,667 $1,186,333   $2,250,000 ($492,000)
    Elijah Lee Browns LB   $0 $1,730,000   $835,000 $895,000   $990,000 $740,000
    Tae Davis Browns 43OLB   $0 $1,720,000   $571,667 $1,148,333   $1,250,000 $470,000
    Porter Gustin Browns 43DE   $654,000 $1,504,000   $540,000 $964,000   $850,000 $654,000
    Andy Janovich Browns FB   $0 $1,472,000   $1,900,000 ($428,000)   $1,450,000 $22,000
    Jamie Gillan Browns P   $918,000 $918,000   $588,333 $329,667   $850,000 $68,000
    Jovante Moffatt Browns S   $0 $915,000   $695,000 $220,000   $780,000 $135,000
    Vincent Taylor Browns DT   $429,000 $889,000   $690,000 $199,000   $1,500,000 ($611,000)
    Charley Hughlett Browns LS   $823,000 $823,000   $1,061,667 ($238,667)   $1,145,000 ($322,000)
    D'ernest Johnson Browns RB   $0 $787,000   $585,000 $202,000   $850,000 ($63,000)
    A.J. Green Browns CB   $0 $610,000   $170,282 $439,718   $660,000 ($50,000)
    Alex Taylor Browns RT   $0 $610,000   $142,800 $467,200   $660,000 ($50,000)
    Montrel Meander Browns S   $0 $610,000   $180,212 $429,788   $850,000 ($240,000)
    Donovan Peoples-Jones Browns WR   $452,000 $610,000   $870,402 ($260,402)   $780,000 ($170,000)
    Michael Dunn Browns LG   $0 $610,000   $695,000 ($85,000)   $780,000 ($170,000)
    Jordan Elliott Browns DT   $610,000 $610,000   $1,123,438 ($513,438)   $818,565 ($208,565)

    Happy Father's Day! Ya All ?

     
  • @tour2ma said:

    Well Kong vs. Godzilla sucked bigtime so it's down to a coinflip.

    I'd go for pure escapism fun with F9, but the first couple of installments in the Conjuring franchise were pretty solid.

    Decided for the Boyz bus of "wreck? outside" flick... not a total suck for outdoor Hawk viewing... Saved the intense surround sound viewing for some rain coming in.. Conjuring on deck for Monday's wash-out ?️ F9 saved last night here... aka 'Were riding the storm out" ?

    Seascape looks like a fun track... Did the Myrtle Beach thang back in the 80s. Never got close to the outer banks, but did spend a day in NC. Played Oyster Bay and IIRC Carolina Shores... the former was a great course... the latter a waste of time.

    Turned the 9th hole corner at plus+2...Saw the radar of rain coming.. So we kept it moving...Could not hit a iron under a 7 to finish! Finished plus +6 from the gold tee's.. Got to 19th hole ?.. 15 minutes before drizzle turned into a horn calling golfers off... Were Still here.. Our Wife rules? be back by 6pm.. Sober is our plan ?  

    $12mm/yr? Hard to see that for a RB... even for Chubb.

    Is this a football geeks weekly job? Only Week 17? or Valuation totals thru Week 17?

    NFL Player Valuation: 2020 Week 17

    Player Team Position   Positional Value Overall Value   Current APY Value Over APY   2021 Cash Due Value Over Cash
    Baker Mayfield Browns QB   $30,300,000 $30,300,000   $8,170,745 $22,129,255   $5,106,770 $25,193,230
    M.J. Stewart Browns CB   $13,660,000 $15,189,000   $1,270,780 $13,918,220   $1,173,153 $14,015,847
    Jack Conklin Browns RT   $13,507,000 $13,966,000   $14,000,000 ($34,000)   $10,000,000 $3,966,000
    Sheldon Richardson Browns 43DT   $13,394,000 $13,854,000   $12,000,000 $1,854,000   $3,600,000 $10,254,000
    Jacob Phillips Browns LB   $13,431,000 $13,431,000   $1,086,078 $12,344,922   $814,518 $12,616,482
    Jedrick Wills Browns LT   $10,635,000 $11,094,000   $4,925,729 $6,168,271   $1,505,587 $9,588,413
    Ronnie Harrison Browns S   $9,639,000 $9,639,000   $847,008 $8,791,992   $2,183,000 $7,456,000
    Austin Hooper Browns TE   $9,010,000 $9,054,000   $10,500,000 ($1,446,000)   $11,500,000 ($2,446,000)
    J.C. Tretter Browns C   $8,570,000 $9,029,000   $10,850,000 ($1,821,000)   $9,450,000 ($421,000)
    Joel Bitonio Browns LG   $8,228,000 $8,687,000   $10,000,000 ($1,313,000)   $10,000,000 ($1,313,000)
    Myles Garrett Browns EDGE   $7,807,000 $8,267,000   $25,000,000 ($16,733,000)   $21,684,000 ($13,417,000)
    Sione Takitaki Browns ILB   $7,753,000 $8,212,000   $933,969 $7,278,031   $850,000 $7,362,000
    Jarvis Landry Browns WR   $8,109,000 $8,109,000   $15,100,000 ($6,991,000)   $13,300,000 ($5,191,000)
    Nick Chubb Browns RB   $7,818,000 $7,818,000   $1,845,774 $5,972,226   $3,384,000 $4,434,000
    Olivier Vernon Browns EDGE   $7,501,000 $7,634,000   $11,000,000 ($3,366,000)   Free Agent
    Rashard Higgins Browns WR   $7,576,000 $7,576,000   $910,000 $6,666,000   $2,377,500 $5,198,500
    Karl Joseph Browns S   $6,662,000 $7,302,000   $2,500,000 $4,802,000   $1,127,500 $6,174,500
    David Njoku Browns TE   $7,138,000 $7,138,000   $2,381,336 $4,756,664   $6,013,000 $1,125,000
    Terrance Mitchell Browns CB   $6,155,000 $6,155,000   $3,333,333 $2,821,667   $3,500,000 $2,655,000
    Mack Wilson Browns 43OLB   $4,545,000 $4,545,000   $707,201 $3,837,799   $850,000 $3,695,000
    Robert Jackson Browns CB   $4,164,000 $4,164,000   $762,500 $3,401,500   $850,000 $3,314,000
    KhaDarel Hodge Browns WR   $2,852,000 $4,075,000   $750,000 $3,325,000   $2,133,000 $1,942,000
    Larry Ogunjobi Browns 43DT   $4,054,000 $4,054,000   $976,788 $3,077,212   $6,200,000 ($2,146,000)
    Wyatt Teller Browns RG   $3,185,000 $3,644,000   $678,531 $2,965,469   $2,183,000 $1,461,000
    Kareem Hunt Browns RB   $2,703,000 $2,703,000   $6,000,000 ($3,297,000)   $5,000,000 ($2,297,000)
    Adrian Clayborn Browns 43DE   $2,585,000 $2,585,000   $2,875,000 ($290,000)   Free Agent
    Cody Parkey Browns K   $2,550,000 $2,550,000   $910,000 $1,640,000   $1,212,500 $1,337,500
    Sheldrick Redwine Browns S   $1,663,000 $2,497,000   $810,102 $1,686,898   $850,000 $1,647,000
    Stephen Carlson Browns TE   $521,000 $2,412,000   $540,000 $1,872,000   $850,000 $1,562,000
    Tavierre Thomas Browns CB   $0 $1,758,000   $571,667 $1,186,333   $2,250,000 ($492,000)
    Elijah Lee Browns LB   $0 $1,730,000   $835,000 $895,000   $990,000 $740,000
    Tae Davis Browns 43OLB   $0 $1,720,000   $571,667 $1,148,333   $1,250,000 $470,000
    Porter Gustin Browns 43DE   $654,000 $1,504,000   $540,000 $964,000   $850,000 $654,000
    Andy Janovich Browns FB   $0 $1,472,000   $1,900,000 ($428,000)   $1,450,000 $22,000
    Jamie Gillan Browns P   $918,000 $918,000   $588,333 $329,667   $850,000 $68,000
    Jovante Moffatt Browns S   $0 $915,000   $695,000 $220,000   $780,000 $135,000
    Vincent Taylor Browns DT   $429,000 $889,000   $690,000 $199,000   $1,500,000 ($611,000)
    Charley Hughlett Browns LS   $823,000 $823,000   $1,061,667 ($238,667)   $1,145,000 ($322,000)
    D'ernest Johnson Browns RB   $0 $787,000   $585,000 $202,000   $850,000 ($63,000)
    A.J. Green Browns CB   $0 $610,000   $170,282 $439,718   $660,000 ($50,000)
    Alex Taylor Browns RT   $0 $610,000   $142,800 $467,200   $660,000 ($50,000)
    Montrel Meander Browns S   $0 $610,000   $180,212 $429,788   $850,000 ($240,000)
    Donovan Peoples-Jones Browns WR   $452,000 $610,000   $870,402 ($260,402)   $780,000 ($170,000)
    Michael Dunn Browns LG   $0 $610,000   $695,000 ($85,000)   $780,000 ($170,000)
    Jordan Elliott Browns DT   $610,000 $610,000   $1,123,438 ($513,438)   $818,565 ($208,565)

    Happy Father's Day! Ya All ?

     
    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @gumby73 said:

    Happy Father's Day! Ya All ?

    Back at ya... and the rest of yall Dads out there...

    +9! Very strong... even in a casual game.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Happy Father's Day! Ya All ?

    Back at ya... and the rest of yall Dads out there...

    +9! Very strong... even in a casual game.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Back at ya... and the rest of yall Dads out there...

    +9! Very strong... even in a casual game.  

    #babysteps

    ✌️ + ?️☝️ ='s ??? ....  proving... Dad's release from mom's homework child duties was best 😁... thanks!   

    access your scorecard penalty strokes to your next round... ⛳

  • @tour2ma said:

    Back at ya... and the rest of yall Dads out there...

    +9! Very strong... even in a casual game.  

    #babysteps

    ✌️ + ?️☝️ ='s ??? ....  proving... Dad's release from mom's homework child duties was best 😁... thanks!   

    access your scorecard penalty strokes to your next round... ⛳

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @gumby73 said:

    access your scorecard penalty strokes to your next round... ⛳

    Lmao...

    In other words... "Not strict rules of golf, Mr. Bond?"

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    The rules of golf were much more strict a couple hundred years ago....

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    The best of all?

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73

    Pete Smith's.. priorities in contract order ?  https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/ranking-browns-extension-priorities  

    I had thought Greg Newsome would sign before exiting mandatory's? Rosie's 5 day agent window had opened https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/filthy-rich-how-much-money-every-2021-b1g-first-round-draft-pick-will-make/ Let's get this pen2paper done..?

    I still have wounds healing from last season's defensive mash units ⛑️.... Should the hot seated Joe Wood's? Be pounding his table to add CB Richard Sherman or __________? Or DT Geno Adkins or Jurrell Casey? Let's just say... "we could get a 1 year SB run contract of "6-8M done"

    back checking Greedy & Newsome's injury history?...is as scary as Robert Jackson playing CB2 at KC... ?

    • Yeah! I'm off to taking that Beach Run.... ?‍♂️   ?‍♀️...  than a morning cocktail ?
    • Enjoy your 2 for Tuesday!
  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic

    Hooper will be on the roster thru the end of current deal - 2024 is a void year and thus the last year with us is 2023. There's too much dead money to cut earlier : 

    If cut during that season, 2021 dead - 19.5M // 2022 dead - 11.25 // 2023 dead - 7.5.  And no matter what he's also costing 3.75 dead on our 2024 books.

    He's not getting cut; only possibility is to do an Osweiler deal and give someone else a draft pick to eat our bad decision-making. 

    Hooper is one in the negative column for Berry.. Obviously a "good" player but not 8.25 in 2021 and 13.25 in each of 22, 23 level of good.

    Details on all our TE grades -- Njoku had our best TE runblock and passblock PFF grades in 2020 and just a shade under Hooper's receiving grade.