Baker Mayfield
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Zombo said:
He had a 102.4 rating today, with one arm, his two starting tackles out, his best wr out, and his best running back out.
And we've given up 84 points in 2 weeks.
So, maybe take a different angle on this.
Z
Nope. It's football. There will always be injuries. Every year, every team. The defense won't always play like a top 10 defense. He turned the ball over 3 times, held onto the ball way too long like he's done all his career, and continues to make rookie mistakes.
My angle is Baker is not the answer, believe whatever you want.
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Zombo said:
He had a 102.4 rating today, with one arm, his two starting tackles out, his best wr out, and his best running back out.
And we've given up 84 points in 2 weeks.
So, maybe take a different angle on this.
Z
Nope. It's football. There will always be injuries. Every year, every team. The defense won't always play like a top 10 defense. He turned the ball over 3 times, held onto the ball way too long like he's done all his career, and continues to make rookie mistakes.
My angle is Baker is not the answer, believe whatever you want.
Nope. It's football. There will always be injuries. Every year, every team. The defense won't always play like a top 10 defense. He turned the ball over 3 times, held onto the ball way too long like he's done all his career, and continues to make rookie mistakes.
My angle is Baker is not the answer, believe whatever you want.
Yes, there will always be injuries, but when your two starting tackles are out, well that's an anomaly.
Last season, the Browns offense pretty much was injury free except for OBJ, & Mayfield was fantastic.
There's no way I'd let Baker go if I was Andrew Berry. He, Jarvis, & Myles are 3 players who dragged the Browns out of the doldrums.
I have no idea what the price tag will be on Baker. My guess is another hungry QB team would throw money at him.
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Zombo said:
He had a 102.4 rating today, with one arm, his two starting tackles out, his best wr out, and his best running back out.
And we've given up 84 points in 2 weeks.
So, maybe take a different angle on this.
Z
QBR is garbage, we've been through this.
One arm? Then Keenum should play, I suggested as much when he injured his shoulder. Remember we had this chat last week and you said "He'll defeat his injury like his opponent". Defeat, Z... like having half your arm being useless is somehow the colonists beating the British. You won't find me arguing about the rest of the personnel, but Bakers decision making, when given the opportunity to make a smart play or a play that wouldn't hurt the team, was incredibly subpar. So while his left arm might be bad, his mind shouldn't be.
You also said "he'll earn your respect back". Baker never didn't have my respect, but you take my observations as overly critical as opposed to what they are - in depth offerings.
Bakers average depth of target is slowly decreasing, it started happening before his injury. The line play hasn't been great, but Baker hasn't been good enough to compensate either. This team is in a funky combination of issues with health and quality of play. I don't see any one player being the sole cause, but the largest microscope will always be put on the guy that always has the ball in his hands.
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Zombo said:
He had a 102.4 rating today, with one arm, his two starting tackles out, his best wr out, and his best running back out.
And we've given up 84 points in 2 weeks.
So, maybe take a different angle on this.
Z
QBR is garbage, we've been through this.
One arm? Then Keenum should play, I suggested as much when he injured his shoulder. Remember we had this chat last week and you said "He'll defeat his injury like his opponent". Defeat, Z... like having half your arm being useless is somehow the colonists beating the British. You won't find me arguing about the rest of the personnel, but Bakers decision making, when given the opportunity to make a smart play or a play that wouldn't hurt the team, was incredibly subpar. So while his left arm might be bad, his mind shouldn't be.
You also said "he'll earn your respect back". Baker never didn't have my respect, but you take my observations as overly critical as opposed to what they are - in depth offerings.
Bakers average depth of target is slowly decreasing, it started happening before his injury. The line play hasn't been great, but Baker hasn't been good enough to compensate either. This team is in a funky combination of issues with health and quality of play. I don't see any one player being the sole cause, but the largest microscope will always be put on the guy that always has the ball in his hands.
QBR is garbage, we've been through this.
One arm? Then Keenum should play, I suggested as much when he injured his shoulder. Remember we had this chat last week and you said "He'll defeat his injury like his opponent". Defeat, Z... like having half your arm being useless is somehow the colonists beating the British. You won't find me arguing about the rest of the personnel, but Bakers decision making, when given the opportunity to make a smart play or a play that wouldn't hurt the team, was incredibly subpar. So while his left arm might be bad, his mind shouldn't be.
You also said "he'll earn your respect back". Baker never didn't have my respect, but you take my observations as overly critical as opposed to what they are - in depth offerings.
Bakers average depth of target is slowly decreasing, it started happening before his injury. The line play hasn't been great, but Baker hasn't been good enough to compensate either. This team is in a funky combination of issues with health and quality of play. I don't see any one player being the sole cause, but the largest microscope will always be put on the guy that always has the ball in his hands.
Yep, if your line isn't giving you time, you have to make quicker decisions. So we just can stop using "he's hurt" as an excuse. If the "hurt" is effecting his play that much- sit him.
Baker hasn't been right for weeks, and could it be our "Coach of the Year" has been figured out?
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Mrs. Baker Mayfield dropped this gem on the Twitters Monday afternoon...
Mrs. Baker Mayfield dropped this gem on the Twitters Monday afternoon...
She mentions "hate" twice. Criticism would have been the better word.
Why does criticism of a player always translate to "hate"? Because it shifts fault away from Baker and makes the one doing the "hating" the bad guy.
Baker never asks for recognition??
No shit. How noble of him. I don't know of any player that openly asks for recognition. Recognition is earned.
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Baker SUCKS. Time to get a real QB before our SB windows closes for good. DO not pay him what he thinks he's worth. Meanwhile, Stefanieowski better start calling better plays and fire Joe Woods. Follow my advice and we win multiple Super Bowls.
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Baker SUCKS. Time to get a real QB before our SB windows closes for good. DO not pay him what he thinks he's worth. Meanwhile, Stefanieowski better start calling better plays and fire Joe Woods. Follow my advice and we win multiple Super Bowls.
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QBR is garbage, we've been through this.
One arm? Then Keenum should play, I suggested as much when he injured his shoulder. Remember we had this chat last week and you said "He'll defeat his injury like his opponent". Defeat, Z... like having half your arm being useless is somehow the colonists beating the British. You won't find me arguing about the rest of the personnel, but Bakers decision making, when given the opportunity to make a smart play or a play that wouldn't hurt the team, was incredibly subpar. So while his left arm might be bad, his mind shouldn't be.
You also said "he'll earn your respect back". Baker never didn't have my respect, but you take my observations as overly critical as opposed to what they are - in depth offerings.
Bakers average depth of target is slowly decreasing, it started happening before his injury. The line play hasn't been great, but Baker hasn't been good enough to compensate either. This team is in a funky combination of issues with health and quality of play. I don't see any one player being the sole cause, but the largest microscope will always be put on the guy that always has the ball in his hands.
Yep, if your line isn't giving you time, you have to make quicker decisions. So we just can stop using "he's hurt" as an excuse. If the "hurt" is effecting his play that much- sit him.
Baker hasn't been right for weeks, and could it be our "Coach of the Year" has been figured out?
Yep, if your line isn't giving you time, you have to make quicker decisions. So we just can stop using "he's hurt" as an excuse. If the "hurt" is effecting his play that much- sit him.
Baker hasn't been right for weeks, and could it be our "Coach of the Year" has been figured out?
i do know our coach of the defense has been figured out.....reason....just about everyone on this board was complaining about the injjury bug.when the d was not playing well...especially llast yr...well this yr we had the players back and they still suck....also, the money spent and the draft were supposed to make this team the missing part that was going to make us a sb contender...phwaaaaat...yeah right....so to me it comes down to the coach and his crew.....they suck big time....i cannot put this totally on the offense alone...
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what do we think of this take?
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Baker SUCKS. Time to get a real QB before our SB windows closes for good. DO not pay him what he thinks he's worth. Meanwhile, Stefanieowski better start calling better plays and fire Joe Woods. Follow my advice and we win multiple Super Bowls.
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Baker definitely played well.
he usually plays well but he is not an elite qb....he's had numerous chances dating back to the divisional playoff game against the chiefs to make a statement and still has not.....maybe it changes....odell will be gone at the trading deadline by the way....hope he goes to the packers...don't want to see brady win another ring....the pack getting odell will put them in pretty damn good position....odell i think is still a top 5 reciever...just not with the browns...don't know what the issue or issues are but it ain't gonna work here with him....its quite obvious...
he usually plays well but he is not an elite qb
Which is the case in about 32 NFL towns every week. Elite don't grow on trees.
So you surround him with all you can (which we've still yet to do) and.... soldier on.
Said it a couple days ago... time to shut BAKER down.... get him fixed and let him heal so we can at least evaluate his repair.
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he usually plays well but he is not an elite qb
Which is the case in about 32 NFL towns every week. Elite don't grow on trees.
So you surround him with all you can (which we've still yet to do) and.... soldier on.
Said it a couple days ago... time to shut BAKER down.... get him fixed and let him heal so we can at least evaluate his repair.
Which is the case in about 32 NFL towns every week. Elite don't grow on trees.
So you surround him with all you can (which we've still yet to do) and.... soldier on.
Said it a couple days ago... time to shut BAKER down.... get him fixed and let him heal so we can at least evaluate his repair.
I totally agree with this...
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he usually plays well but he is not an elite qb
Which is the case in about 32 NFL towns every week. Elite don't grow on trees.
So you surround him with all you can (which we've still yet to do) and.... soldier on.
Said it a couple days ago... time to shut BAKER down.... get him fixed and let him heal so we can at least evaluate his repair.
Which is the case in about 32 NFL towns every week. Elite don't grow on trees.
So you surround him with all you can (which we've still yet to do) and.... soldier on.
Said it a couple days ago... time to shut BAKER down.... get him fixed and let him heal so we can at least evaluate his repair.
You'll be happy to know the majority 60% of the WKNR poll agrees with you. With the Thursday night game and the mini-bye, it's obvious what the Browns should do. That shoulder is never going to be "right" for the rest of the season. Off season surgery is almost a foregone conclusion.
We can beat Denver with Keenum behind center- IF Chubb and Landry are healed up enough to play.
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Which is the case in about 32 NFL towns every week. Elite don't grow on trees.
So you surround him with all you can (which we've still yet to do) and.... soldier on.
Said it a couple days ago... time to shut BAKER down.... get him fixed and let him heal so we can at least evaluate his repair.
You'll be happy to know the majority 60% of the WKNR poll agrees with you. With the Thursday night game and the mini-bye, it's obvious what the Browns should do. That shoulder is never going to be "right" for the rest of the season. Off season surgery is almost a foregone conclusion.
We can beat Denver with Keenum behind center- IF Chubb and Landry are healed up enough to play.
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Baker SUCKS. Time to get a real QB before our SB windows closes for good. DO not pay him what he thinks he's worth. Meanwhile, Stefanieowski better start calling better plays and fire Joe Woods. Follow my advice and we win multiple Super Bowls.
Baker SUCKS. Time to get a real QB before our SB windows closes for good. DO not pay him what he thinks he's worth. Meanwhile, Stefanieowski better start calling better plays and fire Joe Woods. Follow my advice and we win multiple Super Bowls.
fucking joe woods......now you got my blood pressure on the rise......thanks for that....but it is true....the guy sucks at his job...
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Which is the case in about 32 NFL towns every week. Elite don't grow on trees.
So you surround him with all you can (which we've still yet to do) and.... soldier on.
Said it a couple days ago... time to shut BAKER down.... get him fixed and let him heal so we can at least evaluate his repair.
You'll be happy to know the majority 60% of the WKNR poll agrees with you. With the Thursday night game and the mini-bye, it's obvious what the Browns should do. That shoulder is never going to be "right" for the rest of the season. Off season surgery is almost a foregone conclusion.
We can beat Denver with Keenum behind center- IF Chubb and Landry are healed up enough to play.
You'll be happy to know the majority 60% of the WKNR poll agrees with you. With the Thursday night game and the mini-bye, it's obvious what the Browns should do. That shoulder is never going to be "right" for the rest of the season. Off season surgery is almost a foregone conclusion.
We can beat Denver with Keenum behind center- IF Chubb and Landry are healed up enough to play.
don't think chubb is playing....keenum will probably end up playing and he may be carted off the field by time the game is over...denver probably wins this one and puts the browns out of its misery....hey, this is cleveland browns football...don't you know this by now......whatever can go wrong, will go wrong...
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You'll be happy to know the majority 60% of the WKNR poll agrees with you. With the Thursday night game and the mini-bye, it's obvious what the Browns should do. That shoulder is never going to be "right" for the rest of the season. Off season surgery is almost a foregone conclusion.
We can beat Denver with Keenum behind center- IF Chubb and Landry are healed up enough to play.
don't think chubb is playing....keenum will probably end up playing and he may be carted off the field by time the game is over...denver probably wins this one and puts the browns out of its misery....hey, this is cleveland browns football...don't you know this by now......whatever can go wrong, will go wrong...
don't think chubb is playing....keenum will probably end up playing and he may be carted off the field by time the game is over...denver probably wins this one and puts the browns out of its misery....hey, this is cleveland browns football...don't you know this by now......whatever can go wrong, will go wrong...
yeah... Keep the negative attitude going... That's a LOSER mentality..
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Zombo said:
Baker's labrum is completely torn, he's playing, suck it.
Z
You'd probably want him out there if he had a broken arm.
DON'T try and minimize it Z. It's a significant injury that will take 4-6 weeks to heal after off season surgery, and another 6 weeks of rehab to be back to normal.
If it was his throwing shoulder- he'd be done for the year.
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I have a concern with Stef now. Baker has a big personality, and you have to be able to deliver bad news - he shouldn't be playing.
The oline isn't going to be at full strength, you're facing a better pass rush than last week and Baker isn't going to be magically healed. It would take a minor miracle to have his accuracy improved from last week along with his penchant for holding onto the ball.
I just don't see this as a winning recipe without severely cutting down the playbook.
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