Watson's shoulder
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This might be superfluous but I don't recall the play in which he got hurt. Anybody see a replay of that? Sac? Take off running?
Thanks
WSS
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I think they said it was the 1 QB sneak
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Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder
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Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder
Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder
When in the game did that happen?
I saw something a couple days ago that this happened when the Browns had the game in hand, which lends the question why Stefanski is calling designed run games with your starting QB with the win pretty much secured, a week after losing your Pro Bowl RB....
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
If is wasn't for bad luck.......
Why didn't we keep Brissett?
I believe he was looking for more of an opportunity to play. It seemed like we were an afterthought for him
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Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder
When in the game did that happen?
I saw something a couple days ago that this happened when the Browns had the game in hand, which lends the question why Stefanski is calling designed run games with your starting QB with the win pretty much secured, a week after losing your Pro Bowl RB....
When in the game did that happen?
I saw something a couple days ago that this happened when the Browns had the game in hand, which lends the question why Stefanski is calling designed run games with your starting QB with the win pretty much secured, a week after losing your Pro Bowl RB....
The BIGGER question is why is Stefanski still calling our plays? Our defense felt like they ran a 10 k in that 1st quarter with the complete lack of time of possession the horrible play calling led to. So where did that leave us and the home crowd? It left everyone feeling like Baltimore now owns the Ravens and the Browns.
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DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays
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Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder
Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder
Yup. That's the play. I was like, Why didn't he just get down? Why do the Chubb impersonation? For the umpteenth time, I don't like my QB's running with the ball. They're too stupid to realize that THEY CAN'T GET HURT!. The team is fucked without them!
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Stefanski isn't calling plays. Depodesta is. Why is this concept so hard for Browns fans to grasp? Depodesta isn't he head coach.
Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..
most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject
We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?
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DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays
DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays
I don't really blame the kid for having a bad outing his first game in the NFL against one of the better defenses. It's not like our defense would have performed up to the reputation even with a healthy Watson. But if we are calling plays it require him to take off and run this is what we get. If it's a rotator cuff time to get used to DTR.
WSS
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
I think he is a weak Cahunnt
His play call sheet was given to him by Depodesta. Depodesta is in his headphones the entire time.
Fuck Haslam, fuck Depodesta and Fuck Stefanski
AGREED! They're all intertwined and the reason for this annual dumpster fire this early on in the year. It's like a regularly scheduled alarm clock.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Stefanski isn't calling plays. Depodesta is. Why is this concept so hard for Browns fans to grasp? Depodesta isn't he head coach.
Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..
most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject
We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?
Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..
most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject
We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?
I'm at the point where I don't care WHO we give the credit to for the bad playcalling; because it won't end as long as we have the worst owner in the NFL. I don't care if he opens his wallet and has no idea what he's spending his money on like Randy Lerner did. That did what for us then and now?
The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly. Now you guys know why I wasn't doing cartwheels and backward flips Elijah Moore that played himself out of the Jets starting lineup last year. The names keep changing but the results don't.
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Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..
most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject
We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?
I'm at the point where I don't care WHO we give the credit to for the bad playcalling; because it won't end as long as we have the worst owner in the NFL. I don't care if he opens his wallet and has no idea what he's spending his money on like Randy Lerner did. That did what for us then and now?
The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly. Now you guys know why I wasn't doing cartwheels and backward flips Elijah Moore that played himself out of the Jets starting lineup last year. The names keep changing but the results don't.
The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly.
The names keep changing but the results don't.
It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.
Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.
DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..?
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DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays
I don't really blame the kid for having a bad outing his first game in the NFL against one of the better defenses. It's not like our defense would have performed up to the reputation even with a healthy Watson. But if we are calling plays it require him to take off and run this is what we get. If it's a rotator cuff time to get used to DTR.
WSS
I don't really blame the kid for having a bad outing his first game in the NFL against one of the better defenses. It's not like our defense would have performed up to the reputation even with a healthy Watson. But if we are calling plays it require him to take off and run this is what we get. If it's a rotator cuff time to get used to DTR.
WSS
There are no excuses in the NFL. Stefanski didn't do DTR any favors, but most of his throws weren't even in the same zip code as the receiver.
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I think the Browns would have lost this game regardless of the qb - DTR had a terrible day, sure.
DTR would have won last week's game. The stinking ratbirds are just that good on defense, in the secondary.... and I said this about the game upcoming -
"Jackson scrambling for points seems to be the deciding factor.".... and there he still went and did it.
Yes, Jackson surprised me with a few nice throws he wouldn't have made before in his career. But his athleticism seems to be off the charts.
and Andrews -Jackson's saving grace when the heat is on. Like Kelsey to Mahommes, like Gronk to Brady.....
Browns need a very smart, great hc.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
If is wasn't for bad luck.......
Why didn't we keep Brissett?
Brissett contract was up and he wanted to compete for a starting job, which he had a chance at for the commanders.
Trading Dobbs for a 5th is the questionable decision in hindsight. They must have had a lot of faith in DTR
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The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly.
The names keep changing but the results don't.
It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.
Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.
DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..?
It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.
Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.
DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..?
The offensive system or the just wing-it, fling-it and hope? The defense showed up to play very early on; and the home crowd was enjoying it. However, how long were they getting to rest after they stopped Baltimore? By the time they intercepted DTR the 1st time, our defense looked gas'd like the big fellers started looking/feeling like they had the type of dead legs you'd see on someone that just ran a 10k. Baltimore's D remained well rested. They had a game fitting what they're good at. Consequently, the execution looked easy after they tired out the strength of our team (Defense).
While I like your point about execution, at what point do we lose the players' buy-in to the compatibility of it all? Asking a rookie QB (that has had very little reps throwing to the starting receivers/TEs and situational role receivers) to throw the ball 36 times where chemistry probably hasn't even been establish on the practice field yet seems overwhelming for a very 1st NFL start at QB. Baltimore's D remained well rested. They had a patient game plan fitting what they're good at. Consequently, the execution looked easy after they tired out the strength of our team (Defense). Legs get tired there when the time of possession on offense isn't up to snuff.
While I agree with your comment in bold, did Watson look that much better against Pittsburgh? They scored 2 TDs on our offense. In the game thread, I said it way more than once RUN the ball. That one nice run Ford had that got called back when Cooper held a DB (he didn't need to) - they never went back to it.
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The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly.
The names keep changing but the results don't.
It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.
Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.
DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..?
It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.
Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.
DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..?
I call DTR "Dont throw!, Run!"
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It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.
Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.
DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..?
I call DTR "Dont throw!, Run!"
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