Depth Chart Released
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OFFENSE
WR 16 Joshua Cribbs 88 Mike Furrey 80 Brian Robiskie
LT 73 Joe Thomas
LG 65 Eric Steinbach
C 66 Hank Fraley 55 Alex Mack
RG 77 Floyd Womack 70 Rex Hadnot
RT 78 John St. Clair Phil Trautwein
TE 84 Robert Royal 82 Steve Heiden 86 Martin Rucker
WR 17 Braylon Edwards 11 Mohamed Massaquoi
QB
RB 31 Jamal Lewis 35 Jerome Harrison 28 James Davis, Cedric Peerman
FB 47 Lawrence Vickers
DEFENSE
DE 90 Kenyon Coleman 69 C.J. Mosley
NT 92 Shaun Rogers 71 Ahtyba Rubin
DE 98 Robaire Smith 99 Corey Williams
LOLB 95 Kamerion Wimbley
ILB 52 D'Qwell Jackson 57 David Veikune
ILB 50 Eric Barton 56 Kaluka Maiava 44 Blake Costanzo
ROLB 96 David Bowens 51 Alex Hall 94 Leon Williams
LCB 24 Eric Wright 23 Hank Poteat Marquis Floyd
RCB 22 Brandon McDonald 25 Coye Francies 30 Gerard Lawson
SS 26 Abram Elam 27 Nick Sorensen
FS 21 Brodney Pool 20 Mike Adams DeAngelo Smith
SPECIAL TEAMS
P 15 Dave Zastudil
K 4 Phil Dawson
H 15 Dave Zastudil
PR 16 Joshua Cribbs 30 Gerard Lawson 35 Jerome Harrison
KOR 16 Joshua Cribbs 30 Gerard Lawson 35 Jerome Harrison
LS 64 Ryan Pontbriand
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I would have to think Fraley and Mack will both see action Sunday. The Williams boys are quite a load.
Also, I wonder if Rex will be active for Sunday's game.
We need all our linement protecting Quinn if we hope to have a chance. Minnesota might be the best defense we'll see outside our own division this year.
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No surprise with Cribbs and I expect Mack to start.
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The biggest surprise to me would be having Cribbs still handle kickoff returns while being a WR.
I would have expected them to still have him returning punts, but to have him be WR and return punts and kickoffs? That's just begging for the guy to get dinged up on a kickoff return.
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Hmm... Harrison still listed ahead of Davis.
Hmm... He does average 7.2 yards a carry
Seriously though you guys are so high on davis who has done nothing yet that you forgot about arguably our most explosive offensive player last year despite his VERY limited touches.
Pitt game 1 -- 1 touch 23 yards
Baltimore 1 touch 19 yards 1 td
Giants 4 touches (wow, a whole 4) 67 yards
Etc. Etc.
He is a "proven" playmaker if you will why should he be behind a rookie
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I'm not necessarily up or down on either of them.
I just thought it was interesting since James Davis blew the doors off both training camp and the preseason games, and Jerome Harrison had a total of 0 touches, and Mangini still put Harrison ahead.
Not saying it's wrong, however.
I hope they both get the ball a dick load.
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I can't remember hearing the name Phil Trautwein all pre season... Did we just acquire him??
Is he a gamer or a project??? Just wondering...
Peace
T.Dawg
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I can't remember hearing the name Phil Trautwein all pre season... Did we just acquire him??
Is he a gamer or a project??? Just wondering...
Peace
T.Dawg
I can't remember hearing the name Phil Trautwein all pre season... Did we just acquire him??
Is he a gamer or a project??? Just wondering...
Peace
T.Dawg
Yes. Just yesterday or today.
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Does anyone know anything about the guy, his background or anything???
Peace
T.Dawg
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Sure hope that Mack adjusts better within time. I think we are spoiled though after having Joe Thomas come in as a rookie and play every snap and go to the Pro-Bowl.
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as long as Mack is a force to be reckoned with by 2011 i'm fine with baby steps now. that position takes time but he has a good mentor in Hank. on the other side of the coin it probably motivates Hank to step up his game. like i said before, he looks much bigger than last year.
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Zombo said:
Cribbs listed as a starter at WR on depth chart now ... makes me scratch my head as to why they didn't get his deal re-done during the off-season ... he could be commanding a boatload by week four if he gets off to a good start at both PR and WR.Zombo
To me, it would be bad business to pay Cribbs like a legit #2 WR until he shows it on the field. So my guess is they are waiting to see if his play matches his demands. If his play is commanding of a boatload, by season end, he'll get his $$$.
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The scariest thing I see is Phil Trautwein. He's our 3rd OT. Seriously? If Thomas or St Clair go down we have a guy called Phil Trautwein.
Man, I'd love to have him guarding my blindside.....
The scariest thing I see is Phil Trautwein. He's our 3rd OT. Seriously? If Thomas or St Clair go down we have a guy called Phil Trautwein.
Man, I'd love to have him guarding my blindside.....
He's only the 3rd tackle because the team was required to put out a depth chart. Actually Steinbach is the backup at LT and maybe even RT. Womack played some RT in preseason. Trautwein isn't going to see the field if someone gets hurt. Mack has been practicing with the 1st team this week and Furrey is the slot receiver. In two receiver sets it has been Cribbs and MoMass splitting time depending if Cribbs is coming off a long return and needs a blow or not.
That depth chart isn't what you will see on game day. Poteat has been playing the nickle and Adams comes in in dime situations in place of Elam. Maiava has been subbing when they go to the 46 defense (maybe because Bowens was banged up). There are a lot of situational groupings that make the depth chart unreal. A lot of subbing at OLB, DL and DBs depending on situations.
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Trautwein is developmental and meets the Mangie standards.
Steiny is the third tackle at this point, where their depth rest with inside guys that can step in while Steiny moves to either tackle. Maybe Poke Chop moves to RT, but Steiny goes to LT.
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The scariest thing I see is Phil Trautwein. He's our 3rd OT. Seriously? If Thomas or St Clair go down we have a guy called Phil Trautwein.
Man, I'd love to have him guarding my blindside.....
He's only the 3rd tackle because the team was required to put out a depth chart. Actually Steinbach is the backup at LT and maybe even RT. Womack played some RT in preseason. Trautwein isn't going to see the field if someone gets hurt. Mack has been practicing with the 1st team this week and Furrey is the slot receiver. In two receiver sets it has been Cribbs and MoMass splitting time depending if Cribbs is coming off a long return and needs a blow or not.
That depth chart isn't what you will see on game day. Poteat has been playing the nickle and Adams comes in in dime situations in place of Elam. Maiava has been subbing when they go to the 46 defense (maybe because Bowens was banged up). There are a lot of situational groupings that make the depth chart unreal. A lot of subbing at OLB, DL and DBs depending on situations.
He's only the 3rd tackle because the team was required to put out a depth chart. Actually Steinbach is the backup at LT and maybe even RT. Womack played some RT in preseason. Trautwein isn't going to see the field if someone gets hurt. Mack has been practicing with the 1st team this week and Furrey is the slot receiver. In two receiver sets it has been Cribbs and MoMass splitting time depending if Cribbs is coming off a long return and needs a blow or not.
That depth chart isn't what you will see on game day. Poteat has been playing the nickle and Adams comes in in dime situations in place of Elam. Maiava has been subbing when they go to the 46 defense (maybe because Bowens was banged up). There are a lot of situational groupings that make the depth chart unreal. A lot of subbing at OLB, DL and DBs depending on situations.
I understand how the depth chart works but it still screams to me that we lack any substantial depth at OT. Steinback at tackle scares the hell out of me. He doesn't have a big enough butt or legs to be on the bookend.
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it may not be ideal Squintz but look at what they gain: they are carrying 10 LB's (!)...that's a wet dream for the 3-4 (and special teams). lots of DB's too. cost/benefit ratio IMO is only moderate risk, but huge upside.
i love that Mangenie is granting our wishes and attempting to solidify the defense. it's what we need in the AFCN.
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