Schefter: Watson to Browns
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I think you should post more. I may disagree with some of your points but they are good and thought out.
1. I didn't bring up he already didn't play last season. I think people do that because he was not indicted and the league is so inconsistent with their penalties....never know.
2. I believe the Hopkins deal got him on fire, he signed it, then the Texans kept doing dumb things ....I think a Pastor runs their football operations. They are one if not the worst ran franchise in sports. See what JJ Watt did...
3. No matter how a team got there....they there. Elite QB with very talented teammates at all costs.Brady brought AB, Gronk...etc. By all means necessary Rather picks or salaries. Remember all the chatter about the Rams mortgaging their future? Giving up the world for Stafford...getting this guy, that guy...still doing it. They are now the reigning Superbowl Champions. All of the contenders have elite QBs and very talented teammates. The rest have no chance.
4. I think it's moot point. if you don't have a elite QB...you have no chance in today's NFL. The fact that Watson is elite, Baker isn't...is kinda the bottomline
5. I agree
6. If Allen, Mahomes, Wilson, Allen, Watson, Burrows, Lamar, Stafford, Tom, Russell, Herbert were in the exact same situation as Baker....would they still be without a team? The answer to that question is what I am getting at. Baker had a top 5 oline, defense, and rushing attack with OBJ, Landry, Hooper and Njoku....what else do you need? For comparison in our own division Jackson had no running backs because of torn ACLs, bottom oline, bottom defense, bottom and hurt receivers...yet the Ratbirds were 7-3 and was 8-5 till he got injured. Why? Cuz their QB was top 10 in passing and rushing yards at the time.
7. Let's assume that's true.....how many present day players on our team who are presently at their peak can wait for a rookie of next season?
You speak as if the Browns have to get pieces. Their team is ready to win right now. It's not at a building stage. I use Brady because at the end of the day...Tampa is built just like all the other contenders....elite QB at all costs with very talented teammates
Nothing is ever clear cut.....but forth your best effort...that's all we can ask.
Ill have to push back on a few of them.
Tampa isn't built by Elite QB at all costs, Brady went there because of the talent they already had. The only team really built by getting rid of picks and go all in every year is the Rams.
And the other major thing I will have to challenge is calling OBJ, Landry, Hooper as having major weapons and being the same person pointing out nobody wanting Baker. As of this moment, all 3 of those weapons were available for trade and nobody wanted to. Then all 3 are FAs and still don't have a job. We can certainly point out that OBJ is injured, so is Baker. Now if we want to say look what OBJ did when he went to Rams, I have 2 views on that. 1 is obvious, Stafford is much better than Baker, BUT 2. He also wasn't the #1 guy.
Now you can view #2 differently, but that kind of goes to your 1st sentence in the reply, I should post more. One, during the season I am pretty busy as I have coached for 20 years (the part I am referring to above), 2 I am just not a person that enjoys getting into long back and forths especially when people think they are the smartest guy in the room, and some don't mind telling you or reminding you (even if they are correct). Sure, I have a lot of experience and knowledge, but I don't assume I know more than someone else, especially on a subject I don't think I am proficient in.
And I absolutely wouldn't call Njoku elite and certainly not the defense.
As for the waiting for the rookie next year, I believe you are missing my point. 1. If the assumed suspension does come, that is what is already going to happen, but I wouldn't assume that a Bryce Young/CJ Stroud/ex would be Watson, or Burrow, Herbert, etc. My point is that FO have to take those things into the equation when making decisions, are you win at all costs now or continue to build and even if/when Baker isn't the answer, you have the rest of the pieces in place.
Now, don't get me wrong, I am someone who values draft picks much lower than most.
The picks don't bother me that much, the money bothers me some (especially fully guaranteed with his history ((not the girl stuff)), the part that bothers me most is how they did the deal to make his base 1 million this year so he can lose the least amount possible. But on top of that, it makes it increase the rest of remaining years, which then hurts the ability to upgrade other parts of the team.
The Browns have to have Watson be near MVP caliber to have any shot after next year I believe. There is an easy correlation between Mahomes/Rodgers and Adams/Hill. Once the QB got paid (obviously worth it), you are going to lose others.
As for the Ravens comment, sure they lost guys, when are we going to give the Browns the same? In fact, I know for me, I would rather know if someone is going to be out then my players in and out from multiple injuries. And the Ravens scheme is more predicated on the blocking/misdirection/QB over having a GREAT running back. Their goal is to get more people to the point of attack than you have.
But anyway, the Browns were the most "healthy" Week 1 vs. Chiefs. A bobbled snap lost that game, not BM. Next game BM gets hurt (not because of him having a great line, but by making a bad throw and trying to be the one to stop it).
Now Baker looked bad A LOT last year. However much you want to credit the injury is up to the individual.
He looked pretty bad in wins too, but since its all about winning, lets leave them out.
L1: Chiefs- Baker didn't lose than game
L2: Chargers- 47-42, certainly not BM
L3: Cardinals- Baker wasn't terrible, wasn't great, but Chubb out, Landry out, as well as both starting OT
L4: Steelers- EVERYTHING was bad, but point out that Hunt and Ward were out.
L5: Patriots- No needs to assign blame, the players kids and wives were embarrassed
L6: Ravens- Baker was inefficient, but the Browns (a running team who needs that for Baker to succeed), ran it 17 times for 40 yards. That game is on the staff to me.
L7: Raiders- Nick Mullens
L8: Packers- Baker, Baker, Baker
L9: Steelers- Baker was bad, but again the game strategy was poor to me (38 passes, Chubb 12 carries)
Last thing I will say, we really need to define what elite is. How many QBs can be considered elite vs. Just being really good/great?
And I can't say that you need an elite QB to win (or even reach SB):
Since 2010: Eli, Flacco, Kaepernick, Peyton/Osweiler (PM that year), Newton, Ryan (that year he was elite), Wentz/Foles, Goff, Jimmy G. 8 out of 26 total (Brady, Mahomes, Wilson, Ben, Peyton were there multiple times and counted each time).
Either way, enjoyed it. Have a great evening
L1: Chiefs- Baker didn't lose than game
No, he didn't. Turnovers were the main issue. But I've highlighted several plays Baker failed to push the ball downfield, including a potential TD throw.
L2: Chargers- 47-42, certainly not BM
No argument there.
L3: Cardinals- Baker wasn't terrible, wasn't great, but Chubb out, Landry out, as well as both starting OT
Baker was terrible, but the team was injured at that point.
L4: Steelers- EVERYTHING was bad, but point out that Hunt and Ward were out.
At home? Again, I've broke down a handful of plays, including a potential game saving/tying drive where Baker failed to deliver on a call and concept drawn up beautifully by the coaches.
L5: Patriots- No needs to assign blame, the players kids and wives were embarrassed
Blame go to far around, but again... you're facing a defensive mind who knew exactly how to attack Mayfield and he did nothing to force adjustments when the opportunities presented themselves.
L6: Ravens- Baker was inefficient, but the Browns (a running team who needs that for Baker to succeed), ran it 17 times for 40 yards. That game is on the staff to me.
"needs that for Baker to succeed" is an admission that your QB is a problem at the highest levels of play. The Browns ran the ball 17 times, 15 of those against +1 box counts. NFL is about dictating matchups and the Browns didn't have a QB able to exploit those, what amount to "gimmies" by the Ravens.
L7: Raiders- Nick Mullens
L8: Packers- Baker, Baker, Baker
Pretty much all Baker early on.
L9: Steelers- Baker was bad, but again the game strategy was poor to me (38 passes, Chubb 12 carries)
No different than last time against the Steelers. Daring this offense to beat them through the air. I will get on Stef for not sticking with the run late in the game when it was finally working.
Last thing I will say, we really need to define what elite is. How many QBs can be considered elite vs. Just being really good/great?
And I can't say that you need an elite QB to win (or even reach SB):
Since 2010: Eli, Flacco, Kaepernick, Peyton/Osweiler (PM that year), Newton, Ryan (that year he was elite), Wentz/Foles, Goff, Jimmy G. 8 out of 26 total (Brady, Mahomes, Wilson, Ben, Peyton were there multiple times and counted each time).
You need an elite QB to keep Superbowl windows open. As pointed out on this site, 1 and done is incredibly rare and then you have teams that make the mistake (Flacco, Kaep, Osweiler, Goff) of paying those QB's because of the misguided belief that their level of play couldn't be duplicated, and ignoring the team structure around them that allowed such success.
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"Just produce. Seems as if you're getting upset of what "could" happen.."
No shit.
that's what this whole thing's about right? Aren't you guys getting all excited about what could happen?
WSS
I mean...What negatively could happen at its worse.
That's like me saying we are no doubt blowing everyone out through to the Superbowl.
Unnecessarily extreme...lol
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Supposedly, the Browns started work on Watson back in November. Obviously, they already knew that the position needed to be upgraded...and that the draft class was not going to be the answer...and that the team is built to win now. (Of course OBJ leaving left us with a WR room that wasn't ready to win now)
Let's face it, Baker has not been a very good 4th quarter QB. Although there are many examples, the playoff game against the Chiefs is one that most football fans, GM's, coaches, etc. could relate to actually seeing. With Mahomes in the locker room in the 4th quarter, we could not score points to win the game. Some might argue that Baker didn't lose us the game. And...Oookayy...but we DO know that he didn't WIN it for us. We've counted on Chubb and D'Ernest to 'save' games for us by grinding out tough 1st downs to get the clock to double zeros. Stef did everything he could to keep Baker out of having to win the game...because he knew that he wasn't dependable to deliver. During games we would see Steff try passes when we thought we should run...but that would give Baker better odds at completions...and those completions would open up the running game even more. But he'd throw it over the receiver's head...or behind him.
Many of us on this board have not felt real good about Baker for some time now. And the Browns org obviously felt the same way for at least as long. Remember, all they ever did with Baker was to pick up his 5th year option...which of course they are now regretting.
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Supposedly, the Browns started work on Watson back in November. Obviously, they already knew that the position needed to be upgraded...and that the draft class was not going to be the answer...and that the team is built to win now. (Of course OBJ leaving left us with a WR room that wasn't ready to win now)
Let's face it, Baker has not been a very good 4th quarter QB. Although there are many examples, the playoff game against the Chiefs is one that most football fans, GM's, coaches, etc. could relate to actually seeing. With Mahomes in the locker room in the 4th quarter, we could not score points to win the game. Some might argue that Baker didn't lose us the game. And...Oookayy...but we DO know that he didn't WIN it for us. We've counted on Chubb and D'Ernest to 'save' games for us by grinding out tough 1st downs to get the clock to double zeros. Stef did everything he could to keep Baker out of having to win the game...because he knew that he wasn't dependable to deliver. During games we would see Steff try passes when we thought we should run...but that would give Baker better odds at completions...and those completions would open up the running game even more. But he'd throw it over the receiver's head...or behind him.
Many of us on this board have not felt real good about Baker for some time now. And the Browns org obviously felt the same way for at least as long. Remember, all they ever did with Baker was to pick up his 5th year option...which of course they are now regretting.
Let's face it, Baker has not been a very good 4th quarter QB. Although there are many examples, the playoff game against the Chiefs is one that most football fans, GM's, coaches, etc. could relate to actually seeing. With Mahomes in the locker room in the 4th quarter, we could not score points to win the game.
I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins late in the game at the goal line.
The ball went out of bounds in the end zone, which was a turnover.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Let's face it, Baker has not been a very good 4th quarter QB. Although there are many examples, the playoff game against the Chiefs is one that most football fans, GM's, coaches, etc. could relate to actually seeing. With Mahomes in the locker room in the 4th quarter, we could not score points to win the game.
I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins late in the game at the goal line.
The ball went out of bounds in the end zone, which was a turnover.
I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins
I remember the play. Ironic, Higgins was just that close to being a good receiver. And now they're both gone. (in Baker's case, all but gone).
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Let's face it, Baker has not been a very good 4th quarter QB. Although there are many examples, the playoff game against the Chiefs is one that most football fans, GM's, coaches, etc. could relate to actually seeing. With Mahomes in the locker room in the 4th quarter, we could not score points to win the game.
I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins late in the game at the goal line.
The ball went out of bounds in the end zone, which was a turnover.
I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins late in the game at the goal line.
The ball went out of bounds in the end zone, which was a turnover.
I think you forget we were about to get blown out before Mahomes got injured and that we had multiple chances
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I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins late in the game at the goal line.
The ball went out of bounds in the end zone, which was a turnover.
I think you forget we were about to get blown out before Mahomes got injured and that we had multiple chances
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I think you missed the point, a turnover at the goal line late in the game sealed the deal for K.C.
They managed to win by 5 points.
With their back up....Baker couldn't outplay the back up. Yes...that was a horrible missed call....also wouldve been null and void had Mahomes not got injured
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I think you missed the point, a turnover at the goal line late in the game sealed the deal for K.C.
They managed to win by 5 points.
With their back up....Baker couldn't outplay the back up. Yes...that was a horrible missed call....also wouldve been null and void had Mahomes not got injured
With their back up....Baker couldn't outplay the back up. Yes...that was a horrible missed call....also wouldve been null and void had Mahomes not got injured
In fairness, KC had the best TE in football. The fastest, most elusive wr in football....? Baker has his faults, but if Baker had had Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill, I can't imagine it not making a giant difference in the passing game.
Again, Doug Dieken mentioned more than once about the wr's not getting open.
Meanwhile..... saw on the news that a judge has ordered you know who to answer if he had sex with those 22 women or something like that.
I believe I saw where his attorney? said they would likely appeal. And his answer as to "why 22"....was bad.
Such a waste. To me, the browns just gave the finger to all the fans who are disgusted by this fiasco. How it turns out in the end, who knows. They went about it the wrong way, I think. Just when they were drafting brilliantly......this garbage happens. and THREE 1st round....
just seems the network money is their goal. Just my opinion.
It's just too bad. So many fans did not need this controversy. A lot of folks would have been fine if the Browns got a new qb in the draft. or a trade - except this one. That is the problem.
The Rams were a complete team heading for the super bowl before obj jumped on board, btw. Just sayin.
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With their back up....Baker couldn't outplay the back up. Yes...that was a horrible missed call....also wouldve been null and void had Mahomes not got injured
In fairness, KC had the best TE in football. The fastest, most elusive wr in football....? Baker has his faults, but if Baker had had Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill, I can't imagine it not making a giant difference in the passing game.
Again, Doug Dieken mentioned more than once about the wr's not getting open.
Meanwhile..... saw on the news that a judge has ordered you know who to answer if he had sex with those 22 women or something like that.
I believe I saw where his attorney? said they would likely appeal. And his answer as to "why 22"....was bad.
Such a waste. To me, the browns just gave the finger to all the fans who are disgusted by this fiasco. How it turns out in the end, who knows. They went about it the wrong way, I think. Just when they were drafting brilliantly......this garbage happens. and THREE 1st round....
just seems the network money is their goal. Just my opinion.
It's just too bad. So many fans did not need this controversy. A lot of folks would have been fine if the Browns got a new qb in the draft. or a trade - except this one. That is the problem.
The Rams were a complete team heading for the super bowl before obj jumped on board, btw. Just sayin.
In fairness, KC had the best TE in football. The fastest, most elusive wr in football....? Baker has his faults, but if Baker had had Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill, I can't imagine it not making a giant difference in the passing game.
Again, Doug Dieken mentioned more than once about the wr's not getting open.
Meanwhile..... saw on the news that a judge has ordered you know who to answer if he had sex with those 22 women or something like that.
I believe I saw where his attorney? said they would likely appeal. And his answer as to "why 22"....was bad.
Such a waste. To me, the browns just gave the finger to all the fans who are disgusted by this fiasco. How it turns out in the end, who knows. They went about it the wrong way, I think. Just when they were drafting brilliantly......this garbage happens. and THREE 1st round....
just seems the network money is their goal. Just my opinion.
It's just too bad. So many fans did not need this controversy. A lot of folks would have been fine if the Browns got a new qb in the draft. or a trade - except this one. That is the problem.
The Rams were a complete team heading for the super bowl before obj jumped on board, btw. Just sayin.
Correct...KC had better wide recievers...but not a betterline or runnignbacks or defense.
Judge ordered him to answer if he had sept with the 18 women who actually came to his defense and his attorney asked for relevance. Legally the " shot in the dark".
We also so Baker just be terribly inaccurate...He is leading the league in interceptions for a reason
Not a waste...its the only shot. You can have a great roster (Rams, Tampa) but without an eite QB (Stafford and Brady vs Goff and Weisnten) you're not winning a Superbowl. What has picks gotten us before? How many 1st round picks have we wasted on QBs who we HOPE were good but turned out to be mediocre or bad?
Yes...the Rams were a complete team.....that kind of makes it worse that he still succeeded. Guess who also was a complete team...the Browns
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In fairness, KC had the best TE in football. The fastest, most elusive wr in football....? Baker has his faults, but if Baker had had Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill, I can't imagine it not making a giant difference in the passing game.
Again, Doug Dieken mentioned more than once about the wr's not getting open.
Meanwhile..... saw on the news that a judge has ordered you know who to answer if he had sex with those 22 women or something like that.
I believe I saw where his attorney? said they would likely appeal. And his answer as to "why 22"....was bad.
Such a waste. To me, the browns just gave the finger to all the fans who are disgusted by this fiasco. How it turns out in the end, who knows. They went about it the wrong way, I think. Just when they were drafting brilliantly......this garbage happens. and THREE 1st round....
just seems the network money is their goal. Just my opinion.
It's just too bad. So many fans did not need this controversy. A lot of folks would have been fine if the Browns got a new qb in the draft. or a trade - except this one. That is the problem.
The Rams were a complete team heading for the super bowl before obj jumped on board, btw. Just sayin.
Correct...KC had better wide recievers...but not a betterline or runnignbacks or defense.
Judge ordered him to answer if he had sept with the 18 women who actually came to his defense and his attorney asked for relevance. Legally the " shot in the dark".
We also so Baker just be terribly inaccurate...He is leading the league in interceptions for a reason
Not a waste...its the only shot. You can have a great roster (Rams, Tampa) but without an eite QB (Stafford and Brady vs Goff and Weisnten) you're not winning a Superbowl. What has picks gotten us before? How many 1st round picks have we wasted on QBs who we HOPE were good but turned out to be mediocre or bad?
Yes...the Rams were a complete team.....that kind of makes it worse that he still succeeded. Guess who also was a complete team...the Browns
Correct...KC had better wide recievers...but not a betterline or runnignbacks or defense.
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Very true. KC's wr's are the difference.
We also so Baker just be terribly inaccurate...He is leading the league in interceptions for a reason
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Baker was dismal, granted. But he was hurt. He got hurt on a play where Schwartz, a rookie, made a mistake, ending in an interception.
With obj, a legit field stretcher, it gave Landry etc their chances to get open. Without obj, nope. Teams moved close to the los, and played vs the run and a lot of man to man coverage. And, Landry is not known for getting open vs man to man, and of course HIggins is not, either. That leaves Peoples-Jones- a raw but outstanding talent.
I was disgusted early on, when they allowed Baker to play hurt. That was really stupid in a couple of ways. Something is wrong in "Denmark" there - just makes zero sense, especially after the first few tries.
Again, Dieken knows football - and he was lamenting the fact that wr's were NOT getting open - it was an offensive debacle every pass play.
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Baker Mayfield breaks rookie passing TD record
Baker Mayfield breaks rookie passing TD record. Link icon Copied! Baker Mayfield is alone atop at least one page of the NFL record book. With three passing scores in Sunday's 26-24 loss to the ...Baker Mayfield sets rookie record for TD passes
Baker Mayfield has set the NFL's record for touchdown passes by a rookie. The No. 1 overall pick lived up to the billing by Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson in their debut seasons. Mayfield set the record with his third TD pass in the Week 17 finale against the Baltimore Ravens. -
Correct...KC had better wide recievers...but not a betterline or runnignbacks or defense.
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Very true. KC's wr's are the difference.
We also so Baker just be terribly inaccurate...He is leading the league in interceptions for a reason
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Baker was dismal, granted. But he was hurt. He got hurt on a play where Schwartz, a rookie, made a mistake, ending in an interception.
With obj, a legit field stretcher, it gave Landry etc their chances to get open. Without obj, nope. Teams moved close to the los, and played vs the run and a lot of man to man coverage. And, Landry is not known for getting open vs man to man, and of course HIggins is not, either. That leaves Peoples-Jones- a raw but outstanding talent.
I was disgusted early on, when they allowed Baker to play hurt. That was really stupid in a couple of ways. Something is wrong in "Denmark" there - just makes zero sense, especially after the first few tries.
Again, Dieken knows football - and he was lamenting the fact that wr's were NOT getting open - it was an offensive debacle every pass play.
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Baker Mayfield breaks rookie passing TD record
Baker Mayfield breaks rookie passing TD record. Link icon Copied! Baker Mayfield is alone atop at least one page of the NFL record book. With three passing scores in Sunday's 26-24 loss to the ...Baker Mayfield sets rookie record for TD passes
Baker Mayfield has set the NFL's record for touchdown passes by a rookie. The No. 1 overall pick lived up to the billing by Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson in their debut seasons. Mayfield set the record with his third TD pass in the Week 17 finale against the Baltimore Ravens.I'll stop you there about Schwartz.
If you're referring to that deep dig he was running against the Texans 2 high shell - Baker sailed that ball on him. Just like he did a play before checking into a 7 and throwing to a non-existent receiver. And the play before that spraying the ball into zone coverage to Njoku without moving the LB.
The Baker thread is only a page back and my screengrabs with route breakdowns are available for all to see. You can't just say "Schwartz made a mistake" and then expect it to hold up around me.
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I'll stop you there about Schwartz.
If you're referring to that deep dig he was running against the Texans 2 high shell - Baker sailed that ball on him. Just like he did a play before checking into a 7 and throwing to a non-existent receiver. And the play before that spraying the ball into zone coverage to Njoku without moving the LB.
The Baker thread is only a page back and my screengrabs with route breakdowns are available for all to see. You can't just say "Schwartz made a mistake" and then expect it to hold up around me.
I'll stop you there about Schwartz.
If you're referring to that deep dig he was running against the Texans 2 high shell - Baker sailed that ball on him. Just like he did a play before checking into a 7 and throwing to a non-existent receiver. And the play before that spraying the ball into zone coverage to Njoku without moving the LB.
The Baker thread is only a page back and my screengrabs with route breakdowns are available for all to see. You can't just say "Schwartz made a mistake" and then expect it to hold up around me.
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/09/19/baker-mayfield-injured-ugly-interception/
"The Browns were able to score after that thanks to a muffed punt but then the defense gave up seven quick points as well. Looking to go back ahead, Mayfield was throwing it down the field for rookie Anthony Schwartz, who appeared to stop on the route. "
(comments section)
"19 September, 2021
"Credit Schwartz with that INT. This is a two weeks in a row he has quit on a route. Last week he cost us an easy TD before the half and this week an INT and thankfully not a serious injury to Baker on that play when tackling the defender."********************************The rookie wideout failed to finish running a route, which led to a Justin Reid interception and an injury to quarterback Baker Mayfield's non-throwing shoulder after the QB had to tackle Reid. -
Correct...KC had better wide recievers...but not a betterline or runnignbacks or defense.
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Very true. KC's wr's are the difference.
We also so Baker just be terribly inaccurate...He is leading the league in interceptions for a reason
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Baker was dismal, granted. But he was hurt. He got hurt on a play where Schwartz, a rookie, made a mistake, ending in an interception.
With obj, a legit field stretcher, it gave Landry etc their chances to get open. Without obj, nope. Teams moved close to the los, and played vs the run and a lot of man to man coverage. And, Landry is not known for getting open vs man to man, and of course HIggins is not, either. That leaves Peoples-Jones- a raw but outstanding talent.
I was disgusted early on, when they allowed Baker to play hurt. That was really stupid in a couple of ways. Something is wrong in "Denmark" there - just makes zero sense, especially after the first few tries.
Again, Dieken knows football - and he was lamenting the fact that wr's were NOT getting open - it was an offensive debacle every pass play.
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Baker Mayfield breaks rookie passing TD record
Baker Mayfield breaks rookie passing TD record. Link icon Copied! Baker Mayfield is alone atop at least one page of the NFL record book. With three passing scores in Sunday's 26-24 loss to the ...Baker Mayfield sets rookie record for TD passes
Baker Mayfield has set the NFL's record for touchdown passes by a rookie. The No. 1 overall pick lived up to the billing by Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson in their debut seasons. Mayfield set the record with his third TD pass in the Week 17 finale against the Baltimore Ravens. -
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Baker is the only one who says he is able to play. the hc says whether or not he will.
Nope...that wasn't the dynamic with your guy. He ran to the press and said only he makes that decision. If your the no.1 pick, medical staff cleared you and you coming off a playoff win and you do that...wtf is Stefanski supposed to do? He put himself infront of the team...and they both lost because of it
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Let's face it, Baker has not been a very good 4th quarter QB. Although there are many examples, the playoff game against the Chiefs is one that most football fans, GM's, coaches, etc. could relate to actually seeing. With Mahomes in the locker room in the 4th quarter, we could not score points to win the game.
I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins late in the game at the goal line.
The ball went out of bounds in the end zone, which was a turnover.
I think you’re forgetting the helmet to helmet hit on Higgins late in the game at the goal line.
The ball went out of bounds in the end zone, which was a turnover.
I forgot about this one (being brought up multiple times) and I haven't read anyone correct it.
It wasn't late in the game, it was late in the FIRST HALF.
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@hish747 any new legal procedures next or opinions on the added claims?
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/08/deshaun-watson-browns-civil-suspension-timeline/
Seen nothing as of a NFL statement ?
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@hish747 any new legal procedures next or opinions on the added claims?
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/08/deshaun-watson-browns-civil-suspension-timeline/
Seen nothing as of a NFL statement ?
@hish747 any new legal procedures next or opinions on the added claims?
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/08/deshaun-watson-browns-civil-suspension-timeline/
Seen nothing as of a NFL statement ?
I'm not an Attorney but worked for a criminal defense attorney for 7 years out of law school.
These moves look like shots in the dark to make sure they are financially compensated by adding these additions and inlongating the process
The league maynot suspend him until year 2...which Watson and his representation was trying to avoid for multiple reasons.
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