Art Modell Misses Out On HOF….Again!
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To tell you the truth Jimmy Haslam makes me miss the guy more everyday.
WSS
To tell you the truth Jimmy Haslam makes me miss the guy more everyday.
WSS
You have a point... However minute it is lol
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To tell you the truth Jimmy Haslam makes me miss the guy more everyday.
WSS
You have a point... However minute it is lol
You have a point... However minute it is lol
F****** Haslam is flush with money. If art had that much dough back in the day he never would have gone bankrupt and had to move or sell.
WSS
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F****** Haslam is flush with money. If art had that much dough back in the day he never would have gone bankrupt and had to move or sell.
WSS
The NFL literally prints money, and that dumbass Art Modell still went broke.
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To tell you the truth Jimmy Haslam makes me miss the guy more everyday.
WSS
To tell you the truth Jimmy Haslam makes me miss the guy more everyday.
WSS
Oh yeah. He'd move the team in a heartbeat.
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F****** Haslam is flush with money. If art had that much dough back in the day he never would have gone bankrupt and had to move or sell.
WSS
The NFL literally prints money, and that dumbass Art Modell still went broke.
The NFL literally prints money, and that dumbass Art Modell still went broke.
Art thought he got a sweetheart deal in Baltimore, and it only took a couple of years before he sold it to Bisciotti.
You could give Art the goose that shits the golden egg, and he would kill it.
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F****** Haslam is flush with money. If art had that much dough back in the day he never would have gone bankrupt and had to move or sell.
WSS
Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
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F****** Haslam is flush with money. If art had that much dough back in the day he never would have gone bankrupt and had to move or sell.
WSS
Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
First of all I am by no means campaigning to put Art In the Hall of fame. In classical theater it's called the tragic flaw in which if the character commits an offense that cannot be forgiven he can't live at the end of the play. Moving the team was the tragic flaw. That again had a perfect world city council the mayor Etc should have ponied up what was necessary like Baltimore did and the league should have told him to sell to Al Lerner. But they didn't
But in the same breath I can still say fuck Jimmy Haslam.
I don't think it's possible to lose money in today's NFL. Art Modell lived in a different era.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
First of all I am by no means campaigning to put Art In the Hall of fame. In classical theater it's called the tragic flaw in which if the character commits an offense that cannot be forgiven he can't live at the end of the play. Moving the team was the tragic flaw. That again had a perfect world city council the mayor Etc should have ponied up what was necessary like Baltimore did and the league should have told him to sell to Al Lerner. But they didn't
But in the same breath I can still say fuck Jimmy Haslam.
I don't think it's possible to lose money in today's NFL. Art Modell lived in a different era.
WSS
But in the same breath I can still say fuck Jimmy Haslam.
This hatred of Haslam from you seems to come from solely the Browns moving on from Baker Mayfield.
Now you'd prefer the owner who actually moved the Browns out of Cleveland?
My goodness, that's a strong take.
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But in the same breath I can still say fuck Jimmy Haslam.
This hatred of Haslam from you seems to come from solely the Browns moving on from Baker Mayfield.
Now you'd prefer the owner who actually moved the Browns out of Cleveland?
My goodness, that's a strong take.
This hatred of Haslam from you seems to come from solely the Browns moving on from Baker Mayfield.
Now you'd prefer the owner who actually moved the Browns out of Cleveland?
My goodness, that's a strong take.
Blow me. Didn't you go off on some sort of rant about Flying J? And yes in today's NFL with the guaranteed profit margin? Yes Apples to Apples I would rather have Art Modell without the spectre of bankruptcy over his left shoulder.
And speaking of preferences I'd rather Cleveland had put up the money that Baltimore put up.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
F****** Haslam is flush with money. If art had that much dough back in the day he never would have gone bankrupt and had to move or sell.
WSS
Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
He did retire a hero, in Baltimore, and with a Lombardi.
He didn't need to stay in Cleveland for that.
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Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
He did retire a hero, in Baltimore, and with a Lombardi.
He didn't need to stay in Cleveland for that.
He did retire a hero, in Baltimore, and with a Lombardi.
He didn't need to stay in Cleveland for that.
Yeah, I saw his little dance when he won his Lombardi- that should have been Cleveland's. However, he needed more than the $80 million from Maryland and Baltimore, and even that wasn't enough. Biscotti saved him from the embarrassment of getting foreclosed on.
Thinking just the City of Cleveland could ever have come up with enough cash to keep Art happy isn't realistic. It would have taken massive amounts of cash from the state of Ohio and Cuyahoga county on top of that.
PS- Now we have a 23 year old stadium that was thrown together on the quick & cheap that (in NFL parlance) is due to be replaced. And I did say way back his family should have had Art cremated. He officially got his grave pissed on.
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He did retire a hero, in Baltimore, and with a Lombardi.
He didn't need to stay in Cleveland for that.
Yeah, I saw his little dance when he won his Lombardi- that should have been Cleveland's. However, he needed more than the $80 million from Maryland and Baltimore, and even that wasn't enough. Biscotti saved him from the embarrassment of getting foreclosed on.
Thinking just the City of Cleveland could ever have come up with enough cash to keep Art happy isn't realistic. It would have taken massive amounts of cash from the state of Ohio and Cuyahoga county on top of that.
PS- Now we have a 23 year old stadium that was thrown together on the quick & cheap that (in NFL parlance) is due to be replaced. And I did say way back his family should have had Art cremated. He officially got his grave pissed on.
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Fact is Steve, Modell never had enough... Just kept on refinancing those loans until he didn't have enough cash flow to even pay the interest on them. "Sorry Art you're not rich enough to own an NFL team anymore."
And stop kissing that traitors ass... He had the original sweetheart deal... Rent at the Stadium for a Buck a year, and all the concession money. Could have sold out to Lerner, and retired a hero... Wanted to pass the team down to his cigar chompin' (now dead) kid. Karma caught up with him. If he meant well, then so does Haslam.
First of all I am by no means campaigning to put Art In the Hall of fame. In classical theater it's called the tragic flaw in which if the character commits an offense that cannot be forgiven he can't live at the end of the play. Moving the team was the tragic flaw. That again had a perfect world city council the mayor Etc should have ponied up what was necessary like Baltimore did and the league should have told him to sell to Al Lerner. But they didn't
But in the same breath I can still say fuck Jimmy Haslam.
I don't think it's possible to lose money in today's NFL. Art Modell lived in a different era.
WSS
First of all I am by no means campaigning to put Art In the Hall of fame. In classical theater it's called the tragic flaw in which if the character commits an offense that cannot be forgiven he can't live at the end of the play. Moving the team was the tragic flaw. That again had a perfect world city council the mayor Etc should have ponied up what was necessary like Baltimore did and the league should have told him to sell to Al Lerner. But they didn't
But in the same breath I can still say fuck Jimmy Haslam.
I don't think it's possible to lose money in today's NFL. Art Modell lived in a different era.
WSS
I'm sure you remember back in the days when signs were allowed in the stadium... "JUMP ART, AND LAND ON BILL".
Modell's era wasn't all that different Steve.. Already said Artie was getting a ton of revenue from the old stadium. Was offered to be a part of Gateway, and he turned it down. In the world of finance, Artie is a classic case of over extending yourself. Getting out the handy inflation calculator Artie bought the Browns for around $2.5 million (in today's dollars) put up around $625k of his own money, and financed the rest. Instead of retiring his debt, Modell just kept on keeping on taking out ever bigger and bigger loans against the wildly increasing value of NFL franchises. It caught up with him in the end.
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He did retire a hero, in Baltimore, and with a Lombardi.
He didn't need to stay in Cleveland for that.
Yeah, I saw his little dance when he won his Lombardi- that should have been Cleveland's. However, he needed more than the $80 million from Maryland and Baltimore, and even that wasn't enough. Biscotti saved him from the embarrassment of getting foreclosed on.
Thinking just the City of Cleveland could ever have come up with enough cash to keep Art happy isn't realistic. It would have taken massive amounts of cash from the state of Ohio and Cuyahoga county on top of that.
PS- Now we have a 23 year old stadium that was thrown together on the quick & cheap that (in NFL parlance) is due to be replaced. And I did say way back his family should have had Art cremated. He officially got his grave pissed on.
Yeah, I saw his little dance when he won his Lombardi- that should have been Cleveland's. However, he needed more than the $80 million from Maryland and Baltimore, and even that wasn't enough. Biscotti saved him from the embarrassment of getting foreclosed on.
Thinking just the City of Cleveland could ever have come up with enough cash to keep Art happy isn't realistic. It would have taken massive amounts of cash from the state of Ohio and Cuyahoga county on top of that.
PS- Now we have a 23 year old stadium that was thrown together on the quick & cheap that (in NFL parlance) is due to be replaced. And I did say way back his family should have had Art cremated. He officially got his grave pissed on.
Modell was a Jew and Jewish law traditionally forbids cremation. Good thing for him because pissing in his urn would have resulted in much more unfavorable results.
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This hatred of Haslam from you seems to come from solely the Browns moving on from Baker Mayfield.
Now you'd prefer the owner who actually moved the Browns out of Cleveland?
My goodness, that's a strong take.
Blow me. Didn't you go off on some sort of rant about Flying J? And yes in today's NFL with the guaranteed profit margin? Yes Apples to Apples I would rather have Art Modell without the spectre of bankruptcy over his left shoulder.
And speaking of preferences I'd rather Cleveland had put up the money that Baltimore put up.
WSS
Blow me. Didn't you go off on some sort of rant about Flying J? And yes in today's NFL with the guaranteed profit margin? Yes Apples to Apples I would rather have Art Modell without the spectre of bankruptcy over his left shoulder.
And speaking of preferences I'd rather Cleveland had put up the money that Baltimore put up.
WSS
Yes, I went off on a rant about Flying J.
Jimmy scammed trucking businesses out of millions upon millions of dollars, and got away with it, because, well...
But I'm sure that isn't close to the sin that is moving on from Baker Mayfield.
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Blow me. Didn't you go off on some sort of rant about Flying J? And yes in today's NFL with the guaranteed profit margin? Yes Apples to Apples I would rather have Art Modell without the spectre of bankruptcy over his left shoulder.
And speaking of preferences I'd rather Cleveland had put up the money that Baltimore put up.
WSS
Yes, I went off on a rant about Flying J.
Jimmy scammed trucking businesses out of millions upon millions of dollars, and got away with it, because, well...
But I'm sure that isn't close to the sin that is moving on from Baker Mayfield.
Yes, I went off on a rant about Flying J.
Jimmy scammed trucking businesses out of millions upon millions of dollars, and got away with it, because, well...
But I'm sure that isn't close to the sin that is moving on from Baker Mayfield.
He had one winning season in 10 years and also claim the record of the worst team in the National Football League. For the record despite your ridiculous obsession sure I supported keeping Mayfield and building the team but it didn't happen. And still at the end of the day neither Josh Dobbs Josh Rosen Jacoby Brissett Jimmy Garoppolo* or any other quarterback that might possibly be under center in Cleveland have brought a blight to the city and the team like DeShaun Watson and Jimmy haslam. (I'm surprised you didn't wet your pants when somebody mentioned Lenny Dawson.)
WSS
* everyone of their Christian names begins with a j. Coincidence? You decide.
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Yes, I went off on a rant about Flying J.
Jimmy scammed trucking businesses out of millions upon millions of dollars, and got away with it, because, well...
But I'm sure that isn't close to the sin that is moving on from Baker Mayfield.
He had one winning season in 10 years and also claim the record of the worst team in the National Football League. For the record despite your ridiculous obsession sure I supported keeping Mayfield and building the team but it didn't happen. And still at the end of the day neither Josh Dobbs Josh Rosen Jacoby Brissett Jimmy Garoppolo* or any other quarterback that might possibly be under center in Cleveland have brought a blight to the city and the team like DeShaun Watson and Jimmy haslam. (I'm surprised you didn't wet your pants when somebody mentioned Lenny Dawson.)
WSS
* everyone of their Christian names begins with a j. Coincidence? You decide.
He had one winning season in 10 years and also claim the record of the worst team in the National Football League. For the record despite your ridiculous obsession sure I supported keeping Mayfield and building the team but it didn't happen. And still at the end of the day neither Josh Dobbs Josh Rosen Jacoby Brissett Jimmy Garoppolo* or any other quarterback that might possibly be under center in Cleveland have brought a blight to the city and the team like DeShaun Watson and Jimmy haslam. (I'm surprised you didn't wet your pants when somebody mentioned Lenny Dawson.)
WSS
* everyone of their Christian names begins with a j. Coincidence? You decide.
My goodness, Baker talk gets your heart racin'!
I guess you used to get this fired up over Brady Quinn back in the day. I'll give you this, Steven, Baker is waaaaaaay better than Quinn was!
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He had one winning season in 10 years and also claim the record of the worst team in the National Football League. For the record despite your ridiculous obsession sure I supported keeping Mayfield and building the team but it didn't happen. And still at the end of the day neither Josh Dobbs Josh Rosen Jacoby Brissett Jimmy Garoppolo* or any other quarterback that might possibly be under center in Cleveland have brought a blight to the city and the team like DeShaun Watson and Jimmy haslam. (I'm surprised you didn't wet your pants when somebody mentioned Lenny Dawson.)
WSS
* everyone of their Christian names begins with a j. Coincidence? You decide.
My goodness, Baker talk gets your heart racin'!
I guess you used to get this fired up over Brady Quinn back in the day. I'll give you this, Steven, Baker is waaaaaaay better than Quinn was!
Baker is waaaaaaay better than Quinn was!
Quinn really was pretty bad. We've really had a knack for bad 1st round pick QB's. Perhaps we're better off having somebody else's draft pick.
edit: I guess technically we have Rosen on the roster...but that's only for a few more days
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
He had one winning season in 10 years and also claim the record of the worst team in the National Football League. For the record despite your ridiculous obsession sure I supported keeping Mayfield and building the team but it didn't happen. And still at the end of the day neither Josh Dobbs Josh Rosen Jacoby Brissett Jimmy Garoppolo* or any other quarterback that might possibly be under center in Cleveland have brought a blight to the city and the team like DeShaun Watson and Jimmy haslam. (I'm surprised you didn't wet your pants when somebody mentioned Lenny Dawson.)
WSS
* everyone of their Christian names begins with a j. Coincidence? You decide.
My goodness, Baker talk gets your heart racin'!
I guess you used to get this fired up over Brady Quinn back in the day. I'll give you this, Steven, Baker is waaaaaaay better than Quinn was!
My goodness, Baker talk gets your heart racin'!
I guess you used to get this fired up over Brady Quinn back in the day. I'll give you this, Steven, Baker is waaaaaaay better than Quinn was!
You're the guy taking a dump in your drawers because I took a shot at Jimmy Haslam so one more time with feeling blow me.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Yeah, I saw his little dance when he won his Lombardi- that should have been Cleveland's. However, he needed more than the $80 million from Maryland and Baltimore, and even that wasn't enough. Biscotti saved him from the embarrassment of getting foreclosed on.
Thinking just the City of Cleveland could ever have come up with enough cash to keep Art happy isn't realistic. It would have taken massive amounts of cash from the state of Ohio and Cuyahoga county on top of that.
PS- Now we have a 23 year old stadium that was thrown together on the quick & cheap that (in NFL parlance) is due to be replaced. And I did say way back his family should have had Art cremated. He officially got his grave pissed on.
Modell was a Jew and Jewish law traditionally forbids cremation. Good thing for him because pissing in his urn would have resulted in much more unfavorable results.
Modell was a Jew and Jewish law traditionally forbids cremation. Good thing for him because pissing in his urn would have resulted in much more unfavorable results.
Hey, I'd be all for that...
Up close and personal. Ya learn something new every day, I didn't know Jews are pretty against cremation. Adds another POV on the Nazis oven roasting to ashes the Holocaust victims.
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