★ 12/6/22 - Trump companies found GUILTY on all 17 counts of tax fraud and other crimes.
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JUST IN from CBS News .... ( I still have to clean up the post. Getting rid of footnotes, white spaces, etc. A 7 week trial and a lot of evidence and other information. AND DONALD J TRUMP IS LIKELY TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS, TO BE CONTINUED. NOT GOOD LEGAL NEWS FOR DJT. )
★ A jury in New York has found two Trump Organization companies guilty on all charges of tax fraud and other crimes. The verdict on 17 criminal counts was announced in court Tuesday afternoon.
The jury began Monday around noon, after testimony and closing arguments wrapped up in the six-week trial.
The two Trump Organization companies, called the Trump Corporation and Trump Payroll Corporation, were indicted in July 2021, along with the company's longtime chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, and accused of using a variety of methods to reduce payroll liability from executive salaries through untaxed bonuses and luxury perks worth millions.
Weisselberg pleaded guilty in August and agreed to testify against the company as part of a deal with prosecutors. He is expected to face a five-month jail sentence.
Former president Donald Trump was not charged in the case, but Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has said Trump remains under investigation. The office's probe began in 2018 under Bragg's predecessor, Cyrus Vance Jr. The investigation initially targeted hush-money payments made by former Trump lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen during the 2016 presidential campaign to adult film star Stormy Daniels, but later widened to include the corporate tax
Cohen was rarely mentioned during the trial, but Trump's name was invoked frequently by both sides. Weisselberg spent several days on the stand testifying about the tax schemes. He and two witnesses who received immunity during prior grand jury proceedings — current company controller Jeffrey McConney and outside accountant Donald Bender — described a series of methods used by Trump Organization executives to avoid taxes, and payroll liability, on large bonuses and luxury benefits. Cohen was rarely mentioned during the trial, but Trump's name was invoked frequently by both sides.WEISSELBERG.....Jurors were told about an internal "clean up" conducted in 2017 at the Trump Organization after Trump became president. The company hired an outside lawyer to examine its tax practices. Her review led the company to cease many of the practices that led to these criminal charges, multiple witnesses testified.
The Trump Organization's lawyers said Trump and his company were "betrayed" by Weisselberg, and they accused Bender of failing to protect the company from Weisselberg.
"Weisselberg did it for Weisselberg," the lawyers said repeatedly, a phrase a prosecutor later called their "mantra."Prosecutors said Weisselberg was one of several executives who received large annual bonus checks, signed by Trump and logged as if they were payments to independent contractors, and luxury perks such as high-end apartments, private school tuition and cars that were not reported as salary.
And Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Joshua Steinglass said during his closing argument that Trump knew about it.
"The fact is this was sanctioned, and that the practice was known to Mr. Trump," Steinglass said.
Defense attorneys said Trump was unaware of the schemes playing out beneath him, while prosecutors said he signed off on them.
The Trump Organization faces up to $1.6 million in fines if convicted in the case.
New York Attorney General Letitia James has indicated the jury's findings could have bearing on a civil case being pursued by her office. Her office conducted a parallel civil investigation and assigned two prosecutors to work on the Manhattan District Attorney's probe. While the criminal case is tightly focused on executive compensation, the civil case — filed in September — accuses the company, Trump and three of his children of a widespread, yearslong effort to commit fraud and manipulate property valuation
The company and the Trumps deny all allegations in that case, which is scheduled to go to trial in October 2023.
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New York Attorney General Letitia James has indicated the jury's findings could have bearing on a civil case being pursued by her office. Her office conducted a parallel civil investigation and assigned two prosecutors to work on the Manhattan District Attorney's probe. While the criminal case is tightly focused on executive compensation, the civil case — filed in September — accuses the company, Trump and three of his children of a widespread, yearslong effort to commit fraud and manipulate property valuation
The company and the Trumps deny all allegations in that case, which is scheduled to go to trial in October 2023.
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I don’t think it matters.
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Trump is history for being reelected.
Trump is history for being reelected.
Especially since he's never been reelected. Trump won the only political race in his whole life. Lost reelection even after running it through the courts what was he 1-61 ? Laughed out of every courthouse in America.
I think his run of bs and lies might just about be over ...... but I'll wait on that final call. His October 2023 court case might just bury him.
Maybe he can do an Apprentice show from prison.
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Trump is history for being reelected.
Especially since he's never been reelected. Trump won the only political race in his whole life. Lost reelection even after running it through the courts what was he 1-61 ? Laughed out of every courthouse in America.
I think his run of bs and lies might just about be over ...... but I'll wait on that final call. His October 2023 court case might just bury him.
Maybe he can do an Apprentice show from prison.
Maybe he can do an Apprentice show from prison.
Don't you read your own post?
It states that Trump wasn't charged with anything.
Such as the case with our beloved Browns owner Mr. Haslam, Trump was unaware of the dealings that took place under him.
Only $1.6 million in fines? Thats chump change, or shall we say "Trump change". Must not be as sensational a story as you're making it out to be.
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Maybe he can do an Apprentice show from prison.
Don't you read your own post?
It states that Trump wasn't charged with anything.
Such as the case with our beloved Browns owner Mr. Haslam, Trump was unaware of the dealings that took place under him.
Only $1.6 million in fines? Thats chump change, or shall we say "Trump change". Must not be as sensational a story as you're making it out to be.
Don't you read your own post?
It states that Trump wasn't charged with anything.
Such as the case with our beloved Browns owner Mr. Haslam, Trump was unaware of the dealings that took place under him.
Only $1.6 million in fines? Thats chump change, or shall we say "Trump change". Must not be as sensational a story as you're making it out to be.
Oh I'm quite aware of the details of this 17 count guilty on his company as they released so far. Some of Trump’s key people pled guilty and we see where that goes. Trump and his current lawyers realize the trouble they're in so far.
And his upcoming October 2023 trial has their attention now despite other ongoing tax and other problems.
Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Don't you read your own post?
It states that Trump wasn't charged with anything.
Such as the case with our beloved Browns owner Mr. Haslam, Trump was unaware of the dealings that took place under him.
Only $1.6 million in fines? Thats chump change, or shall we say "Trump change". Must not be as sensational a story as you're making it out to be.
Oh I'm quite aware of the details of this 17 count guilty on his company as they released so far. Some of Trump’s key people pled guilty and we see where that goes. Trump and his current lawyers realize the trouble they're in so far.
And his upcoming October 2023 trial has their attention now despite other ongoing tax and other problems.
Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
It took them long enough, but I guess when you have the MSM, DOJ, FBI, it was a matter of time before they found anything on him or his business.
Too bad these same bastards won’t overturn any stones for people like Biden, Piglosi, Schumer, Obama, or any other ranking Libtard.
They sure as hell aren’t squeaky clean, it’s just nobody has turned the dogs loose on them.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I really don't understand why people are cheering this on. If he runs in 2024, he gives the Democrats a better chance of winning. I, for one, would be grateful if this took him out of the running, because his ego is clearly too big to call his own number. I'm all in on DeSantis.
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Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
It took them long enough, but I guess when you have the MSM, DOJ, FBI, it was a matter of time before they found anything on him or his business.
Too bad these same bastards won’t overturn any stones for people like Biden, Piglosi, Schumer, Obama, or any other ranking Libtard.
They sure as hell aren’t squeaky clean, it’s just nobody has turned the dogs loose on them.
It took them long enough, but I guess when you have the MSM, DOJ, FBI, it was a matter of time before they found anything on him or his business.
Too bad these same bastards won’t overturn any stones for people like Biden, Piglosi, Schumer, Obama, or any other ranking Libtard.
They sure as hell aren’t squeaky clean, it’s just nobody has turned the dogs loose on them.
They will overturn all stones when they have the control. That’s how it work
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"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
It took them long enough, but I guess when you have the MSM, DOJ, FBI, it was a matter of time before they found anything on him or his business.
Too bad these same bastards won’t overturn any stones for people like Biden, Piglosi, Schumer, Obama, or any other ranking Libtard.
They sure as hell aren’t squeaky clean, it’s just nobody has turned the dogs loose on them.
They will overturn all stones when they have the control. That’s how it work
T
They will overturn all stones when they have the control. That’s how it work
T
Unfortunately that is true, presidential politics (even state races) in the past few elections have turned into a nasty mud slinging event. Hopefully some civility will return on both sides soon. We just need some good Republicans vs Democrats elections and ten shake hands and go about running the country's business not what this has evolved intolately.
The internet and outside influences have changed the way things have gone. Hopefully. the 2024 races will be better ..... hopefully. SO peace everyone !
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It took them long enough, but I guess when you have the MSM, DOJ, FBI, it was a matter of time before they found anything on him or his business.
Too bad these same bastards won’t overturn any stones for people like Biden, Piglosi, Schumer, Obama, or any other ranking Libtard.
They sure as hell aren’t squeaky clean, it’s just nobody has turned the dogs loose on them.
They will overturn all stones when they have the control. That’s how it work
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They will overturn all stones when they have the control. That’s how it work
T
Probably. Of course it's a Witch Hunt and there is no corporation that size in the world that could withstand this kind of persecution. I would venture to say not one member of this board. The weaponization of the tax code should be frightening to anybody but of course it sounds great if you're single focus is Trump hatred.
WSS
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Don't you read your own post?
It states that Trump wasn't charged with anything.
Such as the case with our beloved Browns owner Mr. Haslam, Trump was unaware of the dealings that took place under him.
Only $1.6 million in fines? Thats chump change, or shall we say "Trump change". Must not be as sensational a story as you're making it out to be.
Oh I'm quite aware of the details of this 17 count guilty on his company as they released so far. Some of Trump’s key people pled guilty and we see where that goes. Trump and his current lawyers realize the trouble they're in so far.
And his upcoming October 2023 trial has their attention now despite other ongoing tax and other problems.
Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
Oh I'm quite aware of the details of this 17 count guilty on his company as they released so far. Some of Trump’s key people pled guilty and we see where that goes. Trump and his current lawyers realize the trouble they're in so far.
And his upcoming October 2023 trial has their attention now despite other ongoing tax and other problems.
Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
OH WOW!
I suppose the potential is there for career businessmen, don't ya think?
Former presidents were career politicians, not career businessmen, and if the left ever decided not to look the other way, Biden would be in more hot water than any previous president as well.
I bet if the powers that be dug deep enough within big business, they would uncover some sort of wrongdoing enough to levy a paltry $1.6 million in fines.
Answer this question.
Had Trump never had interest in politics, therefore never becoming president, do you believe these investigations would be taking place?
Anyone with half a brain should be able to concur by now that this 6 year effort to delegitimize or criminalize Trump for none other than the purpose of getting rid of him.
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Oh I'm quite aware of the details of this 17 count guilty on his company as they released so far. Some of Trump’s key people pled guilty and we see where that goes. Trump and his current lawyers realize the trouble they're in so far.
And his upcoming October 2023 trial has their attention now despite other ongoing tax and other problems.
Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
OH WOW!
I suppose the potential is there for career businessmen, don't ya think?
Former presidents were career politicians, not career businessmen, and if the left ever decided not to look the other way, Biden would be in more hot water than any previous president as well.
I bet if the powers that be dug deep enough within big business, they would uncover some sort of wrongdoing enough to levy a paltry $1.6 million in fines.
Answer this question.
Had Trump never had interest in politics, therefore never becoming president, do you believe these investigations would be taking place?
Anyone with half a brain should be able to concur by now that this 6 year effort to delegitimize or criminalize Trump for none other than the purpose of getting rid of him.
OH WOW!
I suppose the potential is there for career businessmen, don't ya think?
Former presidents were career politicians, not career businessmen, and if the left ever decided not to look the other way, Biden would be in more hot water than any previous president as well.
I bet if the powers that be dug deep enough within big business, they would uncover some sort of wrongdoing enough to levy a paltry $1.6 million in fines.
Answer this question.
Had Trump never had interest in politics, therefore never becoming president, do you believe these investigations would be taking place?
Anyone with half a brain should be able to concur by now that this 6 year effort to delegitimize or criminalize Trump for none other than the purpose of getting rid of him.
And in the back of mind always was a quote by Mario Puzo.. "Behind every Millionaire are a Million crimes"
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I really don't understand why people are cheering this on. If he runs in 2024, he gives the Democrats a better chance of winning. I, for one, would be grateful if this took him out of the running, because his ego is clearly too big to call his own number. I'm all in on DeSantis.
I really don't understand why people are cheering this on. If he runs in 2024, he gives the Democrats a better chance of winning. I, for one, would be grateful if this took him out of the running, because his ego is clearly too big to call his own number. I'm all in on DeSantis.
My feelings exactly. I wish he would get locked up just to prevent him from running.
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I really don't understand why people are cheering this on. If he runs in 2024, he gives the Democrats a better chance of winning. I, for one, would be grateful if this took him out of the running, because his ego is clearly too big to call his own number. I'm all in on DeSantis.
My feelings exactly. I wish he would get locked up just to prevent him from running.
My feelings exactly. I wish he would get locked up just to prevent him from running.
That would be the only way to prevent a win. You guys know it as well as I do there's going to be a handful of rinos and that will split the vote equally amongst themselves.
WSS
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Oh I'm quite aware of the details of this 17 count guilty on his company as they released so far. Some of Trump’s key people pled guilty and we see where that goes. Trump and his current lawyers realize the trouble they're in so far.
And his upcoming October 2023 trial has their attention now despite other ongoing tax and other problems.
Trump is in hot water that NO previous former president has ever been in before. That may or maybe will be his lasting legacy. We'll see ......
OH WOW!
I suppose the potential is there for career businessmen, don't ya think?
Former presidents were career politicians, not career businessmen, and if the left ever decided not to look the other way, Biden would be in more hot water than any previous president as well.
I bet if the powers that be dug deep enough within big business, they would uncover some sort of wrongdoing enough to levy a paltry $1.6 million in fines.
Answer this question.
Had Trump never had interest in politics, therefore never becoming president, do you believe these investigations would be taking place?
Anyone with half a brain should be able to concur by now that this 6 year effort to delegitimize or criminalize Trump for none other than the purpose of getting rid of him.
OH WOW!
I suppose the potential is there for career businessmen, don't ya think?
Former presidents were career politicians, not career businessmen, and if the left ever decided not to look the other way, Biden would be in more hot water than any previous president as well.
I bet if the powers that be dug deep enough within big business, they would uncover some sort of wrongdoing enough to levy a paltry $1.6 million in fines.
Answer this question.
Had Trump never had interest in politics, therefore never becoming president, do you believe these investigations would be taking place?
Anyone with half a brain should be able to concur by now that this 6 year effort to delegitimize or criminalize Trump for none other than the purpose of getting rid of No doubt
NO doubt if someone else did something like this you probably wouldn't hear about it.
BUT being a president is as public as you can ever get.
That's easy to understand.
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OH WOW!
I suppose the potential is there for career businessmen, don't ya think?
Former presidents were career politicians, not career businessmen, and if the left ever decided not to look the other way, Biden would be in more hot water than any previous president as well.
I bet if the powers that be dug deep enough within big business, they would uncover some sort of wrongdoing enough to levy a paltry $1.6 million in fines.
Answer this question.
Had Trump never had interest in politics, therefore never becoming president, do you believe these investigations would be taking place?
Anyone with half a brain should be able to concur by now that this 6 year effort to delegitimize or criminalize Trump for none other than the purpose of getting rid of No doubt
NO doubt if someone else did something like this you probably wouldn't hear about it.
BUT being a president is as public as you can ever get.
That's easy to understand.
NO doubt if someone else did something like this you probably wouldn't hear about it.
BUT being a president is as public as you can ever get.
That's easy to understand.
Correct. But were not those "crimes" committed before serving as a public servant that is the presidency.? While on your time and mine.
What he did prior to becoming president is of no concern. He did one hell of a job in doing what he was elected to do...to which you will never admit to only because the guy rubs you the wrong way.
His alleged shady business dealings prior to becoming president are irrelevant. What you people on the left are trying to do is make it relevant for obvious reasons.
You have no comment on Bidens shady business dealings coverup...him being involved in corruption while acting as a public servant?
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And it becomes Tit for Tat, this is what the Dems started and will probably continue into the future.
Their vile hate for the Bad Orange Man took precedence over running the country.
I can’t wait for the shoe to be on the other foot.
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