NFL ...the dark side
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I think there's plenty wrong with going through the motions while being paid millions to do it. The players are human, yes....but they should have enough loyalty to their employer to at least represent the team with pride. If my employer is paying me that kind of money, I'm wearing the team name/logo with pride. By the way....he was gone by 2013, so he didn't experience anything like 4 - 44.
But, if you play like crap to get your way out of town- it shows. Or cop an attitude- adios. Worst example I can recall is Eric Dickerson literally quitting- in the middle of a game- against the Browns no less...
MHO the primary reason the Browns stunk for so long was horrendous drafting. I could give you a litany of the Pro Bowl and HOF players the Browns whiffed on who were still on the board when we drafted. Sure bad coaches and bad management were certainly a factor too....
Yes winning begets more winning, and losing begets more losing. I'll be curious to see if we can bury the Patriot mystique after a losing season...
MHO the primary reason the Browns stunk for so long was horrendous drafting
And we're still trying to wash the stink off of this.. Later rounds of a good draft generate the young backups [on rookie salaries which permit the cap flexibility to re-sign starters] and occasional late-round gems.. we've had the pu-pu platter of zilch for many years after round 2.
Everything about 2016.. 2017 after round 1.. 2018 after the selection of Chubb.. This offseason will determine how our entire 2019 draft will be viewed.. Only with the hiring of Berry do our late rounds appear to even be able to make the final roster - DPJ and, hopefully, Felton are a part of changing this trend.
To familyblog The Wolf's best line in Pulp Fiction, let's not start patting each other's backs just yet.
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That's funny! lol Yup. We lived through it. (miss ya Gipper) We have adults running the show now. And intelligent ones at that. 'Cos that helps.
Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.
Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.
And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.
Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.
Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.
And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.
This REALLY echoes my feelings! Every time the Haslams erred, they took it on the chin, swallowed their pride, headed in a different direction, & eventually struck gold. DePo is an important piece of that gold.
We'll see what happens as we move thru the years of retaining the talent we have amassed, but this Franchise is quickly establishing itself among the better ones in the NFL.
Mike
Joe Thomas' Aunt Mary...what a neat lady she is!
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That's funny! lol Yup. We lived through it. (miss ya Gipper) We have adults running the show now. And intelligent ones at that. 'Cos that helps.
Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.
Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.
And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.
Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.
Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.
And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.
I forgot DePo definitely agree there. He did a lot to alter the way of thinking and the added perspective has been a welcome addition.
The Haslems I dunno. A Broken clock is right twice a day. But They’ve done well or better now of letting others do their job.
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That's funny! lol Yup. We lived through it. (miss ya Gipper) We have adults running the show now. And intelligent ones at that. 'Cos that helps.
Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.
Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.
And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.
Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.
Cool little confirmation in this article's Top Myth...
Cleveland Browns Myth No. 1: Dee Haslam is not running the Cleveland Browns
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/06/20/amazingly-stupid-myths-cleveland-browns/5/
Here's the article from the beginning...
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/06/20/amazingly-stupid-myths-cleveland-browns/
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...
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if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...
if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...
It's the name of the show.
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I watched this show the other night, only because it was highlighting the Browns. I thought it was done poorly, and didn't really cover as much as it should have. The one thing that struck me, was the interview with D'Qwell Jackson. I kind of liked him when he played here, but after this, he exposed himself as the loser that he really is. He stated.... not in these exact words, that he was proud to play in the NFL, but didn't really want anyone to know that he played for the Browns. Now, we've all had similar feelings at some point over the past 20+ seasons...even if we don't want to admit it. But...this is different. He's a professional football player....we're fans. I've struggled with the question many times..."How can we be sooo bad for sooo long?" It defies the law of averages. I know we've had bad coaches, bad owners and bad players, but you have to admit that there were some teams over those years that really should have done much better, with the talent they had. This D'Qwell Jackson thing answers that question....well, for me, anyway. Any player...whether rookie or veteran...coming to a new team, with that attitude has no chance to help turn the team around. The stigma that became tied to the Cleveland Browns, has determined the fate of the team since 1999. It probably wasn't that strong with the Tim Couch teams, because those teams showed some heart, but lacked talent. Once the losing set in, players like Jackson determined the fate of the team...at least subconsciously. I have to assume a lot of the players did not want to be here from their first day, and played like it. This explains away all the jinx theories, the curse theories, and the "NFL hates us" theories. We can all debate Baker Mayfield's talent and ability to turn this team around, but from what I've seen, I have to think he has not fallen into that mentality, and never will. Thank God for players like Mayfield and Jarvis Landry.
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I know we've had bad coaches, bad owners and bad players
It's not just specific people -- all professional athletes are extremely competitive and want to win at all times. The goal is to create a self-reinforcing upward rather than downward spiral.
This is the internal culture of any business -- are people willing to collectively realize that we are all the cause of [and can, if we all own our part, be the solution to] any problem? One model of business change management is ADKAR.. and we can almost pinpoint the dates each element went from red to green. Kind of interesting to watch as our team went from being a laughingstonk to a case study in transformation.
That was originally a typo, but I think it stays..
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if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...
It's the name of the show.
It's the name of the show.
He's kind of dense.
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I have always HATED this song... GAH!!
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I have always HATED this song... GAH!!
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