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  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/cleveland-browns-fire-defensive-coordinator-joe-woods-report-tom-pelissero-nfl-network/95-0bfe381c-ec43-464f-a25f-2bbf3e39ae64

     He is.

     Kevin  Stefansky moves to the head of the scapegoat line 

     WSS

    Yep, I think Kev gets another year but his seat is getting warm.

    In hindsight, the Browns finished with a worse record than an injured Mayfield 2021 season.

    Somehow we were told that “we are just a QB upgrade away from being a contender” fable.

    However, as long as Depud stays in place the scenery will stay the same.

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

    Yep, I think Kev gets another year but his seat is getting warm.

    In hindsight, the Browns finished with a worse record than an injured Mayfield 2021 season.

    Somehow we were told that “we are just a QB upgrade away from being a contender” fable.

    However, as long as Depud stays in place the scenery will stay the same.

    sad, but right on point. How many wrong choices of HC does it take to realize it's who picks the coaches that is the problem? And it's true - the pitiful Mayfield playing with a broken shoulder experiment failed, and still they won more games than this year. And THAT is WITHOUT a star wideout - Amari Cooper. Without Cooper, watson would have been a worse dud.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Yep, I think Kev gets another year but his seat is getting warm.

    In hindsight, the Browns finished with a worse record than an injured Mayfield 2021 season.

    Somehow we were told that “we are just a QB upgrade away from being a contender” fable.

    However, as long as Depud stays in place the scenery will stay the same.

    sad, but right on point. How many wrong choices of HC does it take to realize it's who picks the coaches that is the problem? And it's true - the pitiful Mayfield playing with a broken shoulder experiment failed, and still they won more games than this year. And THAT is WITHOUT a star wideout - Amari Cooper. Without Cooper, watson would have been a worse dud.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    sad, but right on point. How many wrong choices of HC does it take to realize it's who picks the coaches that is the problem? And it's true - the pitiful Mayfield playing with a broken shoulder experiment failed, and still they won more games than this year. And THAT is WITHOUT a star wideout - Amari Cooper. Without Cooper, watson would have been a worse dud.

    Watson looks washed up already. Id rather start Brissett next season...

  • DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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    Gotta give Watson a full year a starter before I make any judgements.  

  • Gotta give Watson a full year a starter before I make any judgements.  

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Gotta give Watson a full year a starter before I make any judgements.  

    He's garbage...

  • F FY56 wrote on last edited by
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    That was a playoff game for the Steelers. A must win.

    We did have a QB once that beat the Steelers in their house in a playoff game, so it can be done.

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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    This Mayfield love is making me sick. 

  • It is Official.

    Woods relieved of his duties as D Coordinator 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @sdbacker80 said:

    It is Official.

    Woods relieved of his duties as D Coordinator 

    And like the old saying goes ....  "it's easier to get rid of one coach than   _ _  (?) number of players "....  but in this case it seems to be a step in the right direction. 

    Would the awful play caller might be next ?   R sure seemed like a good idea this past season. 

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    I'll just say it right now... I expect no better results next year... Haslam still owns it and Shithispantski  is still part of of it...

  • That was a playoff game for the Steelers. A must win.

    We did have a QB once that beat the Steelers in their house in a playoff game, so it can be done.

    N Neo wrote on last edited by
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    @fy56 said:

    That was a playoff game for the Steelers. A must win.

    We did have a QB once that beat the Steelers in their house in a playoff game, so it can be done.

    Didn't realize Watson played defense too. That blown coverage was an absolute back breaker. Nick Chubb hardly used. Yeah, Watson made some bad throws but is hardly the sole reason for the loss.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    It is Official.

    Woods relieved of his duties as D Coordinator 

    And like the old saying goes ....  "it's easier to get rid of one coach than   _ _  (?) number of players "....  but in this case it seems to be a step in the right direction. 

    Would the awful play caller might be next ?   R sure seemed like a good idea this past season. 

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    And like the old saying goes ....  "it's easier to get rid of one coach than   _ _  (?) number of players "....  but in this case it seems to be a step in the right direction. 

    Would the awful play caller might be next ?   R sure seemed like a good idea this past season. 

    I for one would like to see Stefanski get that offensive play calling sheet away from his face, and actually see what’s going on.

    It seems he can’t relinquish his former life as an OC.

  • @mjp28 said:

    And like the old saying goes ....  "it's easier to get rid of one coach than   _ _  (?) number of players "....  but in this case it seems to be a step in the right direction. 

    Would the awful play caller might be next ?   R sure seemed like a good idea this past season. 

    I for one would like to see Stefanski get that offensive play calling sheet away from his face, and actually see what’s going on.

    It seems he can’t relinquish his former life as an OC.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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    @canton-dawg said:

    I for one would like to see Stefanski get that offensive play calling sheet away from his face, and actually see what’s going on.

    It seems he can’t relinquish his former life as an OC.

    Man, this is it for me too. I'm all for giving Stef one more year as I have been an unwilling passenger on the Browns' new Head Coach carrousel before and all it does is make us sick. 

    But he has got to give away play calling in my eyes to have any chance at being successful. If he is allowed to call plays next year, he will compete to be the first Head Coach fired in early November. 

  • BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar wrote on last edited by
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    I was never a Joe Woods fan. Never an in game adjustment. As for Stefanski I  agree with  the above statements he needs to give up the play calling! Just be the head coach! Get in the ears of the coordinators,coaches,players, and the REFs!!!! He needs to have more fire? AND put more BOOTS TO ASSES!!! OR hire a defensive coordinator who can!?

    GO BROWNS!!!

  • I was never a Joe Woods fan. Never an in game adjustment. As for Stefanski I  agree with  the above statements he needs to give up the play calling! Just be the head coach! Get in the ears of the coordinators,coaches,players, and the REFs!!!! He needs to have more fire? AND put more BOOTS TO ASSES!!! OR hire a defensive coordinator who can!?

    GO BROWNS!!!

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    @brownsnmopar said:

    I was never a Joe Woods fan. Never an in game adjustment. As for Stefanski I  agree with  the above statements he needs to give up the play calling! Just be the head coach! Get in the ears of the coordinators,coaches,players, and the REFs!!!! He needs to have more fire? AND put more BOOTS TO ASSES!!! OR hire a defensive coordinator who can!?

    GO BROWNS!!!

    I don't disagree, but in this era I'm not sure the players accept an " in your face" type style. 

    If anybody needs that it's our LT Wills. That guy appears to have no motivation.

  • N Neo wrote on last edited by
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    To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

  • N Neo

    To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    @neo said:

    To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

    1. Mayfield won more games his injured year than the browns this year.

    2. Being off two years WAS SOLELY watson's OWN FAULT.

    3. 230 million GUARANTEED and THREE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS for somebody who has "rust" ?

    4. watson got sacked all his career at a very high rate. That includes college, with no "rust" excuse.

    5. Face it, he  did NOT want to play for the browns. They should NEVER have given him that historically huge contract.

  • @neo said:

    To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

    1. Mayfield won more games his injured year than the browns this year.

    2. Being off two years WAS SOLELY watson's OWN FAULT.

    3. 230 million GUARANTEED and THREE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS for somebody who has "rust" ?

    4. watson got sacked all his career at a very high rate. That includes college, with no "rust" excuse.

    5. Face it, he  did NOT want to play for the browns. They should NEVER have given him that historically huge contract.

    N Neo wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    Being off two years WAS SOLELY watson's OWN FAULT.

    So Mayfield's injury not his own fault? Because I remember him taking on a DB with a full head of steam. Instead of playing hero, he should have let him go, or learn how to tackle properly. What about choosing to play injured and not getting his shoulder repaired, not his fault?

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    Stumbled upon this a little bit ago. . .

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  • N Neo wrote on last edited by
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    I'm so sick of hearing people complaining about Watson. If you actually watched yesterday's game, the Browns were pass heavy which meant Steelers just pinned their ears back and went after Watson. The way the game was flowing is points were hard to come by, Steelers offense wasn't doing much. The blown coverage for a TD in a tight game was a killer, I didn't see how they would recover from that considering how well the D was playing early on. Giving that touchdown up had to be deflating. Watson made some costly mistakes but he also escaped countless sacks and had a big play called back on a penalty. I just don't see how Watson shoulders a majority of the blame for the loss. 

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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    Watson is elusive!!

    Steelers 7 sacks

    Lol

  • It’s Monday morning, is he still here ? 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @7moses7 said:

    It’s Monday morning, is he still here ? 

    On the radio today Stef said that he let him go last night.

    I guess we'll be finding out who Depodesta wants for DC.