~ AND ~ ? only 204 days and now 92 ? 57 ? 32 ? 19 ? YES really ! And still counting... ? ....?
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I'm sure there is a LB in the next couple coming up...
You have got them ! Can't wait to see them..... ?
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Nah, no confusion here. SO flugs (not flags, lol). How have you been ?
? I've been enjoying the journey. Thanks for asking! I hope things are going well for you too. It's good to see you getting back in the mix.
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Time to gird your loins, gentlemen, because we are now Alex Mack days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Mack was another first round OLineman the Browns drafted in the 2000s, out of Cal Berkeley. In the seven seasons Mack manned the Center position for the Browns (2009-2015), he was a three time Pro Bowler. His season-ending injury in a blowout win in Pittsburgh marked the beginning of the end of the promising 2014 season. He'd move on to Atlanta in 2016 in free agency, going to three more Pro Bowls in four years, then finish his career in San Francisco with one more Pro Bowl before retiring prior to training camp, 2022.
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Time to gird your loins, gentlemen, because we are now Alex Mack days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Mack was another first round OLineman the Browns drafted in the 2000s, out of Cal Berkeley. In the seven seasons Mack manned the Center position for the Browns (2009-2015), he was a three time Pro Bowler. His season-ending injury in a blowout win in Pittsburgh marked the beginning of the end of the promising 2014 season. He'd move on to Atlanta in 2016 in free agency, going to three more Pro Bowls in four years, then finish his career in San Francisco with one more Pro Bowl before retiring prior to training camp, 2022.
Time to gird your loins, gentlemen, because we are now Alex Mack days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Mack was another first round OLineman the Browns drafted in the 2000s, out of Cal Berkeley. In the seven seasons Mack manned the Center position for the Browns (2009-2015), he was a three time Pro Bowler. His season-ending injury in a blowout win in Pittsburgh marked the beginning of the end of the promising 2014 season. He'd move on to Atlanta in 2016 in free agency, going to three more Pro Bowls in four years, then finish his career in San Francisco with one more Pro Bowl before retiring prior to training camp, 2022.
Alex Mack, solid pick, good player did his 13 year career the right way. And because I've always been a stats guy, and always believed in a follow the money plus the "other" hidden numbers and stories. And of course the character of the player a big plus in my book.
Paychecks are a favorite of mine Mr Alex Mack did very well there, the BROWNS also did well with Mack at center a few " other" hidden stats. In his 13 year career how many fines or suspensions did he have ..... give up ? ONE in 13 years that's it. A forfeited $5,000 minor offense that's it. Some players have a mile long rap sheet (NO names or details needed).
Oh the BIG NUMBERS he did very well, same for the Cleveland BROWNS.
★ To uncrunch the numbers in 13 fine years Mack earned $83,228,068 in GAMEDAY checks. He did it right and retired a wealthy NFL interior lineman. That gets 4★ of 4 in my books. Enjoy your and your family's retirement together. ? i love happy endings.
▪︎ 13 seasons ▪︎ $59,595,000$15,175,000$900,000$200,000$1,000,000$4,800,000$1,308,068 ▪︎ $82,978,068. 2023$250,000------$250,000$59,845,000$15,175,000$900,000$200,000$1,000,000$4,800,000$1,308,068. ▪︎ $83,228,068 ▪︎
SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH7 seasons
$25,670,000-$500,000$200,000-$4,800,000$1,230,000$32,400,0005 seasons
$32,500,000$11,500,000--$1,000,000-$78,068$45,078,0681 seasons
$1,425,000$3,675,000$400,000----$5,500,000
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I'm almost embarrassed to admit that I just realized today that the Browns Training Camp starts Saturday down in West Virginia, but I didn't forget that we are now Linebacker Andra "Don't Confuse Me With The Wide Receiver The Browns Drafted With The Similar Name" Davis days from the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Davis was a 5th round pick out of Florida in 2002, and was a special team player his rookie season before starting for the next six seasons at MLB. He was a stout (6'1, 255lbs) tackling machine, routinely racking up well over 100 tackles a season. He finished his career with one season in Denver and two in Buffalo.
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Well we couldn't be having any more fun if we all had Russian hookers pee on us, could we boys? Well try this on for size, we are only Joe Schobert days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Schobert was taken with a fourth round pick out of Wisconsin in 2016, coming off winning the Jack Lambert Trophy for the best college linebacker. He started four games at OLB for Ray Horton's 3-4 defense (remember Ray Horton's old man cornrows? Pepperidge Farms remembers) in his rookie season, then started at MLB for the next three seasons with the Browns, going to the Pro Bowl in 2017. After the 2019 season he left Cleveland in free agency for Jacksonville, who traded him after a season to Pittsburgh. After the 2021 season with the Steelers, they released Schobert. He signed and was released by Denver in August of 2022, then played briefly for Tennessee. As far as I can tell, he is not on a NFL roster for the 2023 season yet.
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Well we couldn't be having any more fun if we all had Russian hookers pee on us, could we boys? Well try this on for size, we are only Joe Schobert days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Schobert was taken with a fourth round pick out of Wisconsin in 2016, coming off winning the Jack Lambert Trophy for the best college linebacker. He started four games at OLB for Ray Horton's 3-4 defense (remember Ray Horton's old man cornrows? Pepperidge Farms remembers) in his rookie season, then started at MLB for the next three seasons with the Browns, going to the Pro Bowl in 2017. After the 2019 season he left Cleveland in free agency for Jacksonville, who traded him after a season to Pittsburgh. After the 2021 season with the Steelers, they released Schobert. He signed and was released by Denver in August of 2022, then played briefly for Tennessee. As far as I can tell, he is not on a NFL roster for the 2023 season yet.
Well we couldn't be having any more fun if we all had Russian hookers pee on us, could we boys? Well try this on for size, we are only Joe Schobert days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Schobert was taken with a fourth round pick out of Wisconsin in 2016, coming off winning the Jack Lambert Trophy for the best college linebacker. He started four games at OLB for Ray Horton's 3-4 defense (remember Ray Horton's old man cornrows? Pepperidge Farms remembers) in his rookie season, then started at MLB for the next three seasons with the Browns, going to the Pro Bowl in 2017. After the 2019 season he left Cleveland in free agency for Jacksonville, who traded him after a season to Pittsburgh. After the 2021 season with the Steelers, they released Schobert. He signed and was released by Denver in August of 2022, then played briefly for Tennessee. As far as I can tell, he is not on a NFL roster for the 2023 season yet.
I really liked what he made of himself in Cleveland regardless of the short career thereafter. In appreciation of the post here's a little biscuit for our closet country music fan.
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Just in the nick of time, we are now D'Qwell Jackson days until the start of the 2023 season. Jackson was a 2006 second round pick of the Browns out of Maryland. Jackson was one of the longest tenured Browns of the 1999 and on era, playing in Cleveland for eight seasons, leading the AFC twice in tackles (2008 and 2011). He was a salary cap casualty after the 2013 season, and he would play his final three NFL seasons in Indianapolis. His interception of Tom Brady in a playoff loss to the Patriots started the "Deflategate" controversy.
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As we head towards the weekend, we are now Eddie "The Assassin" Johnson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Johnson was a seventh round pick of the Browns in 1981, out of Louisville. He started his career as a special teams player, not becoming a full-time starter at one of the inside linebacker spots of Marty Shottenheimer's 3-4 defense until 1984. Between 1984-86, he would amass an amazing 437 tackles! He would remain a starter through the 1988 season, but a change to the 4-3 defense with the arrival of Bud Carson relegated Johnson to backup status. He was released during the 1991 training camp by the Browns, and would retire soon after. He was diagnosed with colon cancer in 2000, and would sadly pass away at the age of 43 on January 21, 2003. He was one of my first favorite Browns players, rest in peace, Eddie.
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Just in the nick of time, we are now D'Qwell Jackson days until the start of the 2023 season. Jackson was a 2006 second round pick of the Browns out of Maryland. Jackson was one of the longest tenured Browns of the 1999 and on era, playing in Cleveland for eight seasons, leading the AFC twice in tackles (2008 and 2011). He was a salary cap casualty after the 2013 season, and he would play his final three NFL seasons in Indianapolis. His interception of Tom Brady in a playoff loss to the Patriots started the "Deflategate" controversy.
Just in the nick of time, we are now D'Qwell Jackson days until the start of the 2023 season. Jackson was a 2006 second round pick of the Browns out of Maryland. Jackson was one of the longest tenured Browns of the 1999 and on era, playing in Cleveland for eight seasons, leading the AFC twice in tackles (2008 and 2011). He was a salary cap casualty after the 2013 season, and he would play his final three NFL seasons in Indianapolis. His interception of Tom Brady in a playoff loss to the Patriots started the "Deflategate" controversy.
Well done - Thanks! He was a very reliable player and great leader. At 1 time, it felt like he was little overrated because his large tackle volume was mostly downfield in pursuit angles as opposed to being around the line of scrimmage vrs the point of attack. Not that there's ever anything wrong with consistently hustling and tackling. Having said that, I read somewhere that former Saint LB/FA acquisition Scot Fujita significantly helped D'Qwell out a lot in the film room with identifying specific formations and various stances from offensive linemen of opponents tipping off tendencies in various situations. As a result, much more of Jackson's tackles were taking place at the line of scrimmage so I'm sure he was happy there were far less comparisons to Wali Rainer.
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Absolutely NO doubt on #51 EJ. No other real competition there. Some all favorites and an unusual number selection coming up soon.
GO BROWNS !
Absolutely NO doubt on #51 EJ. No other real competition there. Some all favorites and an unusual number selection coming up soon.
GO BROWNS !
He was definitely a fan fave. Frank Minnifield, who also played at Louisville, said Eddie was quite a mentor when he arrived in Cleveland from the USFL. He said Eddie told him 1 time "that showboat stuff ain't gonna fly here. You are now a professional that is supposed to make plays." Eddie Johnson and Mike Johnson were great LBers for us in the 80s. Almost sounds like a commercial for band aids - "The hits are brought to you by Johnson and Johnson."
Yeah, they were definitely a big hit in Cleveland...
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All the Browns have reported to Training Camp now with us only Vince Costello days left until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Costello, a son of Italian immigrants, grew up in a little town south of Canton named Magnolia. (My grandmother, a daughter of Italian immigrants, grew up in the same area). Vince was a three sport star at Magnolia High, and actually went to Ohio University on a basketball scholarship. He only played roundball for one year for the Bobcats, instead focusing on football and baseball while in Athens. The NFL did not draft Costello, and he signed a minor league contract with the Cincinnati Reds. He played in their farm system for four years, while also serving in the Air Force ROTC during that time. He was invited to the Browns training camp in 1956 because a former assistant coach during his time at Ohio U was now on Paul Browns coaching staff. A hamstring injury torpedoed his shot initially, but after another invite the next year, Costello made the Browns. He immediately started at middle linebacker in his rookie season of 1957, and would hold that job through the 1966 season. He had an interception of Johnny Unitas in the 1964 NFL Championship, helping the Browns shutout the heavily favored Colts. He was traded to the NY Giants for a 6th round draft pick, where he would play his final two seasons before retiring. He then was an assistant coach on a few different teams after, including working with his first head coach, Paul Brown, now in Cincinnati.
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Vince Costello was a good player from the older Cleveland BROWNS 1957-1966 era. A solid pick.
I had a favorite from the Woody Hays and OHIO STATE years and later a Cleveland BROWNS player from 1982-1985 and only 38 games Tom Cousineau. A lot of Buckeyes football in a short time.
....... edit add ... my mother when I was a kid had friends from Magnolia, I never forgot that name.
ALSO Cousineau is a volunteer with the Akron Hoban high school football team.
● AND.... I had to look this one up ....... why the shorter NFL career for a #1 pick....... Cousineau was drafted first overall in the 1979 NFL Draft by the Buffalo Bills, who acquired the pick as a part of a package of five draft picks from the San Francisco 49ers in a 1978 trade for O. J. Simpson.[13] However, he never played a game for the Bills. He instead signed with the Canadian Football League's Montreal Alouettes, who signed him for double the money originally offered by the Bills. Cousineau became a star for the Alouettes, becoming the Grey Cup Most Valuable Player in the 1979 season. He only played in four games in his third season because of an elbow injury while the Alouettes collapsed.[9]
In 1982, Cousineau wanted to return to the NFL, choosing to forego two optional years with the Alouettes. The Houston Oilers attempted to sign him, but the Bills (who still held Cousineau's NFL rights) matched the offer. Cleveland Browns owner Art Modell had long been interested in signing him.[9] Cousineau was then traded from the Bills to the Cleveland Browns for a first-round draft choice (14th overall) in the 1983 NFL Draft, plus a second and a third draft choice in subsequent years.[14] That first-round pick was used on future Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly. Cousineau signed a five-year contract for $2.5 million, the highest contract ever at the time by the Browns.
~ NOW here's a classic BROWNS LB picture from 1983. Chip Banks, Clay Matthews, Dick Ambrose and Tom Cousineau. Only $499 from Getty pictures who has copyrighted everything out there ..... now.
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i did and it was a great stay,i could get used to lake life
Awesome! I know exactly what you mean about the lake life Syd!
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I found this Tom Cousineau story interesting with the .... Bills, CFL, Houston, BROWNS, SF ...... and so what was the HOT in demand #1 pick in the entire 1979 NFL Draft actually worth ? So let's follow the money and see ...... (right up mjp's alley). A #1 pick would be from $20-$30+ Million/ year today. Mayfield got $33M. From OSU Marketing major Tom Cousineau himself .
.......Tom Cousineau's major while an he was an undergraduate at Ohio State was marketing, which is appropriate, for Cousineau has marketed his football skills as well as any professional athlete. Although he has never played a down in the National Football League, Cousineau has a starting position - weakside inside linebacker - waiting for him, along with a salary reported to be $500,000 a year, which will make him one of the highest paid players in the National Football League.
After Buffalo made Cousineau the first player taken in the 1979 N.F.L. draft, he spurned the Bills and played for three seasons with the Montreal Alouettes in the Canadian Football League. The Alouettes had paid him $150,000 a year plus a $200,000 signing bonus. He became a free agent last March and, after seven weeks of weighing many inquiries, Cousineau signed a five-year contract reported to be worth $3.5 million with the Browns.
'It Worked for Me'
I guess it did Tom and Art Modell and the BROWNS too. Five year 3.5M deal or $700,000/ year. ( I always wanted him as a Cleveland BROWNS player .... eventually. )
AND the Bills got Jim Kelly in the now famous 1983 quarterback class trade for Cousineau plus two additional picks. They ended up happy with that deal. SF got OJ, eh ?
What a deal. (Nice topic syd, it all starts with an individual jersey number)
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I found this Tom Cousineau story interesting with the .... Bills, CFL, Houston, BROWNS, SF ...... and so what was the HOT in demand #1 pick in the entire 1979 NFL Draft actually worth ? So let's follow the money and see ...... (right up mjp's alley). A #1 pick would be from $20-$30+ Million/ year today. Mayfield got $33M. From OSU Marketing major Tom Cousineau himself .
.......Tom Cousineau's major while an he was an undergraduate at Ohio State was marketing, which is appropriate, for Cousineau has marketed his football skills as well as any professional athlete. Although he has never played a down in the National Football League, Cousineau has a starting position - weakside inside linebacker - waiting for him, along with a salary reported to be $500,000 a year, which will make him one of the highest paid players in the National Football League.
After Buffalo made Cousineau the first player taken in the 1979 N.F.L. draft, he spurned the Bills and played for three seasons with the Montreal Alouettes in the Canadian Football League. The Alouettes had paid him $150,000 a year plus a $200,000 signing bonus. He became a free agent last March and, after seven weeks of weighing many inquiries, Cousineau signed a five-year contract reported to be worth $3.5 million with the Browns.
'It Worked for Me'
I guess it did Tom and Art Modell and the BROWNS too. Five year 3.5M deal or $700,000/ year. ( I always wanted him as a Cleveland BROWNS player .... eventually. )
AND the Bills got Jim Kelly in the now famous 1983 quarterback class trade for Cousineau plus two additional picks. They ended up happy with that deal. SF got OJ, eh ?
What a deal. (Nice topic syd, it all starts with an individual jersey number)
I found this Tom Cousineau story interesting with the .... Bills, CFL, Houston, BROWNS, SF ...... and so what was the HOT in demand #1 pick in the entire 1979 NFL Draft actually worth ? So let's follow the money and see ...... (right up mjp's alley). A #1 pick would be from $20-$30+ Million/ year today. Mayfield got $33M. From OSU Marketing major Tom Cousineau himself .
.......Tom Cousineau's major while an he was an undergraduate at Ohio State was marketing, which is appropriate, for Cousineau has marketed his football skills as well as any professional athlete. Although he has never played a down in the National Football League, Cousineau has a starting position - weakside inside linebacker - waiting for him, along with a salary reported to be $500,000 a year, which will make him one of the highest paid players in the National Football League.
After Buffalo made Cousineau the first player taken in the 1979 N.F.L. draft, he spurned the Bills and played for three seasons with the Montreal Alouettes in the Canadian Football League. The Alouettes had paid him $150,000 a year plus a $200,000 signing bonus. He became a free agent last March and, after seven weeks of weighing many inquiries, Cousineau signed a five-year contract reported to be worth $3.5 million with the Browns.
'It Worked for Me'
I guess it did Tom and Art Modell and the BROWNS too. Five year 3.5M deal or $700,000/ year. ( I always wanted him as a Cleveland BROWNS player .... eventually. )
AND the Bills got Jim Kelly in the trade for Cousineau plus two additional picks. They ended up happy with that deal. SF got OJ, eh ?
What a deal. (Nice topic syd, it all starts with an individual jersey number)
Interesting story!
My guy tomorrow has an interesting trade story too.... stay tuned!
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