Baker Mayfield
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Please DON'T make me waste my time looking up what round a bunch of the Steelers All-Pro and HOF wide receivers got drafted in. Hoorta
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and another thing. JuJu was drafted in the second round. They got a steal in Claypool. But Claypool has been quieter by a lot, even had ZERO CATCHES just recently vs Tenn.
Want to know why? What is the difference? same qb.
It's because Claypool has a lot tougher time because JuJu is on INJURED RESERVE.
Again, all I'm saying, is that the Browns need a true, dynamic lead #1 wr. And generally, those come up in the first and second rounds. The Browns haven't drafted a wr in the first round since Corey Coleman. A star #1 wr requires a lot of attention - like Ja'marr Chase.
btw, even in some the fine work Tiam did - every single wr of the Browns was completely totally covered. When Landry finally got open over the middle, it was too late. Not a knock on Landry, but he gets attention that would ordinarily do to a #1 star receiver. If the Browns had a Ja'Marr chase, do you honestly think it would not help Landry?
Please DON'T make me waste my time looking up what round a bunch of the Steelers All-Pro and HOF wide receivers got drafted in. Hoorta
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and another thing. JuJu was drafted in the second round. They got a steal in Claypool. But Claypool has been quieter by a lot, even had ZERO CATCHES just recently vs Tenn.
Want to know why? What is the difference? same qb.
It's because Claypool has a lot tougher time because JuJu is on INJURED RESERVE.
Again, all I'm saying, is that the Browns need a true, dynamic lead #1 wr. And generally, those come up in the first and second rounds. The Browns haven't drafted a wr in the first round since Corey Coleman. A star #1 wr requires a lot of attention - like Ja'marr Chase.
btw, even in some the fine work Tiam did - every single wr of the Browns was completely totally covered. When Landry finally got open over the middle, it was too late. Not a knock on Landry, but he gets attention that would ordinarily do to a #1 star receiver. If the Browns had a Ja'Marr chase, do you honestly think it would not help Landry?
John Stallworth 4th round, Hines Ward 3rd round, Antonio Brown 6th round... Tia shows you don't know what you're talking about in regards to NFL "open".
Just stop... Because a WR is drafted high is no guarantee he's going to be great. Gee, I thought we did have a stud #1 wr in OBJ, and he did squat.
All the Browns need is for Baker to start playing like the #1 overall pick, which of late- he isn't... NFL.com had Joe at #4, Baker at #21.. There is no explaining away how limited the Browns' passing attack remains. Baker’s location is spotty, as he finished 2-of-9 for 21 yards, one score and three picks on throws over 10 yards Saturday, per Next Gen Stats. When Mayfield isn’t accurate, he’s not making up for it with any other attributes.
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Please DON'T make me waste my time looking up what round a bunch of the Steelers All-Pro and HOF wide receivers got drafted in. Hoorta
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and another thing. JuJu was drafted in the second round. They got a steal in Claypool. But Claypool has been quieter by a lot, even had ZERO CATCHES just recently vs Tenn.
Want to know why? What is the difference? same qb.
It's because Claypool has a lot tougher time because JuJu is on INJURED RESERVE.
Again, all I'm saying, is that the Browns need a true, dynamic lead #1 wr. And generally, those come up in the first and second rounds. The Browns haven't drafted a wr in the first round since Corey Coleman. A star #1 wr requires a lot of attention - like Ja'marr Chase.
btw, even in some the fine work Tiam did - every single wr of the Browns was completely totally covered. When Landry finally got open over the middle, it was too late. Not a knock on Landry, but he gets attention that would ordinarily do to a #1 star receiver. If the Browns had a Ja'Marr chase, do you honestly think it would not help Landry?
John Stallworth 4th round, Hines Ward 3rd round, Antonio Brown 6th round... Tia shows you don't know what you're talking about in regards to NFL "open".
Just stop... Because a WR is drafted high is no guarantee he's going to be great. Gee, I thought we did have a stud #1 wr in OBJ, and he did squat.
All the Browns need is for Baker to start playing like the #1 overall pick, which of late- he isn't... NFL.com had Joe at #4, Baker at #21.. There is no explaining away how limited the Browns' passing attack remains. Baker’s location is spotty, as he finished 2-of-9 for 21 yards, one score and three picks on throws over 10 yards Saturday, per Next Gen Stats. When Mayfield isn’t accurate, he’s not making up for it with any other attributes.
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Please DON'T make me waste my time looking up what round a bunch of the Steelers All-Pro and HOF wide receivers got drafted in. Hoorta
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and another thing. JuJu was drafted in the second round. They got a steal in Claypool. But Claypool has been quieter by a lot, even had ZERO CATCHES just recently vs Tenn.
Want to know why? What is the difference? same qb.
It's because Claypool has a lot tougher time because JuJu is on INJURED RESERVE.
Again, all I'm saying, is that the Browns need a true, dynamic lead #1 wr. And generally, those come up in the first and second rounds. The Browns haven't drafted a wr in the first round since Corey Coleman. A star #1 wr requires a lot of attention - like Ja'marr Chase.
btw, even in some the fine work Tiam did - every single wr of the Browns was completely totally covered. When Landry finally got open over the middle, it was too late. Not a knock on Landry, but he gets attention that would ordinarily do to a #1 star receiver. If the Browns had a Ja'Marr chase, do you honestly think it would not help Landry?
John Stallworth 4th round, Hines Ward 3rd round, Antonio Brown 6th round... Tia shows you don't know what you're talking about in regards to NFL "open".
Just stop... Because a WR is drafted high is no guarantee he's going to be great. Gee, I thought we did have a stud #1 wr in OBJ, and he did squat.
All the Browns need is for Baker to start playing like the #1 overall pick, which of late- he isn't... NFL.com had Joe at #4, Baker at #21.. There is no explaining away how limited the Browns' passing attack remains. Baker’s location is spotty, as he finished 2-of-9 for 21 yards, one score and three picks on throws over 10 yards Saturday, per Next Gen Stats. When Mayfield isn’t accurate, he’s not making up for it with any other attributes.
John Stallworth 4th round, Hines Ward 3rd round, Antonio Brown 6th round... Tia shows you don't know what you're talking about in regards to NFL "open".
Just stop... Because a WR is drafted high is no guarantee he's going to be great. Gee, I thought we did have a stud #1 wr in OBJ, and he did squat.
All the Browns need is for Baker to start playing like the #1 overall pick, which of late- he isn't... NFL.com had Joe at #4, Baker at #21.. There is no explaining away how limited the Browns' passing attack remains. Baker’s location is spotty, as he finished 2-of-9 for 21 yards, one score and three picks on throws over 10 yards Saturday, per Next Gen Stats. When Mayfield isn’t accurate, he’s not making up for it with any other attributes.
The only explanation I can think of is Baker's played with his injuries long enough that his throwing mechanics are messed up, which leads to messed up confidence and an inability to perform under pressure.
This doesn't get fixed this season, and we have to hope it gets fixed for next season because we don't have time to develop another rookie QB and I don't see a good veteran finding his way to Cleveland.
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Please DON'T make me waste my time looking up what round a bunch of the Steelers All-Pro and HOF wide receivers got drafted in. Hoorta
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and another thing. JuJu was drafted in the second round. They got a steal in Claypool. But Claypool has been quieter by a lot, even had ZERO CATCHES just recently vs Tenn.
Want to know why? What is the difference? same qb.
It's because Claypool has a lot tougher time because JuJu is on INJURED RESERVE.
Again, all I'm saying, is that the Browns need a true, dynamic lead #1 wr. And generally, those come up in the first and second rounds. The Browns haven't drafted a wr in the first round since Corey Coleman. A star #1 wr requires a lot of attention - like Ja'marr Chase.
btw, even in some the fine work Tiam did - every single wr of the Browns was completely totally covered. When Landry finally got open over the middle, it was too late. Not a knock on Landry, but he gets attention that would ordinarily do to a #1 star receiver. If the Browns had a Ja'Marr chase, do you honestly think it would not help Landry?
John Stallworth 4th round, Hines Ward 3rd round, Antonio Brown 6th round... Tia shows you don't know what you're talking about in regards to NFL "open".
Just stop... Because a WR is drafted high is no guarantee he's going to be great. Gee, I thought we did have a stud #1 wr in OBJ, and he did squat.
All the Browns need is for Baker to start playing like the #1 overall pick, which of late- he isn't... NFL.com had Joe at #4, Baker at #21.. There is no explaining away how limited the Browns' passing attack remains. Baker’s location is spotty, as he finished 2-of-9 for 21 yards, one score and three picks on throws over 10 yards Saturday, per Next Gen Stats. When Mayfield isn’t accurate, he’s not making up for it with any other attributes.
John Stallworth 4th round, Hines Ward 3rd round, Antonio Brown 6th round... Tia shows you don't know what you're talking about in regards to NFL "open".
Just stop... Because a WR is drafted high is no guarantee he's going to be great. Gee, I thought we did have a stud #1 wr in OBJ, and he did squat.
All the Browns need is for Baker to start playing like the #1 overall pick, which of late- he isn't... NFL.com had Joe at #4, Baker at #21.. There is no explaining away how limited the Browns' passing attack remains. Baker’s location is spotty, as he finished 2-of-9 for 21 yards, one score and three picks on throws over 10 yards Saturday, per Next Gen Stats. When Mayfield isn’t accurate, he’s not making up for it with any other attributes.
yeah, yeah, yeah, big deal. I note the first/second round thing as a pointer towards the attention paid to the wide receiver position in the draft.
Of course you can find gems later - I already alluded to that earlier. But later rounds - why do you think anybody drafts in the first round, if it's so easy to find star players later?
come on, man. Everybody knows that Tom Brady was a sixth round draft pick. You want to pick your qb in the sixth round?
I don't think so. Tia shows the flip side of the discussion, and you should consider stopping being his groupie - it makes you look foolish.
I already talked about the Cincy and ratbird wr's. High draft picks.
Steelers:
James Washington - 2nd Round 2018
Dionte Johnson - 3rd round 2019
Chase Claypool - 2nd Round 2020
now, you list the wr's the Browns have drafted the last three years and compare....golly, Hoorta, why didn't the squealers just wait til the later rounds? Think on it and try to be very quiet. you're wrong.
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John Stallworth 4th round, Hines Ward 3rd round, Antonio Brown 6th round... Tia shows you don't know what you're talking about in regards to NFL "open".
Just stop... Because a WR is drafted high is no guarantee he's going to be great. Gee, I thought we did have a stud #1 wr in OBJ, and he did squat.
All the Browns need is for Baker to start playing like the #1 overall pick, which of late- he isn't... NFL.com had Joe at #4, Baker at #21.. There is no explaining away how limited the Browns' passing attack remains. Baker’s location is spotty, as he finished 2-of-9 for 21 yards, one score and three picks on throws over 10 yards Saturday, per Next Gen Stats. When Mayfield isn’t accurate, he’s not making up for it with any other attributes.
yeah, yeah, yeah, big deal. I note the first/second round thing as a pointer towards the attention paid to the wide receiver position in the draft.
Of course you can find gems later - I already alluded to that earlier. But later rounds - why do you think anybody drafts in the first round, if it's so easy to find star players later?
come on, man. Everybody knows that Tom Brady was a sixth round draft pick. You want to pick your qb in the sixth round?
I don't think so. Tia shows the flip side of the discussion, and you should consider stopping being his groupie - it makes you look foolish.
I already talked about the Cincy and ratbird wr's. High draft picks.
Steelers:
James Washington - 2nd Round 2018
Dionte Johnson - 3rd round 2019
Chase Claypool - 2nd Round 2020
now, you list the wr's the Browns have drafted the last three years and compare....golly, Hoorta, why didn't the squealers just wait til the later rounds? Think on it and try to be very quiet. you're wrong.
now, you list the wr's the Browns have drafted the last three years and compare....golly, Hoorta, why didn't the squealers just wait til the later rounds? Think on it and try to be very quiet. you're wrong.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. You're using a variation of the chicken and eggs argument. So the eggs er, Browns WRs aren't good enough. They're not looking good enough because the chicken is making them look rotten. Who says so? The unbiased guys over on NFL.com. At the rate he's going, it's off to Tyson to make chicken McNuggets for McDonald's.
I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues. It's totally disgusting to me finding out today that some so called Browns fans have been sending Mayfield death threats.
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now, you list the wr's the Browns have drafted the last three years and compare....golly, Hoorta, why didn't the squealers just wait til the later rounds? Think on it and try to be very quiet. you're wrong.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. You're using a variation of the chicken and eggs argument. So the eggs er, Browns WRs aren't good enough. They're not looking good enough because the chicken is making them look rotten. Who says so? The unbiased guys over on NFL.com. At the rate he's going, it's off to Tyson to make chicken McNuggets for McDonald's.
I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues. It's totally disgusting to me finding out today that some so called Browns fans have been sending Mayfield death threats.
I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues. It's totally disgusting to me finding out today that some so called Browns fans have been sending Mayfield death threats.
Really a sad take on our society as a whole. Keyboard warriors.
2008-2017 Browns were 38-122. Since then, 7-8-1, 6-10, 11-5 (playoffs), 7-8 presently. .....yeah, better kill our QB who helped bring life into a woebegone franchise.
The internet is our friend & foe at the same time.
Happy New Year everybody, Go Browns
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now, you list the wr's the Browns have drafted the last three years and compare....golly, Hoorta, why didn't the squealers just wait til the later rounds? Think on it and try to be very quiet. you're wrong.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. You're using a variation of the chicken and eggs argument. So the eggs er, Browns WRs aren't good enough. They're not looking good enough because the chicken is making them look rotten. Who says so? The unbiased guys over on NFL.com. At the rate he's going, it's off to Tyson to make chicken McNuggets for McDonald's.
I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues. It's totally disgusting to me finding out today that some so called Browns fans have been sending Mayfield death threats.
. I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues.
Your opinion. Rank your first to worst AFCN's QB's.
I struggle with 3 and 4, so I'll go with whatever you say lol!
1. Burrow
2. Ben
3.
4.
Although I have to admit I found this funny when searching the internets..lol

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now, you list the wr's the Browns have drafted the last three years and compare....golly, Hoorta, why didn't the squealers just wait til the later rounds? Think on it and try to be very quiet. you're wrong.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. You're using a variation of the chicken and eggs argument. So the eggs er, Browns WRs aren't good enough. They're not looking good enough because the chicken is making them look rotten. Who says so? The unbiased guys over on NFL.com. At the rate he's going, it's off to Tyson to make chicken McNuggets for McDonald's.
I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues. It's totally disgusting to me finding out today that some so called Browns fans have been sending Mayfield death threats.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. You're using a variation of the chicken and eggs argument. So the eggs er, Browns WRs aren't good enough. They're not looking good enough because the chicken is making them look rotten. Who says so? The unbiased guys over on NFL.com. At the rate he's going, it's off to Tyson to make chicken McNuggets for McDonald's.
I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues. It's totally disgusting to me finding out today that some so called Browns fans have been sending Mayfield death threats.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. No, I've posted different opinions of football nerds who have said the same thing. I challenged you to list the wr's the Browns have drafted over the last three years, and compare with the current squealers wr's. Or choose the ratbirds. or choose the bengals.
DO IT. You can't handle the truth. And no, you and Tiam seem to think a super qb could come in and make our wr's get open. I say baloney to point. I even showed you that even Tom Brady's stats plummet to average without Gronk.
It's a team game. All the pieces should be in place.
I'll ask again. WHY did Brady's stats plummet without Gronk? Answer it. Because you and Tiam believe that a great qb "raises the level of play" and makes his receivers great.
Why, then, did Brady want Gronk to follow him?
of course there are gems later in the draft. But it's iffy, and the alleged stars go earlier.
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. I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues.
Your opinion. Rank your first to worst AFCN's QB's.
I struggle with 3 and 4, so I'll go with whatever you say lol!
1. Burrow
2. Ben
3.
4.
Although I have to admit I found this funny when searching the internets..lol

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Just can't quit. You're wrong. You're using a variation of the chicken and eggs argument. So the eggs er, Browns WRs aren't good enough. They're not looking good enough because the chicken is making them look rotten. Who says so? The unbiased guys over on NFL.com. At the rate he's going, it's off to Tyson to make chicken McNuggets for McDonald's.
I'll grant Baker is hurt, and that could be part of the problem, but it's not his only issues. It's totally disgusting to me finding out today that some so called Browns fans have been sending Mayfield death threats.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. No, I've posted different opinions of football nerds who have said the same thing. I challenged you to list the wr's the Browns have drafted over the last three years, and compare with the current squealers wr's. Or choose the ratbirds. or choose the bengals.
DO IT. You can't handle the truth. And no, you and Tiam seem to think a super qb could come in and make our wr's get open. I say baloney to point. I even showed you that even Tom Brady's stats plummet to average without Gronk.
It's a team game. All the pieces should be in place.
I'll ask again. WHY did Brady's stats plummet without Gronk? Answer it. Because you and Tiam believe that a great qb "raises the level of play" and makes his receivers great.
Why, then, did Brady want Gronk to follow him?
of course there are gems later in the draft. But it's iffy, and the alleged stars go earlier.
Just can't quit. You're wrong. No, I've posted different opinions of football nerds who have said the same thing. I challenged you to list the wr's the Browns have drafted over the last three years, and compare with the current squealers wr's. Or choose the ratbirds. or choose the bengals.
DO IT. You can't handle the truth. And no, you and Tiam seem to think a super qb could come in and make our wr's get open. I say baloney to point. I even showed you that even Tom Brady's stats plummet to average without Gronk.
It's a team game. All the pieces should be in place.
I'll ask again. WHY did Brady's stats plummet without Gronk? Answer it. Because you and Tiam believe that a great qb "raises the level of play" and makes his receivers great.
Why, then, did Brady want Gronk to follow him?
of course there are gems later in the draft. But it's iffy, and the alleged stars go earlier.
Whataboutism at it's finest. Great- you win, I'm done countering your crap.
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Just can't quit. You're wrong. No, I've posted different opinions of football nerds who have said the same thing. I challenged you to list the wr's the Browns have drafted over the last three years, and compare with the current squealers wr's. Or choose the ratbirds. or choose the bengals.
DO IT. You can't handle the truth. And no, you and Tiam seem to think a super qb could come in and make our wr's get open. I say baloney to point. I even showed you that even Tom Brady's stats plummet to average without Gronk.
It's a team game. All the pieces should be in place.
I'll ask again. WHY did Brady's stats plummet without Gronk? Answer it. Because you and Tiam believe that a great qb "raises the level of play" and makes his receivers great.
Why, then, did Brady want Gronk to follow him?
of course there are gems later in the draft. But it's iffy, and the alleged stars go earlier.
Whataboutism at it's finest. Great- you win, I'm done countering your crap.
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Just can't quit. You're wrong. No, I've posted different opinions of football nerds who have said the same thing. I challenged you to list the wr's the Browns have drafted over the last three years, and compare with the current squealers wr's. Or choose the ratbirds. or choose the bengals.
DO IT. You can't handle the truth. And no, you and Tiam seem to think a super qb could come in and make our wr's get open. I say baloney to point. I even showed you that even Tom Brady's stats plummet to average without Gronk.
It's a team game. All the pieces should be in place.
I'll ask again. WHY did Brady's stats plummet without Gronk? Answer it. Because you and Tiam believe that a great qb "raises the level of play" and makes his receivers great.
Why, then, did Brady want Gronk to follow him?
of course there are gems later in the draft. But it's iffy, and the alleged stars go earlier.
Whataboutism at it's finest. Great- you win, I'm done countering your crap.
Whataboutism at it's finest. Great- you win, I'm done countering your crap.
You can never admit you don't know what you're talking about- when other posters (Tia) gives you the Alice's Restaurant circles and arrows treatment on multiple occasions to show how you're dead wrong. Almost everything you've posted has been debunked, in some cases- at least three times- Yet you persist in claiming bullshit.
Go claim an outlier that Brady had a bad game when he didn't have Gronk. You're great at citing outliers and then trying to claim the exception proves the rule.
This year, Baker has failed to improve his surrounding cast, and has choked in the 4th quarter several times. Great QBs elevate the play of their surrounding cast, Mayfield gets a big FAIL there. FACT. It was pointed out to you Rodgers is 10-1 when he didn't have Devonte Adams in the lineup, so your "high draft pick" WR claim doesn't carry much weight. In case you've forgotten, Jarvis Landry has made several Pro Bowls- he's not exactly a bum.
Wah, wah... If only Baker had a super stud WR this season like Jamar Chase or Devonte Adams- damn, we'd be Super Bowl bound. Bullshit. Not if he's throwing the ball 10 feet over their heads. Seems his accuracy has gone to hell. And if Baker needs everything around him to be absolutely perfect for him to succeed, he's just flat out never going to be quite good enough- because in the NFL- that's a fantasy.
And as to where the Browns receivers were drafted? Apparently you can't get it through your thick head... It doesn't matter where they were drafted, if the quarterback trying to throw them the ball is playing like a pile of crap.
Please go back over to the Poli Board where you can argue in circles to your hearts content. Guess I should get ready for more of the Cal spin cycle. LOL
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Just to toss this out there before I check out - Brady won a superbowl without Gronk. Down 28-3 no less. Throwing for damn near 5 bills in that game.
So... yeah. Brady can still get it done without Gronk.
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1. Thank you for smarting off to yourself. Yes, Hoorta (you) can never admit you are wrong. LOL LOL LOL
2. See #1. LOL LOL LOL
3. You didn't read the article, oh arrogant wannabe alpha wonkie. The stats were over a period of time. Not one game. Baker played some great games without Gronk last year, too. LOL LOL. He also played some great games last year without Ja'Marr Chase.
Just think how good he could be with those players.
and Baker shouldn't be playing, he's hurt. He won't be hurt next year, whiney boy.
4. You got your ass handed to you with your stupid crap over there on that board.
5. Go ahead. Make a list of wr's the Browns have, and compare them to the wr's the other AFC N teams have.
And I never said Baker was playing well since he's been hurt.
6. Tia doesn't need you to be his nanny.
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Just to toss this out there before I check out - Brady won a superbowl without Gronk. Down 28-3 no less. Throwing for damn near 5 bills in that game.
So... yeah. Brady can still get it done without Gronk.
Just to toss this out there before I check out - Brady won a superbowl without Gronk. Down 28-3 no less. Throwing for damn near 5 bills in that game.
So... yeah. Brady can still get it done without Gronk.
It was clearly shown that over a period of time, his stats plummeted without Gronk. Why do you think he desperately wanted Gronk to come to Tampa Bay?
Take your time. We'll wait. Want to count up the # of games Brady WON with Gronk? didn't think so.
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1. Thank you for smarting off to yourself. Yes, Hoorta (you) can never admit you are wrong. LOL LOL LOL
2. See #1. LOL LOL LOL
3. You didn't read the article, oh arrogant wannabe alpha wonkie. The stats were over a period of time. Not one game. Baker played some great games without Gronk last year, too. LOL LOL. He also played some great games last year without Ja'Marr Chase.
Just think how good he could be with those players.
and Baker shouldn't be playing, he's hurt. He won't be hurt next year, whiney boy.
4. You got your ass handed to you with your stupid crap over there on that board.
5. Go ahead. Make a list of wr's the Browns have, and compare them to the wr's the other AFC N teams have.
And I never said Baker was playing well since he's been hurt.
6. Tia doesn't need you to be his nanny.
5. Go ahead. Make a list of wr's the Browns have, and compare them to the wr's the other AFC N teams have.
And I never said Baker was playing well since he's been hurt.
6. Tia doesn't need you to be his nanny.
I'll only reply this one last time to your broken record Cal...Blah. blah, blah... Want to repeat something meaningless for the 10th time? You're about the only one here with that opinion. Repeating it a dozen times doesn't make it correct. It absolutely doesn't matter about the Browns wrs. The talent is there.. but not if the one thing we agree on- Baker's injury is seriously affection his performance. I see plenty of Bengals football.. And let me tell you talent wise, their Higgins and Boyd are no no better than our Higgins and DPJ. The difference is Joe sees when they're open, and can accurately get them the ball. Uzomah?
Try to follow along... the Browns are running a tight end heavy offense. Uzomah can't hold a candle to Hooper (the guy we made the highest paid TE in the NFL when we signed him) or Dave Njoku there's your first round pick for you. I'll let you look up how many Pro Bowls Jarvis Landry has been nominated for.
So there's the Browns problem in a nutshell... Deficient Quarterback play by Baker.
Regarding Tia, you're too far down in your rabbit hole to realize when another poster is ripping your ass off, and handing it back to you.
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5. Go ahead. Make a list of wr's the Browns have, and compare them to the wr's the other AFC N teams have.
And I never said Baker was playing well since he's been hurt.
6. Tia doesn't need you to be his nanny.
I'll only reply this one last time to your broken record Cal...Blah. blah, blah... Want to repeat something meaningless for the 10th time? You're about the only one here with that opinion. Repeating it a dozen times doesn't make it correct. It absolutely doesn't matter about the Browns wrs. The talent is there.. but not if the one thing we agree on- Baker's injury is seriously affection his performance. I see plenty of Bengals football.. And let me tell you talent wise, their Higgins and Boyd are no no better than our Higgins and DPJ. The difference is Joe sees when they're open, and can accurately get them the ball. Uzomah?
Try to follow along... the Browns are running a tight end heavy offense. Uzomah can't hold a candle to Hooper (the guy we made the highest paid TE in the NFL when we signed him) or Dave Njoku there's your first round pick for you. I'll let you look up how many Pro Bowls Jarvis Landry has been nominated for.
So there's the Browns problem in a nutshell... Deficient Quarterback play by Baker.
Regarding Tia, you're too far down in your rabbit hole to realize when another poster is ripping your ass off, and handing it back to you.
I'll only reply this one last time to your broken record Cal...Blah. blah, blah... Want to repeat something meaningless for the 10th time? You're about the only one here with that opinion. Repeating it a dozen times doesn't make it correct. It absolutely doesn't matter about the Browns wrs. The talent is there.. but not if the one thing we agree on- Baker's injury is seriously affection his performance. I see plenty of Bengals football.. And let me tell you talent wise, their Higgins and Boyd are no no better than our Higgins and DPJ. The difference is Joe sees when they're open, and can accurately get them the ball. Uzomah?
Try to follow along... the Browns are running a tight end heavy offense. Uzomah can't hold a candle to Hooper (the guy we made the highest paid TE in the NFL when we signed him) or Dave Njoku there's your first round pick for you. I'll let you look up how many Pro Bowls Jarvis Landry has been nominated for.
So there's the Browns problem in a nutshell... Deficient Quarterback play by Baker.
Regarding Tia, you're too far down in your rabbit hole to realize when another poster is ripping your ass off, and handing it back to you.
Did you even bother to watch the Matt Hasselbeck video I posted?... Nope.. You glossed right through it... He had a similar injury and will tell you flat out the Harness fucks up your accuracy and foot work.... So I give Baker the remainder of his contract before I'm ready to part ways...
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5. Go ahead. Make a list of wr's the Browns have, and compare them to the wr's the other AFC N teams have.
And I never said Baker was playing well since he's been hurt.
6. Tia doesn't need you to be his nanny.
I'll only reply this one last time to your broken record Cal...Blah. blah, blah... Want to repeat something meaningless for the 10th time? You're about the only one here with that opinion. Repeating it a dozen times doesn't make it correct. It absolutely doesn't matter about the Browns wrs. The talent is there.. but not if the one thing we agree on- Baker's injury is seriously affection his performance. I see plenty of Bengals football.. And let me tell you talent wise, their Higgins and Boyd are no no better than our Higgins and DPJ. The difference is Joe sees when they're open, and can accurately get them the ball. Uzomah?
Try to follow along... the Browns are running a tight end heavy offense. Uzomah can't hold a candle to Hooper (the guy we made the highest paid TE in the NFL when we signed him) or Dave Njoku there's your first round pick for you. I'll let you look up how many Pro Bowls Jarvis Landry has been nominated for.
So there's the Browns problem in a nutshell... Deficient Quarterback play by Baker.
Regarding Tia, you're too far down in your rabbit hole to realize when another poster is ripping your ass off, and handing it back to you.
I'll only reply this one last time to your broken record Cal...Blah. blah, blah... Want to repeat something meaningless for the 10th time? You're about the only one here with that opinion. Repeating it a dozen times doesn't make it correct. It absolutely doesn't matter about the Browns wrs. The talent is there.. but not if the one thing we agree on- Baker's injury is seriously affection his performance. I see plenty of Bengals football.. And let me tell you talent wise, their Higgins and Boyd are no no better than our Higgins and DPJ. The difference is Joe sees when they're open, and can accurately get them the ball. Uzomah?
Try to follow along... the Browns are running a tight end heavy offense. Uzomah can't hold a candle to Hooper (the guy we made the highest paid TE in theNFL when we signed him) or Dave Njoku there's your first round pick for you. I'll let you look up how many Pro Bowls Jarvis Landry has been nominated for. So there's the Browns problem in a nutshell... Deficient Quarterback play by Baker. Regarding Tia, you're too far down in your rabbit hole to realize when another poster is ripping your ass off, and handing it back to you.
I'll only reply this one last time to your broken record Hoorta..Blah. blah, blah... You really miss a lot. Or, you deliberately cherry pick part of a discussion - you do the same dumb thing on the other forum.
You want to compare Higgins and Boyd with HIggins and Peoples-Jones? That's fine. I like it. Here is the problem:
Why the hell do you think the Bengals drafted Ja'Marr Chase, FIFTH OVERALL LAST YEAR IF THEY ALREADY HAD HIGGINS AND BOYD?
I'll tell you why, but you don't listen. You just don't want to. They drafted Chase to be a #1 wr, and Higgins and Boyd would have a lot less defensive pressure on them. He's the STAR the Browns don't have. There is nobody to take pressure off Landry and Peoples-Jones. It's a HELL OF A LOT EASIER for you #2 and #3 to GET OPEN when they have a STAR #1 defenses have to contend with. Can you hear me now? Denying it is just dimwitted.
The Browns don't have a #1. So, keep denying it, but can you hear me now? I don't think Tiam can deny the affect that Ja'Marr Chase has on the Bengals passing game. So, you just got your ass handed to you again. Maybe you are one of a few that don't get it.
Once pouty fake injury OBJ left the Browns, the passing defense only had to concentrate on Landry and Peoples-Jones, making the Browns suffer, and WITH BAKER's INJURY, performance suffered for both reasons. Having a star #1 makes a huge difference.
BTW, I think the Browns run a heavy TE offense because they have a running game that helps with TE blocking, and to try to have a passing option to try to take pressure off Landry and Peoples-Jones- but that is not as dynamic at all - compared to having a star #1.
You're afraid to answer questions - you want me to send you a mexican hat so you can dance around it?
I still look for a Browns win - if the refs aren't crooked.
At least dirtbag Jeff Triplett retired a while back.
https://www.westernjournal.com/nfls-famous-controversial-referees-retiring/
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