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    https://twitter.com/ctom46/status/1465784433953456139?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1465784433953456139%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.foxnews.com/media/science-guy-bill-nye-roasted-tiktok-video

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      It would absolutely be a good idea to have an infrastructure bill if it were really an infrastructure bill. Sure I know there's probably a few bucks in this slush fund that go for actual infrastructure,  Just like a penny or 2 from every dollar that goes to a crooked charity actually winds up in the hands of those it's supposed to benefit. But way way way way too much of it is driven by the gas guzzling free shit express.

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        It would absolutely be a good idea to have an infrastructure bill if it were really an infrastructure bill. Sure I know there's probably a few bucks in this slush fund that go for actual infrastructure,  Just like a penny or 2 from every dollar that goes to a crooked charity actually winds up in the hands of those it's supposed to benefit. But way way way way too much of it is driven by the gas guzzling free shit express.

        WSS

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        @westside-steve said:

        It would absolutely be a good idea to have an infrastructure bill if it were really an infrastructure bill. Sure I know there's probably a few bucks in this slush fund that go for actual infrastructure,  Just like a penny or 2 from every dollar that goes to a crooked charity actually winds up in the hands of those it's supposed to benefit. But way way way way too much of it is driven by the gas guzzling free shit express.

        WSS

        https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

        What's your biggest concern?

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          @westside-steve said:

          It would absolutely be a good idea to have an infrastructure bill if it were really an infrastructure bill. Sure I know there's probably a few bucks in this slush fund that go for actual infrastructure,  Just like a penny or 2 from every dollar that goes to a crooked charity actually winds up in the hands of those it's supposed to benefit. But way way way way too much of it is driven by the gas guzzling free shit express.

          WSS

          https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

          What's your biggest concern?

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          @mld-woody said:

          https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

          What's your biggest concern?

          Wasted spending...inflation, shortages, more government control...Biden thinks it's a good idea!

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            @westside-steve said:

            It would absolutely be a good idea to have an infrastructure bill if it were really an infrastructure bill. Sure I know there's probably a few bucks in this slush fund that go for actual infrastructure,  Just like a penny or 2 from every dollar that goes to a crooked charity actually winds up in the hands of those it's supposed to benefit. But way way way way too much of it is driven by the gas guzzling free shit express.

            WSS

            https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

            What's your biggest concern?

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            @mld-woody said:

            https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

            What's your biggest concern?

             Probably the same as yours would be if I posted a link as vague as this one.  And I'm not picking on you just saying that those are some pretty general numbers there.

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              I like the $?50,000,000,000 for 'climate change'.........?

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                @mld-woody said:

                https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

                What's your biggest concern?

                 Probably the same as yours would be if I posted a link as vague as this one.  And I'm not picking on you just saying that those are some pretty general numbers there.

                WSS 

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                 Probably the same as yours would be if I posted a link as vague as this one.  And I'm not picking on you just saying that those are some pretty general numbers there.

                WSS 

                Then what is your concern using a link of your own?

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                  @westside-steve said:

                   Probably the same as yours would be if I posted a link as vague as this one.  And I'm not picking on you just saying that those are some pretty general numbers there.

                  WSS 

                  Then what is your concern using a link of your own?

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Then what is your concern using a link of your own?

                   I didn't really find any links that I trust or were more specific than yours.

                   But if I'd have posted a similar link from some site site you deemed biased I'm sure you would demand specifics.

                   If you trust the people that wrote it to have eliminated every penny of bloat  I guess there's nothing in that link that pruse you wrong. Or right.

                  https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/4-big-problems-bidens-infrastructure-plan

                  WSS 

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                    But regardless of posting sites nothing cites I don't trust any program run by the government to be run efficiently and without waste without graft without giveaways…

                     Not the military not the United Way not the Red Cross Even though those aren't all government organizations but you get the idea. Maybe.

                     The social engineering is just a side dish.

                    https://drexel.edu/nowak-lab/publications/newsletters/How Federal Infrastructure Spending Can Close the Racial Wealth Gap/

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      It would absolutely be a good idea to have an infrastructure bill if it were really an infrastructure bill. Sure I know there's probably a few bucks in this slush fund that go for actual infrastructure,  Just like a penny or 2 from every dollar that goes to a crooked charity actually winds up in the hands of those it's supposed to benefit. But way way way way too much of it is driven by the gas guzzling free shit express.

                      WSS

                      https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

                      What's your biggest concern?

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      https://www.ey.com/en_us/infrastructure-investment-and-jobs-act?WT.mc_id=10816678&AA.tsrc=paidsearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0U6--kitQmhp9HmUBhrLOgSx4o0ygCqt5T9RRlFdeS0d1Yhe1_MkgQaAsjbEALw_wcB

                      What's your biggest concern?

                      50 BILLION for global warming?

                      and 21 BILLION for "environmental spending"

                      duplicate much?

                      just those two huge allotments end up being a slush fund that

                      will buy more votes. and pay for illegals to have a free ride.

                      all in the name of ..."environment" and "mmgw".

                      With Passage of $1.2 Trillion Infrastructure Bill ...

                      redstate.com.icohttps://redstate.com › mike_miller › 2021 › 11 › 06 › with-passage-of-1-2-trillion-infrastructure-bill-democrats-tee-up-massive-benefits-for-illegals-n470919
                      The socialists' $1.75 trillion spending dream addresses a wide range of pet issues, the majority of which have zero to do with infrastructure. Buried deep in the bill are, as Just the News described, "a series of provisions which, if signed into law, would amount to a windfall for illegal immigrants."
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                        Human infrastructure bill gives illegal aliens $300 a ...

                        www.independentsentinel.com.icohttps://www.independentsentinel.com › human-infrastructure-bill-gives-illegal-aliens-300-a-month-per-child
                        Human infrastructure bill gives illegal aliens $300 a month per child. At a Homeland Security committee hearing today, Senator Romney grilled DHS Secretary Mayorkas about the President's "human infrastructure bill.". As Romney said, the bill allows illegal aliens to get $300 a month, per child, by obtaining a tax ID number once they're ...

                        'INFRASTRUCTURE' Bill Contains Massive Benefits For ...

                        www.usmessageboard.com.icohttps://www.usmessageboard.com › threads › infrastructure-bill-contains-massive-benefits-for-ilegals.929425
                        This bill allows 'parole' on a case-by-case basis for illegals in the US be applied across the board to approximately 6.8 MILLION illegals in the United States as long as they have been here since something like 2011. This gives them not only gives them PROTECTION, but work visas & STATE IDS ... which allows them to get ballots and vote.

                        Cash Grab: Dem Bill Allows Tax Credits for Illegals ...

                        ktrh.iheart.com.icohttps://ktrh.iheart.com › content › 2021-09-27-cash-grab-dem-bill-allows-tax-credits-for-illegals
                        Cash Grab: Dem Bill Allows Tax Credits for Illegals. Human infrastructure apparently also extends to illegal aliens. The Democrats' massive $3.5 trillion "human infrastructure bill" contains a provision allowing non-citizens to obtain a tax ID number, which would allow them to claim a $300 per month, per child tax credit.
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                          Let’s not forget $3 billion so prisons can upgrade to high speed internet.

                          After all, watching porn on a dial up connection is just cruel and unusual punishment.

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            Then what is your concern using a link of your own?

                             I didn't really find any links that I trust or were more specific than yours.

                             But if I'd have posted a similar link from some site site you deemed biased I'm sure you would demand specifics.

                             If you trust the people that wrote it to have eliminated every penny of bloat  I guess there's nothing in that link that pruse you wrong. Or right.

                            https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/4-big-problems-bidens-infrastructure-plan

                            WSS 

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                             I didn't really find any links that I trust or were more specific than yours.

                             But if I'd have posted a similar link from some site site you deemed biased I'm sure you would demand specifics.

                             If you trust the people that wrote it to have eliminated every penny of bloat  I guess there's nothing in that link that pruse you wrong. Or right.

                            https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/4-big-problems-bidens-infrastructure-plan

                            WSS 

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                            So, yeah, what you already alluded to... this is an opinion piece by a conservative think tank. Of course they don't like it.

                            I figured I'd read it though and then see what sources they used for their concerns.

                            Read the whole thing... No sources. No citations. Nothing. With all of the claims they're making you'd think they'd have SOMETHING to back it up.

                            A lot of faulty logic too. Saying we shouldn't spend as much on public transit because less people use it. The whole point of spending money on it is to improve it and allow more people to use it. Which would reduce emissions and reduce traffic congestion. 

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              @westside-steve said:

                               I didn't really find any links that I trust or were more specific than yours.

                               But if I'd have posted a similar link from some site site you deemed biased I'm sure you would demand specifics.

                               If you trust the people that wrote it to have eliminated every penny of bloat  I guess there's nothing in that link that pruse you wrong. Or right.

                              https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/4-big-problems-bidens-infrastructure-plan

                              WSS 

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                              So, yeah, what you already alluded to... this is an opinion piece by a conservative think tank. Of course they don't like it.

                              I figured I'd read it though and then see what sources they used for their concerns.

                              Read the whole thing... No sources. No citations. Nothing. With all of the claims they're making you'd think they'd have SOMETHING to back it up.

                              A lot of faulty logic too. Saying we shouldn't spend as much on public transit because less people use it. The whole point of spending money on it is to improve it and allow more people to use it. Which would reduce emissions and reduce traffic congestion. 

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              So, yeah, what you already alluded to... this is an opinion piece by a conservative think tank. Of course they don't like it.

                              I figured I'd read it though and then see what sources they used for their concerns.

                              Read the whole thing... No sources. No citations. Nothing. With all of the claims they're making you'd think they'd have SOMETHING to back it up.

                              A lot of faulty logic too. Saying we shouldn't spend as much on public transit because less people use it. The whole point of spending money on it is to improve it and allow more people to use it. Which would reduce emissions and reduce traffic congestion. 

                               I think public transportation is a good idea but so far it's just usable for poor people In the city. But that aside....

                               I don't think it's particularly a matter of spending X amount of money on X projects. I'm OK with public spending but I'm also smart enough to know that when you write any institutional organization a blank  check and throw in pork for everybody that signed on.. . 

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                So, yeah, what you already alluded to... this is an opinion piece by a conservative think tank. Of course they don't like it.

                                I figured I'd read it though and then see what sources they used for their concerns.

                                Read the whole thing... No sources. No citations. Nothing. With all of the claims they're making you'd think they'd have SOMETHING to back it up.

                                A lot of faulty logic too. Saying we shouldn't spend as much on public transit because less people use it. The whole point of spending money on it is to improve it and allow more people to use it. Which would reduce emissions and reduce traffic congestion. 

                                 I think public transportation is a good idea but so far it's just usable for poor people In the city. But that aside....

                                 I don't think it's particularly a matter of spending X amount of money on X projects. I'm OK with public spending but I'm also smart enough to know that when you write any institutional organization a blank  check and throw in pork for everybody that signed on.. . 

                                WSS 

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                 I think public transportation is a good idea but so far it's just usable for poor people In the city. But that aside....

                                 I don't think it's particularly a matter of spending X amount of money on X projects. I'm OK with public spending but I'm also smart enough to know that when you write any institutional organization a blank  check and throw in pork for everybody that signed on.. . 

                                WSS 

                                Right, there's waste in anything. Waste in this bill. Waste in the military. Waste in private companies. Are you saying no money should ever be invested in anything unless there's 0 waste?

                                Public transportation in other developed companies is a good example for what it could be. Turning up your nose and saying "that's for the poors" means nothing when you aren't affected. 

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                   I think public transportation is a good idea but so far it's just usable for poor people In the city. But that aside....

                                   I don't think it's particularly a matter of spending X amount of money on X projects. I'm OK with public spending but I'm also smart enough to know that when you write any institutional organization a blank  check and throw in pork for everybody that signed on.. . 

                                  WSS 

                                  Right, there's waste in anything. Waste in this bill. Waste in the military. Waste in private companies. Are you saying no money should ever be invested in anything unless there's 0 waste?

                                  Public transportation in other developed companies is a good example for what it could be. Turning up your nose and saying "that's for the poors" means nothing when you aren't affected. 

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                                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Right, there's waste in anything. Waste in this bill. Waste in the military. Waste in private companies. Are you saying no money should ever be invested in anything unless there's 0 waste?

                                  Public transportation in other developed companies is a good example for what it could be. Turning up your nose and saying "that's for the poors" means nothing when you aren't affected. 

                                  This bill spends more money on Amtrak than the nation’s highways.

                                  Tell me Birdboy, how can you justify that?

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Right, there's waste in anything. Waste in this bill. Waste in the military. Waste in private companies. Are you saying no money should ever be invested in anything unless there's 0 waste?

                                    Public transportation in other developed companies is a good example for what it could be. Turning up your nose and saying "that's for the poors" means nothing when you aren't affected. 

                                    This bill spends more money on Amtrak than the nation’s highways.

                                    Tell me Birdboy, how can you justify that?

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @canton-dawg said:

                                    This bill spends more money on Amtrak than the nation’s highways.

                                    Tell me Birdboy, how can you justify that?

                                    There's a ton of work to be done to repair, let alone upgrade, our rail system. And it is much more expensive to build modern rail stations then pave roads. 

                                    Do you think because there is physically more of something it should get more money?

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                                      hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                                      Amtrak expert?  Who would have known……

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                                        Amtrak expert?  Who would have known……

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @hammertime said:

                                        Amtrak expert?  Who would have known……

                                        Do you think it costs more per mile to construct a highway or to construct high speed rail (which includes the trains and stations)?

                                        If you disagree with something I said please go ahead and share what that is. 

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                                          Let’s not forget $3 billion so prisons can upgrade to high speed internet.

                                          After all, watching porn on a dial up connection is just cruel and unusual punishment.

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                                          @canton-dawg said:

                                          Let’s not forget $3 billion so prisons can upgrade to high speed internet.

                                          After all, watching porn on a dial up connection is just cruel and unusual punishment.

                                          Do you have a source saying specifically where in the bill it is putting $3 billion to prison internet?

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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