Could Browns Release Lewis Today?
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Lewis is done. Been saying that since 2 years ago.
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So I guess Harrisons 1.3 yard per carry average this preseason is valid too then?
So you're leaving out what James Davis averaged? Thatta boy! I figured you'd refuse the facts I just gave you when I compared Lewis' 3.6 yards per carry in 08 to Harrison's 7.23 yards per carry. Like I said, Harrison had 34 carries for 246 yards. Jamal put us to sleep.
Here's what the well-respected and highly paid professional (ESPN's Adam Schefter) had to say:
"It'll be a very long year in Cleveland if Lewis is the lead back, and he definitely didn't earn a roster spot with dreadful preseason play. We still wouldn't rule out the Browns cutting Lewis before the season. His $2.4M salary will be guaranteed if he's on the Week 1 roster, and clearly he isn't worth it. Look for James Davis to end up leading Browns backs in touches in 2009."
Here's something else worthy of note because it marks the FIRST time Ozzie Newsome started to weigh the pros and cons of Jamal's wear and tear vrs upside for his franchise. Pay attention to the date and look where the problem was:
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: November 25, 2004
"Baltimore Ravens running back Jamal Lewis, the National Football League's leading rusher last season, will miss Sunday's game against the New England Patriots because of a sprained right ankle." Since this is near the end of 04 let's take a peak at 05-08 BEFORE another ankle reconstruction this offseason:
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Att Yds TD Lng ypc
2005 26 BAL RB 31 15 15 269 906 3 25 3.4
2006 27 BAL RB 31 16 16 314 1132 9 52 3.6
2007 28 CLE RB 31 15 15 298 1304 9 66 4.4
2008 29 CLE RB 31 16 16 279 1002 4 29 3.6
And then came this:
"Read the latest fantasy news about Jamal Lewis at Rotoworld.com. ... More ankle surgery didn't do the trick this time. Don't be surprised if James Davis..."
If we finished the last sentence above it would read "Don't be surprised if James Davis looks like he's the ONLY RB that receives GOOD blocking." If Harrison can double Jamal's avg per carry - my guess is Davis might be able to triple it as he gets some experience ahead. I call this little phenomenon hitting the hole BEFORE it closes.
Sez, the REASON I want a different RB starting for us is because then I can feel like we're better than a team willing to settle for less. We haven't exactly been SPOILED with winning records or great RBs since 1999. Wasn't it nice back in the day when Greg Pruitt could score from anywhere on the field? WPBDawg showed us in this thread Jamal even had trouble scoring from inside the 5. The stat above also shows us Lewis' longest run in 08 was 29 yards inspite of 16 weeks of opportunity. Wanna bet at least 30 starting RBs bettered that longest run? Let's stop blaming everyone BUT Jamal and understand what excited us fans about the night Harrison broke an 85 yard TD run at Buffalo in a close game we would WIN because of that run. You can pretend it's always bad blocking for Jamal all you want but Davis and Harrison are hitting the holes before they close while you're explaining Jamal's patience and pointing fingers.
In conclusion: EVERY time this franchise has been good we've had the following RBs giving us fond memories: Marion Motley, Jim Brown, Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, Mike Pruitt, Ernest Byner, Kevin Mack, and even Leroys Hoards. The warm fuzzies got reinforced everytime these guys scored or setup scores from their prong of attack. Our RB tradition was pretty strong before 1999. I'd LOVE to see that return as soon as possible.
- Tom F.
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FWIW, Matthew Berry of ESPN just said that he considers Jamal Lewis a sleeper in fantasy football this year (for where he's getting picked - usually, extremely late.)
His reasons were that Lewis has the 2nd best "stuff" percentage in the NFL (meaning that when he gets a goal line carry he gets the ball in the end zone,) that Mangini coached teams run the ball inside the 10 yard line more often than 26 other teams in the NFL (meaning Jamal will get the red zone touches,) and that Jamal had 1200 total yards last year.
That's just fantasy stuff, and it doesn't really have to do with whether or not Jamal has anything left - but, we know that Lewis despite no flash will be important to this team but from a leadership standpoint, and from a production and red zone stand point.
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Lewis is done. Been saying that since 2 years ago.
Chickenwang said:
Lewis is done. Been saying that since 2 years ago.i didn't realize back-to-back 1,000+ yard seasons constituted done these days.
two years ago when you claim you were saying he was done he had the most yards by anyone in a Browns uni not named James Brown.
yeah, the AFCN is just a breeze to run in, huh Bub? some people are never happy i guess.
IMO Lewis still has life, even if he's no longer considered sexy. I still think he'll break 1k this year if he stays healthy. he's been sandbaggin' this summer--they know who he is, he's one of the few that didn't need to audition for the new regime.
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as long as he's durable and it keeps the defense honest who cares? pick someone else for your fantasy team solon.
the team has holes, no doubt, but they could be a HELL of a lot bigger. what do you want? 80 yards a game X 16 = 1280? in the AFCN? good luck.
games can be consistently won with superior play-calling and execution>>>it doesn't require 150-175 yards on the ground. like i said, some people are never happy i guess.
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as long as he's durable and it keeps the defense honest who cares? pick someone else for your fantasy team solon.
the team has holes, no doubt, but they could be a HELL of a lot bigger. what do you want? 80 yards a game X 16 = 1280? in the AFCN? good luck.
games can be consistently won with superior play-calling and execution>>>it doesn't require 150-175 yards on the ground. like i said, some people are never happy i guess.
as long as he's durable and it keeps the defense honest who cares? pick someone else for your fantasy team solon.
the team has holes, no doubt, but they could be a HELL of a lot bigger. what do you want? 80 yards a game X 16 = 1280? in the AFCN? good luck.
games can be consistently won with superior play-calling and execution>>>it doesn't require 150-175 yards on the ground. like i said, some people are never happy i guess.
I agree - and if at the very least they use Harrison / Davis by comittee, and plug in Lewis in situations when defenses arent stacked 8 in the box, with a QB who can throw a screen pass ... Seems to me, the offensive game plan opens up more than what they got last year. BY far the running game is very important and we need an experienced back, especially late in the season, if we find ourselves in a meaningful push against Balt / Pitt.
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i'm pretty well convinced this is Jamal's last year with us but in the meantime he's easily serviceable IMO and if Jamal doesn't have a productive year i'll be shocked.
let's hope his replacement is already on the team roster>>not just to be ahead of the curve but also to take advantage of his veteran leadership and wisdom while he's still around.
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Is Jerome Harrison still injured ?
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a RB w/ the 1st rd pick? i'll pass.
he'd be an awesome pickup though.
Hell yes a rb with first round pick!!!
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i'll admit i wanted AD real bad...and am still pining like you, but i've come around to the idea that backs can be found in later rounds and they are somewhat plug and play anyway. 1st round doesn't guarantee durability so it's not enough value for me. personally for me to even consider it he would need to be a once in 20 years type player.
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