Baker Mayfield
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A few more that REALLY bother me.
The high throw and drop by DPJ early? Never had to be that way.
Baker had a rollout with double TE to that side right in front of him and a Corner + Safety that had thrown a bracket on DPJ. Hoop looked back for the throw, before this frame Njoku looked up field for someone to block before looking back expecting the ball to go to Hoop.
Yes, reads dominantly go deep to short. But this is an example of making the game harder than it has to be. This is a convoy in front of you with a big lane opening for, what would likely have been, a HUGE early TD utilizing close space and the short passing game.
Instead, Baker plants and fires back across field to the far side hash. Ball arrives high and the DB gets a good hit before DPJ can reel the ball into his body for security.
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3 of 4. This sort of foreshadows what Gorka mentioned above with things Kurt didn't bring up. But Juice was in the backfield earlier and Baker didn't utilize him.
He gets motioned from the trio to a split to the right just outside of the RT. Buckeye fans, this should look familiar. Google "shot-Ginn" from 2004, 2005 and 2006. This isn't some radical concept. Giving a receiver quick in short space a free release is always the goal regardless of the formation. The motion brought along no DB, so this would tend to tip off some type of zone coverage.
Baker getting locked into the boundary (again) to Chubb. His read to this side isn't terrible, that isn't a problem I suppose. He wants Chubb to the flat before the linebacker can zone expand and pick him up. Makes sense, should be an easy pitch and catch...
Except instead of making a routine and easy short throw. Baker doesn't set his feet, doesn't square, nothing. He drifts back, gives a slight hop and uses his arm like a trebuchet. Because of this, his hips over rotate along with the rest of his torso. So instead of the ball being in an ideal place for your RB who isn't the most gifted athlete in this sense... You've given him a rock and a hard place.
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The ball ends up high and wide.... AfuckingGain.
Only Baker knows it because he does this little dance and chest tap.
At the bottom I highlighted that Landry got picked up by the safety while the low hole defender drifted to his right (Bakers left) leaving a lot of useable space underneath and to Bakers right. Go back and check my previous posts... notice I mention Baker just doesn't utilize all that is given to him? Bryant up the seam on square in to his right against cover 2 is just another example in a long line of either pre-determinations and/or bad throws. The safety is going to give Juice space out of the backfield because nobody checked him on his release. Free release is a WR and QB's dream.
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4 of 4 The House call that wasn't.
Pre-determination. This is, in a nutshell, what I'm talking about.
Pre-snap Baker is convinced he has man coverage the whole way. You can't blame him in a sense, Ravens showed man coverage a good deal to this point. But you also know they love to poker bluff you and invite throws into coverage. Post snap is everything. If you make a good pre-snap read, your post snap will justify that mindfulness.
The yellow highlights what I believe Baker thought, the red shows a 2 zone if that boundary safety drops. Also shows cover 1 being possible if that field safety shades just inside the hash. Could be a split field coverage as well like qtr/qtr/half (cover 6) Point being, you're not psychic. You don't know until you know.
Instead... Well... yeah. The WHOLE way.
Bakers eyes never left this.
Baker gripped and ripped this out/curl to DPJ without even so much as a 2nd thought. Instead of it being man coverage, it looks like some form of quarters.
Qtrs assignments.
Now I admit giving it a 3rd look before posting, that could be cover 6 because the boundary CB is playing cover 2 rules - he's getting hands on the WR, routing him inside then getting eyes back and trailing underneath him. Either way, my point still stands. Marlon was a flat expand in either C6 or quarters and Baker never bothered to read what was offered to him. Instead of finding Juice open on the safety who was reading him as the #2 and driving on the route. You can tell from the voided space all Baker has to do is anticipate this window after a read and fire into voided space to possibly have a shot at moving the chains.
But Baker bombs one.... WAIT FOR IT... HIGH AND WIDE.
Actually, of all the times Baker has done this, this was the best time. Because if this throw was anywhere inside on where his intended target was, Marlon Humphrey is grabbing it and walking it all the way back to the crib.
I know you guys don't want to hear this, but the Browns have a QB problem at the moment. Sure, like Kurt said, it isn't ALL on Baker. But the bulk of it is. The tackles HAVE to be elite because of the space and depth he requires in the pocket. So you need amazing protection in comparison to other QB's that don't require his vision for throwing lanes. You need tall targets with insane catch radius because Baker has a documented history of missing high and or high/wide. You need a Shanahan play caller who is football genius to cover up the smells of Bakers questionable reads. Things he does FAR too often to be labeled an elite QB.
Most of you are twice my age. I was raised on stories of Bernie being a brilliant QB. A QB who overcame his wonky throwing motion and ostrich physical measurements by being smart and accurate. Baker is quite literally his polar opposite right now. Mayfield has a ridiculously live arm, but (as of typing this) absolute SHIT for brains, eyes and ball placement.
There is no whiny ass podcast you can link with a dumb rant from some nerd, or anyone else that hasn't watched 4 years worth of games who ISN'T giving you this type of analysis that should be convincing you otherwise. Baker is the majority of this teams issue as of right now. *shrug*
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And this is the stretch run of Baker's second season under Stefanski.
It is going to be very interesting to see how the Browns handle Baker's impending free agency.
The continued insistence of the coaching staff and Berry that Baker is healthy enough to play almost makes a person think that privately they all have concluded that a lot of the production problems stem from his limitations, and not his injuries.
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Baker is hurt. But he could still make things happen if he had more than one wr who is able to regular get open.
Peyton Manning wasn't very mobile - I don't believe HE could get our wr's open (except for Landry).
Again - I posted where Barfsonhisblooger was missing open recievers, etc etc.
Wr's not being up to par is not an excuse. It's a fact. (except for Landry, lol).
Baker is part of the problem mostly because he has injuries. But it isn't all on him.
BTW, Kurt Warner is a nerd?
This coaching staff knows their football - it's a complicated team game. They are learning what they can and can't do. I still say they went with Baker with injuries because he is best able to make good with the wr's they have - but I would have started Case Keenum.
Now, Keenum - Stefanski KNOWS him. and they start Baker. I don't get that.
But saying it's mostly on Baker is dumb. I guess the huge win over Cincy was not all on Baker?
Simply put - the ravens shut down the run, and played a lot of man to man because the Browns receivers are not
scary. So, Hance was having trouble with the all out pass rush, he plays on the right side, and Hooper was open on the right side.
I just think if any of us were standing in Baker's place, we wouldn't have seen Hooper either.
Remember the Browns-Bengals score? 41-16? Huge Browns win? Same Baker. Different defense. Our wide receivers could get open.
Browns-Cincy - Chubb had 137 yards rushing. Vs the ratbirds, Chubb had sixteen yards rushing.
Passing vs Cincy?
D. Peoples-Jones 2 86 1 60 3 N. Chubb 2 26 0 23 2 H. Bryant 2 26 0 21 2 D. Felton 1 22 0 22 1 D. Njoku 1 18 1 18 3 A. Schwartz 1 15 0 15 1 A. Hooper 2 14 0 11 2 J. Landry 3 11 0 7 5 Landry, vs the ratbirds - was targeted ten times - could only catch 6 - for 111 yards.
Meanwhile, I don't believe Wills is playing at 100%. Conklin is out.
Simply put - the ratbirds have a secondary that can cover the Browns wr's, the Bengals could not, even while not stacking the box.
Replacing Baker does not solve the wr problem - and the Browns coaches know that.
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There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
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There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
This is where Kevin Stefanski and AVP have to prove themselves as caretakers of the QB and his development.. They are , or can be just as responsible for the growth of a player as the player himself.. This is where they earn their paycheck so to speak... It goes deeper than what happens on gameday...
Also... At the risk of sounding racist.. I will also say... The NFL and Roger "Creampuff" Goodell and the Woke seem hell bent on glorifying the Black athlete just to appease them...
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There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
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There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
It's possible that both Lamar and Baker are performing like mediocre QB's. This isn't a mutually exclusive deal.
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There's a double standard here, and it's fueled by the media. I guess Mayfield's attitude just rubs people the wrong way. Looking at the stats, and comparing him to Lamar Jackson proves this. Mayfield has had 4 games with a qb rating over 100, Jackson has 1. Mayfield's qb rating for the season is higher than Jackson's and has been that way all season. Yet, these dumb ass commentators and so called experts still consider lamar Jackson "elite". I don't see it. He's an exceptional running back who is very elusive and can out run the defense. He's really not a very good qb. Baker isn't stupid...he knows he's being tagged unfairly as a mediocre qb. He has a fragile ego, and he's starting to believe this crap himself. I just hope he can find his way back to playing at the level he's capable of.
It's possible that both Lamar and Baker are performing like mediocre QB's. This isn't a mutually exclusive deal.
It's possible that both Lamar and Baker are performing like mediocre QB's. This isn't a mutually exclusive deal.
Could be TRUE but I think that Baker Mayfield's performance maybe more physical injuries affecting his performance than some 4th year thing. I think that he's still a good gunslinger QB on the move guy. HOF QB eh probably not unless he can hang around for a long time.
Injuries too to dependable Landy, questionable OBJ and others. It's not all the quarterback good or bad.
On MVP Jackson I think it's just the inevitable decline of a running QB in the NFL. It's rare when they last as long as Vick and others.
I think most fans will agree LJ is a running back that plays quarterback.
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A few more that REALLY bother me.
The high throw and drop by DPJ early? Never had to be that way.
Baker had a rollout with double TE to that side right in front of him and a Corner + Safety that had thrown a bracket on DPJ. Hoop looked back for the throw, before this frame Njoku looked up field for someone to block before looking back expecting the ball to go to Hoop.
Yes, reads dominantly go deep to short. But this is an example of making the game harder than it has to be. This is a convoy in front of you with a big lane opening for, what would likely have been, a HUGE early TD utilizing close space and the short passing game.
Instead, Baker plants and fires back across field to the far side hash. Ball arrives high and the DB gets a good hit before DPJ can reel the ball into his body for security.
A few more that REALLY bother me.
The high throw and drop by DPJ early? Never had to be that way.
Baker had a rollout with double TE to that side right in front of him and a Corner + Safety that had thrown a bracket on DPJ. Hoop looked back for the throw, before this frame Njoku looked up field for someone to block before looking back expecting the ball to go to Hoop.
Yes, reads dominantly go deep to short. But this is an example of making the game harder than it has to be. This is a convoy in front of you with a big lane opening for, what would likely have been, a HUGE early TD utilizing close space and the short passing game.
Instead, Baker plants and fires back across field to the far side hash. Ball arrives high and the DB gets a good hit before DPJ can reel the ball into his body for security.
Blown coverage, and Baker ignored it.
Had Hoop or Njoku open for a probable touchdown, no Raven within 10 yards of them. . I've pointed this out more than once.
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all quarterbacks make mistakes. Especially when their wr's are not getting open. And, even Tom Brady doesn't see wrs that are open at times. It's a team game. Baker isn't perfect. No nfl qb is perfect. That makes Baker average? yikes !
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"I Saw Six Times That Mike Evans Was Open" - JoeBucsFan ...
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"Burrow's 11 interceptions now lead the NFL. "
EDIT:
Let's look at Burrow's wide receivers:
Ja'marr Chase, FIRST ROUND, PICK 5
Tee HIggins - SECOND ROUND, Mid Round
Tyler Boyd - SECOND ROUND, late
and still, Burrow ...at least was leading the NFL in interceptions?
and Baker is only "average"
what a bunch of hooey.
The Browns need to upgrade their wide receivers and let Baker get healthy.
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@gorka said:
Warner sounds like a Baker apologist.
I'd like for another HOF QB do the same analysis. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he ripped Warners analysis apart.
Go to 6:10
Warner completely poo poo's the 2 wide open guys at the top of the screen with "yes they're open but"... That had TD written all over it. No defender gonna catch up.
I've seen plenty of games where I've seen Elway leave guys open... so theres that...
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@gorka said:
Warner sounds like a Baker apologist.
I'd like for another HOF QB do the same analysis. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he ripped Warners analysis apart.
Go to 6:10
Warner completely poo poo's the 2 wide open guys at the top of the screen with "yes they're open but"... That had TD written all over it. No defender gonna catch up.
I've seen plenty of games where I've seen Elway leave guys open... so theres that...
I've seen plenty of games where I've seen Elway leave guys open... so theres that...
Oh I'm sure every QB has left guys wide open. But like I said, it wouldn't surprise me if another HOF QB tore Warners analysis to shreds. Thats the nature of this business.
Another head scratcher.
At 7:44.
How does Warner know for sure this play was designed for Chubb to run the flat route? Some plays are designed for the receiver to be at or near the first down marker, and thats exactly where Chubb was heading. I'd bet a thousand bucks that Chubb ran the play the way it was designed.
The most absurd comment by Warner was when he said Baker was jumping up and down because Chubb didn't run the flat route. What??
Baker was jumping up and down in frustration over a near catch that was slightly overthrown, not because Chubb didn't take the flat route. Stupid comment.
Had he caught it, it would have set up 2nd and a couple feet, not 3rd and short as Warner indicated.
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It's possible that both Lamar and Baker are performing like mediocre QB's. This isn't a mutually exclusive deal.
Could be TRUE but I think that Baker Mayfield's performance maybe more physical injuries affecting his performance than some 4th year thing. I think that he's still a good gunslinger QB on the move guy. HOF QB eh probably not unless he can hang around for a long time.
Injuries too to dependable Landy, questionable OBJ and others. It's not all the quarterback good or bad.
On MVP Jackson I think it's just the inevitable decline of a running QB in the NFL. It's rare when they last as long as Vick and others.
I think most fans will agree LJ is a running back that plays quarterback.
Could be TRUE but I think that Baker Mayfield's performance maybe more physical injuries affecting his performance than some 4th year thing. I think that he's still a good gunslinger QB on the move guy. HOF QB eh probably not unless he can hang around for a long time.
Injuries too to dependable Landy, questionable OBJ and others. It's not all the quarterback good or bad.
On MVP Jackson I think it's just the inevitable decline of a running QB in the NFL. It's rare when they last as long as Vick and others.
I think most fans will agree LJ is a running back that plays quarterback.
The only problem is the evidence to the contrary in both cases.
I've highlighted problems with Bakers decision making pre and post injury.
Bakers injured have further limited his mobility and accuracy on the run. There is also some majors misses from him in crucial situations on the move as well.
To further that point, when this office wanted to turn Baker into a "gunslinger", we were treated to the 2019 season with bipolar levels of play and a high turnover ratio.
For all the complaints about Stef and excessive use of 13 personnel, those same people complaining forget that Bakers emergence his rookie year coincided with Freddie cutting down the offense, going TE heavy and Chubb bursting onto the scene.
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Could be TRUE but I think that Baker Mayfield's performance maybe more physical injuries affecting his performance than some 4th year thing. I think that he's still a good gunslinger QB on the move guy. HOF QB eh probably not unless he can hang around for a long time.
Injuries too to dependable Landy, questionable OBJ and others. It's not all the quarterback good or bad.
On MVP Jackson I think it's just the inevitable decline of a running QB in the NFL. It's rare when they last as long as Vick and others.
I think most fans will agree LJ is a running back that plays quarterback.
The only problem is the evidence to the contrary in both cases.
I've highlighted problems with Bakers decision making pre and post injury.
Bakers injured have further limited his mobility and accuracy on the run. There is also some majors misses from him in crucial situations on the move as well.
To further that point, when this office wanted to turn Baker into a "gunslinger", we were treated to the 2019 season with bipolar levels of play and a high turnover ratio.
For all the complaints about Stef and excessive use of 13 personnel, those same people complaining forget that Bakers emergence his rookie year coincided with Freddie cutting down the offense, going TE heavy and Chubb bursting onto the scene.
The only problem is the evidence to the contrary in both cases.
I've highlighted problems with Bakers decision making pre and post injury.
Bakers injured have further limited his mobility and accuracy on the run. There is also some majors misses from him in crucial situations on the move as well.
To further that point, when this office wanted to turn Baker into a "gunslinger", we were treated to the 2019 season with bipolar levels of play and a high turnover ratio.
For all the complaints about Stef and excessive use of 13 personnel, those same people complaining forget that Bakers emergence his rookie year coincided with Freddie cutting down the offense, going TE heavy and Chubb bursting onto the scene.
Yeah, I'm in the 1st row of the upper deck. Great seats to see a play develop. Sometimes I see what you posted above (guys being open, not seeing it).
I love Baker, but I'm worried. His real strength as a QB is the play action & rollout. The injuries have basically forced the coaching staff to eliminate or dramatically reduce those plays. That's why they're struggling to score, sustain drives.
The biggest game of his career was the playoff game in Pittsburgh, until now. The Browns & Baker need to step up vs a vulnerable Ratbird team on Sunday. I'm an optimist, so I think the Browns come out fired up & win it....if they don't, well this forum & sports talk radio is going to get real ugly.
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all quarterbacks make mistakes. Especially when their wr's are not getting open. And, even Tom Brady doesn't see wrs that are open at times. It's a team game. Baker isn't perfect. No nfl qb is perfect. That makes Baker average? yikes !
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"I Saw Six Times That Mike Evans Was Open" - JoeBucsFan ...
Yes, Brady was quick to look short, despite Washington being down its two best edge rushers and lacking a superstar in their secondary. Joe saw one short throw in the red zone to Giovani Bernard while Mike Evans was wide open in the end zone. Strange day for Brady. Joe doesn't expect to see much more of that. Follow.***************************************
Patrick Mahomes: 'There are plays where guys are open that ...
On first down in the second quarter, Mahomes gives a play-action fake and comes out of it looking for the big play. He attempts a bomb to wide receiver Mecole Hardman, who can't work around the ...https://brobible.com/sports/article/ben-roethlisberger-pittsburgh-steelers-retire/
all quarterbacks make mistakes. Especially when their wr's are not getting open. And, even Tom Brady doesn't see wrs that are open at times. It's a team game. Baker isn't perfect. No nfl qb is perfect. That makes Baker average? yikes !
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"I Saw Six Times That Mike Evans Was Open" - JoeBucsFan ...
Yes, Brady was quick to look short, despite Washington being down its two best edge rushers and lacking a superstar in their secondary. Joe saw one short throw in the red zone to Giovani Bernard while Mike Evans was wide open in the end zone. Strange day for Brady. Joe doesn't expect to see much more of that. Follow.***************************************
Patrick Mahomes: 'There are plays where guys are open that ...
On first down in the second quarter, Mahomes gives a play-action fake and comes out of it looking for the big play. He attempts a bomb to wide receiver Mecole Hardman, who can't work around the ...https://brobible.com/sports/article/ben-roethlisberger-pittsburgh-steelers-retire/
Cal just please stop your mantra our receivers aren't good enough... They are, but Baker doesn't see them, or notice that they're wide freaking open, and forces the ball into double or triple coverage instead.... At a frequency that's below par for the very top QBs....
Tia is writing a book in this thread on how Baker is having serious problems with post snap adjustments. Oh, and he's missing a ton of throws high and wide? Because he's injured? Then take a seat, and let Keenum play.
Last three games... QBR 79, 53, 56. That sucks, FYI... That level of performance, and extend the guy at $35 million? You have got to be kidding. Make all the excuses for Baker you want to. It seems like Stefanski is going to ride his three legged horse right out of the playoffs.
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all quarterbacks make mistakes. Especially when their wr's are not getting open. And, even Tom Brady doesn't see wrs that are open at times. It's a team game. Baker isn't perfect. No nfl qb is perfect. That makes Baker average? yikes !
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"I Saw Six Times That Mike Evans Was Open" - JoeBucsFan ...
Yes, Brady was quick to look short, despite Washington being down its two best edge rushers and lacking a superstar in their secondary. Joe saw one short throw in the red zone to Giovani Bernard while Mike Evans was wide open in the end zone. Strange day for Brady. Joe doesn't expect to see much more of that. Follow.***************************************
Patrick Mahomes: 'There are plays where guys are open that ...
On first down in the second quarter, Mahomes gives a play-action fake and comes out of it looking for the big play. He attempts a bomb to wide receiver Mecole Hardman, who can't work around the ...https://brobible.com/sports/article/ben-roethlisberger-pittsburgh-steelers-retire/
Cal just please stop your mantra our receivers aren't good enough... They are, but Baker doesn't see them, or notice that they're wide freaking open, and forces the ball into double or triple coverage instead.... At a frequency that's below par for the very top QBs....
Tia is writing a book in this thread on how Baker is having serious problems with post snap adjustments. Oh, and he's missing a ton of throws high and wide? Because he's injured? Then take a seat, and let Keenum play.
Last three games... QBR 79, 53, 56. That sucks, FYI... That level of performance, and extend the guy at $35 million? You have got to be kidding. Make all the excuses for Baker you want to. It seems like Stefanski is going to ride his three legged horse right out of the playoffs.
Oh, and he's missing a ton of throws high and wide? Because he's injured? Then take a seat, and let Keenum play.
There, that part I like and agree with. And no, I won't stop with talking about the wr's.
The Browns most certainly know that Keenum will have the same problems that Baker has.
drops. Wide receivers that don't get open often. I think they have given up on HIggins. When he does see Njoku wide open in the end zone....Njoku drops the throw because he held it out there for the defender to slap the ball out of his hands.
I saw barfsonhislooger not see his wr/te all alone in the end zone. Do you want to say he is "average" ???
Peyton Manning threw 4 ints in a playoff game. Did he become "average" ??? NO. his receivers were outmatched, couldn't get open at that level of defensive competition.
I already posted where Tom Brady threw an incredibly dumb int just a few? games ago.
Did he all of a sudden become "average" ? NO.
Landry is fine. He gets two defenders a lot.
and Hoorta, it isn't just me saying it. BTW, I fully expect Jamarcus Bradley to see some serious playing time. Like Landry, he has some speed to get open, catches the ball like crazy. It doesn't do much good for Higgins and a couple of other wr's on the Browns to get open after the pocket starts to close. Bradley can get open quick, as can Landry.
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If this season has taught the 6-6 Cleveland Browns anything, it's that the team desperately needs help at wide receiver. The team's leading wide receiver has 356 yards and that is Jarvis Landry.The Future of the Browns' Wide Receiver Corps - Mesh Point ...
Thanks to the Browns' 41-16 victory, their season is back on track, and while there's work to do, the playoffs are still very much in play. But no matter how the rest of the season goes, the Browns' wide receiver corps is going to need some serious remodeling.
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