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  • laiccm L Conversation Starter Reacting Well Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Baker has led the league in interceptions since being in the league.

    Off the field issues that are not legal or suspendable but unnecessarily annoying

    Broke rookie TD record

    Led team to playoffs

    Led team to playoff win against Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh

    At times very accurate

    What I read about Brisset who is also less expensive,  bigger and faster than Baker but never led a team to the playoffs.

    "Brissett will join his fourth NFL team since entering the league in 2016 and has played 60 games with 37 starts. He’s passed for 7,772 yards, 36 touchdowns and 17 interceptions, including 1,281 yards, five touchdowns and four interceptions in 11 games and five starts with the Miami Dolphins last season"

    Is Baker better than Brissett? If so....by how much do you think?

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      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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      I’m thinking Super Bowl.

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        Baker v Brisset sounds like a chefs competition on Food Network TV.    😆 

        No seriously we'll just have to wait and see if/when Brisset hits the field in a BROWNS uniform.  Baker has had his tryout in Cleveland  I'm just wondering who will who would pick him, for how much,  starter or backup all that good stuff..

        Brisset has the luxury of handling off the ball ? off to Chubb & Co. behind a decent OL with the WR group still to be completely finalized.  Not a tough assignment  but remember Baker had that same group with mixed results    -or-   we wouldn't be having this discussion right now......right  ?  

        Baker Mayfield didn't exactly take the BROWNS  to the next level with any consistent results that's why we're discussing Watson/Brisset who will have the 2022 team's future in they're hands for the first 8 games  ?

        SO to change up the mood of things  who do you think will win the AFCN this year  ?   Who will finish last  ?       😕 

        GO BROWNS !    #1 in our hearts forever. 

        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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          Baker v Brisset sounds like a chefs competition on Food Network TV.    😆 

          No seriously we'll just have to wait and see if/when Brisset hits the field in a BROWNS uniform.  Baker has had his tryout in Cleveland  I'm just wondering who will who would pick him, for how much,  starter or backup all that good stuff..

          Brisset has the luxury of handling off the ball ? off to Chubb & Co. behind a decent OL with the WR group still to be completely finalized.  Not a tough assignment  but remember Baker had that same group with mixed results    -or-   we wouldn't be having this discussion right now......right  ?  

          Baker Mayfield didn't exactly take the BROWNS  to the next level with any consistent results that's why we're discussing Watson/Brisset who will have the 2022 team's future in they're hands for the first 8 games  ?

          SO to change up the mood of things  who do you think will win the AFCN this year  ?   Who will finish last  ?       😕 

          GO BROWNS !    #1 in our hearts forever. 

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          @mjp28 said:

          Baker v Brisset sounds like a chefs competition on Food Network TV.    😆 

          No seriously we'll just have to wait and see if/when Brisset hits the field in a BROWNS uniform.  Baker has had his tryout in Cleveland  I'm just wondering who will who would pick him, for how much,  starter or backup all that good stuff..

          Brisset has the luxury of handling off the ball ? off to Chubb & Co. behind a decent OL with the WR group still to be completely finalized.  Not a tough assignment  but remember Baker had that same group with mixed results    -or-   we wouldn't be having this discussion right now......right  ?  

          Baker Mayfield didn't exactly take the BROWNS  to the next level with any consistent results that's why we're discussing Watson/Brisset who will have the 2022 team's future in they're hands ?  

          SO to change up the mood of things  who do you think will win the AFCN this year  ?   Who will finish last  ?       😕 

          GO BROWNS !    #1 in our hearts forever. 

          yes it does!! lol

          I think the Browns......only because the Ravens didn't upgrade really,  Bengals will be a close 2nd cuz they did...they got lucky alot last year, and the Steelers are starting Trubisky

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            I’m thinking Super Bowl.

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            @canton-dawg said:

            I’m thinking Super Bowl.

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            Very Good points...I would say in Brissett defense most of it was  in a backup role and Dolphins were a mess last year and I'm not a big QBR guy

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              Faker Mayfair blows ?????????????????????????

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                Faker Mayfair blows ?????????????????????????

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                @7moses7 said:

                Faker Mayfair blows ?????????????????????????

                So do you...

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                  Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

                  Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

                   

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                    Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

                    Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

                     

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                    @sdbacker80 said:

                    Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

                    Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

                     

                    Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

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                      Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

                      Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

                       

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                      @sdbacker80 said:

                      Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

                      Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

                       

                      its a "discussion" board

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                        I’m thinking Super Bowl.

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                        lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by
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                        @canton-dawg said:

                        I’m thinking Super Bowl.

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                          @sdbacker80 said:

                          Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

                          Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

                           

                          Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

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                          @canton-dawg said:

                          Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

                          Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                          Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                          We shall see

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                            nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                            Brissett is very average... LOL...

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                              Brissett is very average... LOL...

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                              Brissett is very average... LOL...

                              Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

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                                @canton-dawg said:

                                Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

                                Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                                Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                                We shall see

                                WSS

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                                Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                                We shall see

                                WSS

                                No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                                Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                                  Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                                  We shall see

                                  WSS

                                  No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                                  Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

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                                  @laiccm said:

                                  No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                                  Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

                                  Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

                                  You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

                                  Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

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                                    @laiccm said:

                                    No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                                    Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

                                    Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

                                    You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

                                    Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

                                    WSS

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

                                    You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

                                    Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

                                    WSS

                                    No parroting needed-just pay attention.  Attacking medical staff, former coaches, local journalists, tv talking heads..etc...heck...the moron could've had a job after Watson turned the Browns down but he demanded a trade because of his feelings getting hurt. No one wants your guy for even half the price of an elite QB------ so it matters. His career is in danger.......you can go root for his mediocre ass at the USFL next year tho.....lol!!

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                                      @nickers said:

                                      Brissett is very average... LOL...

                                      Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

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                                      @laiccm said:

                                      Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

                                      Yes... Baker is a much better QB

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                                        @laiccm said:

                                        Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

                                        Yes... Baker is a much better QB

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                                        Yes... Baker is a much better QB

                                        ok. I think Baker is better as well...but I don't think by that much. 13-20 mill a year more? Brisset is a little under 5 mill

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                                          If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                                          And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

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