Playing for Pickett

Dutch Oven

@browns149 said:

That’s not how you win in the 2022 season

People keep saying, we need to win now, the window is open NOW

A drafted QB sitting behind Baker sure as heck isn’t going to do ANYTHING

And watching Baker muddle along through another season while we waste this “so called window”, will be just like this year

9-8 or 8-9 or maybe if we catch a break 11-6

If Deshaun Watson is available, GET IT DONE!!!!!

I'm just being realistic.

Your scenario is what YOU want the Browns to do.

My scenario is what I think the Browns will do.

I don't see Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson coming to Cleveland, and I don't see the Browns giving up the world (possibly) for a PR nightmare like Watson.

I can see, though, the scenario presented by jbluhm where - on Baker's 5th year contract - the Browns draft a younger guy to groom to replace him with. I can see the Browns coaching staff and front office thinking "We believe in this offensive system. You don't need a superstar to run it. You don't need a guy you have to pay $30-40 mill a year. Find us a guy in the draft who is smart and can go through progressions better than Baker."

ballpeen

I don't want to give up on Baker, and he will be here next season.

That said, I also wouldn't be against drafting a QB in say round 2 as a back-up plan for the following year in the event the team camp and the baker camp have differing views of his worth.

People keep saying we are built to win now. maybe so, but with all the 1 year deals on the books, as of this time we aren't built to do that next year.

SdBacker80

@ballpeen said:

I don't want to give up on Baker, and he will be here next season.

That said, I also wouldn't be against drafting a QB in say round 2 as a back-up plan for the following year in the event the team camp and the baker camp have differing views of his worth.

People keep saying we are built to win now. maybe so, but with all the 1 year deals on the books, as of this time we aren't built to do that next year.

Our core is Garrett, Chubb, Ward, Bitonio, Teller.

Age and contract status of the group suggest drafting a developmental type in Day 2 or 3 and hanging onto that guy hoping the developmental QB is competent in two years and good in three. It would be time to hit the reset button with the other pieces.

So next year it is one read Baker

Year 2 is new guy

Year 3 we are hopefully rolling along.

What’s the other plan?

ballpeen

Anybody can get lucky, but drafting a day 3 QB to develop isn't something I would bank on.

Let's be real here....day 1 QB's have a high failure rate. Ours was the #1 overall pick and while no where near a bust, at least 2 of the QBs taken after him are easily better QB's, this point and most probably moving forward.

I think the 2023 draft class is where you want to find a QB...i see us trading down several times to add picks for the 2023 draft.

7moses7

Bottom line Baker fucking blows

nickers

@7moses7 said:

Bottom line Baker fucking blows

And you B L O W even more..

calfoxwc

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/12/27/kevin-stefanski-baker-mayfield-will-bounce-back-and-be-better-after-green-bay-loss/

7moses7

@nickers said:

And you B L O W even more..

Baker talks the talk, but can’t walk the walk.
translation - he just can’t get it done, especially in the 4th quarter with the game on the line.

calfoxwc

@7moses7 said:

Baker talks the talk, but can’t walk the walk.
translation - he just can’t get it done, especially in the 4th quarter with the game on the line.

not last year.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/baker-mayfield-thrived-late-in-games-in-2020-but-its-been-a-struggle-this-season.html

Baker Mayfield thrived late in games in 2020, but it’s been a struggle this season

Updated: Dec. 28, 2021, 12:12 p.m. | Published: Dec. 28, 2021, 12:10 p.m.

7moses7 · Updated: Dec. 28, 2021, 12:12 p.m. |

@calfoxwc said:

not last year.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/baker-mayfield-thrived-late-in-games-in-2020-but-its-been-a-struggle-this-season.html

Baker Mayfield thrived late in games in 2020, but it’s been a struggle this season

Updated: Dec. 28, 2021, 12:12 p.m. | Published: Dec. 28, 2021, 12:10 p.m.

Last year was last year, the NFL is a what have you done lately. Facts say he has held this team back,stop with the excuses, bottom line, he fucking blows

calfoxwc · Updated: Dec. 28, 2021, 12:12 p.m. |

@7moses7 said:

Last year was last year, the NFL is a what have you done lately. Facts say he has held this team back,stop with the excuses, bottom line, he fucking blows

BTW, go back and look at the Browns vs Cincy this year. 41-6 sound familiar?

Baker qb rating: 132

Burrow qb rating: 69

7moses7

Yea Baker is the savior, 1 good game this year

BAKER FUCKING BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!

calfoxwc

@7moses7 said:

Yea Baker is the savior, 1 good game this year

BAKER FUCKING BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!

so do your posts. Baker's excuse is he's playing injured.

7moses7

Quit making excuses, if he’s injured then sit the fuck down!!!!!

calfoxwc

@7moses7 said:

Quit making excuses, if he’s injured then sit the fuck down!!!!!

I've been saying that since before the squealers game.

nickers

@7moses7 said:

Baker talks the talk, but can’t walk the walk.
translation - he just can’t get it done, especially in the 4th quarter with the game on the line.

And I'm willing to bet you never once put on a pair of pads. Typical arm chair loser you are

Ibleedbrown

Any Desmond Ridder love round here? I’m mildly intrigued that the Browns could draft him after the first round, but l’m not sure he’ll last that long. He’s a tall dude with a Mega Man arm. My daughter goes to UC so we’re pretty stoked about the Bearcats this year and he’s been a big part of their success.

Plus he could bring lots of Skyline chili to the Browns and that might be the cosmic missing piece of the puzzle that propels them into a multiple Superbowl winning dynasty.

nickers

@ibleedbrown said:

Any Desmond Ridder love round here? I’m mildly intrigued that the Browns could draft him after the first round, but l’m not sure he’ll last that long. He’s a tall dude with a Mega Man arm. My daughter goes to UC so we’re pretty stoked about the Bearcats this year and he’s been a big part of their success.

Plus he could bring lots of Skyline chili to the Browns and that might be the cosmic missing piece of the puzzle that propels them into a multiple Superbowl winning dynasty.

Sounds like Derelict Anderception 2.0

hoorta

@ibleedbrown said:

Any Desmond Ridder love round here? I’m mildly intrigued that the Browns could draft him after the first round, but l’m not sure he’ll last that long. He’s a tall dude with a Mega Man arm. My daughter goes to UC so we’re pretty stoked about the Bearcats this year and he’s been a big part of their success.

Plus he could bring lots of Skyline chili to the Browns and that might be the cosmic missing piece of the puzzle that propels them into a multiple Superbowl winning dynasty.

I'll be watching Friday (already have the DVR set to record) when the outmanned Bearcats take on the 'Tide. I'm well aware of him. They pull off the upset, and Ridder hits the first round.

But please, keep that abominable garbage on a pile of spaghetti noodles well south of Columbus. As I like to paraphrase Skyline's competition- Gold Star... "The taste will make you vomit".

Dutch Oven

@ibleedbrown said:

Any Desmond Ridder love round here? I’m mildly intrigued that the Browns could draft him after the first round, but l’m not sure he’ll last that long. He’s a tall dude with a Mega Man arm. My daughter goes to UC so we’re pretty stoked about the Bearcats this year and he’s been a big part of their success.

Plus he could bring lots of Skyline chili to the Browns and that might be the cosmic missing piece of the puzzle that propels them into a multiple Superbowl winning dynasty.

Please leave that insult to chili down in Cincinnati, please. ?

Edit: It appears hoorta beat me to this...