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  • JaxJ Jax

    There is still evidence of baby murders, and enough other atrocities that it doesn't matter.

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    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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    @jax said:

    There is still evidence of baby murders, and enough other atrocities that it doesn't matter.

    Ok, I believe we're in agreement that killing of babies and children is bad. So are you talking about the footage of the dead Israeli babies or the dead Palestinian babies?

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      Let's use proper context Vapor.

      There is a huge difference between collateral damage and a terrorist personally walking up and murdering a baby in the flesh.

      Yes it still leaves dead babies and we don't like that, but still, it's a gigantic difference.

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        @jax said:

        There is still evidence of baby murders, and enough other atrocities that it doesn't matter.

        Ok, I believe we're in agreement that killing of babies and children is bad. So are you talking about the footage of the dead Israeli babies or the dead Palestinian babies?

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        @vaportrail said:

        Ok, I believe we're in agreement that killing of babies and children is bad. So are you talking about the footage of the dead Israeli babies or the dead Palestinian babies?

        I know you don't believe that terrorists beheading babies isn't the same as babies accidentally being killed when terrorists are shooting missiles from a hospital.

        terrorists have been known to murder civilians to use it as a staged propaganda against Israel anyways.

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          @vaportrail said:

          Ok, I believe we're in agreement that killing of babies and children is bad. So are you talking about the footage of the dead Israeli babies or the dead Palestinian babies?

          I know you don't believe that terrorists beheading babies isn't the same as babies accidentally being killed when terrorists are shooting missiles from a hospital.

          terrorists have been known to murder civilians to use it as a staged propaganda against Israel anyways.

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          @calfoxwc said:

          I know you don't believe that terrorists beheading babies isn't the same as babies accidentally being killed when terrorists are shooting missiles from a hospital.

          terrorists have been known to murder civilians to use it as a staged propaganda against Israel anyways.

          I'm glad we can admit that we have backtracked from "Hamas has beheaded 40 babies" to "children are being killed with bombs." The truth matters. Israel would prefer you think the former, because there is evidence of both Hamas and the IDF doing the latter.

          Back to escalation, Religion of Peace has struck in China and France with stabbing attacks in response to Hamas' call for a day of global jihad. I am actually concerned that these fuckers may target Beachwood, where I have to work today.

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            None of what you said about Biden matters. We've seen this poor old man disintegrate on live television and the left would rather have an Alzheimer's patient as president than a competent Republican

            But the republicans can't back a competent person?‍♂️ It really is a shame if it has to comes down to Biden vs Trump again. Why can't we have two different candidates?

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            @neo said:

            But the republicans can't back a competent person?‍♂️ It really is a shame if it has to comes down to Biden vs Trump again. Why can't we have two different candidates?

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            I'm asking for evidence.


            There were WMDs in Iraq.
            You can't spread COVID if you're vaccinated.
            Russian wives are wishing their soldiers happy raping in Ukraine.
            Hamas beheaded 40 babies. 

            Yeah, let's not ask for verification. Let's just take fog of war at face value. 

            1 well kind of off topic but one reason we can't is because this side is going to despise the other sides guy no matter who it is. Whether they nominate Lizzie Borden or Joan of arc. Unfortunately everything you hear about them will be filtered by the media and we know whose side they are on for the most part.

            2 yes there really does need to be evidence. Without that it's crying wolf and he won't be believed next time when it is true.

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              @calfoxwc said:

              I know you don't believe that terrorists beheading babies isn't the same as babies accidentally being killed when terrorists are shooting missiles from a hospital.

              terrorists have been known to murder civilians to use it as a staged propaganda against Israel anyways.

              I'm glad we can admit that we have backtracked from "Hamas has beheaded 40 babies" to "children are being killed with bombs." The truth matters. Israel would prefer you think the former, because there is evidence of both Hamas and the IDF doing the latter.

              Back to escalation, Religion of Peace has struck in China and France with stabbing attacks in response to Hamas' call for a day of global jihad. I am actually concerned that these fuckers may target Beachwood, where I have to work today.

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              @vaportrail said:

              I'm glad we can admit that we have backtracked from "Hamas has beheaded 40 babies" to "children are being killed with bombs." The truth matters. Israel would prefer you think the former, because there is evidence of both Hamas and the IDF doing the latter.

              Back to escalation, Religion of Peace has struck in China and France with stabbing attacks in response to Hamas' call for a day of global jihad. I am actually concerned that these fuckers may target Beachwood, where I have to work today.

              https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1712194971116474411?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1712194971116474411%7Ctwgr%5E5311f64e023b2ddaa61eeffee26aab021d9f79f8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/office-prime-minister-netanyahu-releases-horrifying-disturbing-photos/

              Actually, what we have are reports from soldiers of what they witnessed. They mentioned the babies being decapitated and such. Just because Biden lied, as he lies about everything, doesn't mean the story is false. Hamas refutes the claim however, I guess that's proof enough for some as they'd rather believe terrorists. These baby deaths and abductions are from raids, not the bombing. It's almost a desperate attempt to discredit the decapitations or baby deaths in general to soften the view on terrorists.

              https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1711769062903038137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1711769062903038137%7Ctwgr%5E658fa0299b50b18430f90042a4f152fefe634291%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/hamas-insists-they-were-not-shooting-killing-kids/

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                      More escalation

                      There were reports from dubious sources a few days ago that Saudis have put a hold on normalizing relations with Israel (goal of the Abraham Accords). Now, this is being reported by Israeli sources, Saudi sources, and Reuters. (Adds pressure to Israel. Reduces pressure on Iran and its proxies.)

                      Qatar has joined the UAE in threatening to stop all oil/LNG exports until IDF stops attacking Gaza. Qatar is the world's leading exporter of LNG. (Directly pressures Europe, since they're already getting squeezed by Uncle Sam's Russian sanctions and the sabotage of NordStream. Enthusiasm in Europe for the Ukrainian cause is already waning. Japan has already been buying Russian oil above the EU/US price caps, and I would not be shocked to see European unity on this fall apart.) Scratch that. Qatari officials now denying this. I've been had by fake news. 

                      Israel has demanded that everyone in the north of Gaza evacuate. They gave 24 hours warning and that time runs out just about as I am posting this. (Anti-Zionist protests in European cities, not to mention Israel's neighbors, are growing. If Israel goes boots on the ground, as rumored, I suspect that the scope of rioting is going to surpass the George Floyd riots.)

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                        More escalation

                        There were reports from dubious sources a few days ago that Saudis have put a hold on normalizing relations with Israel (goal of the Abraham Accords). Now, this is being reported by Israeli sources, Saudi sources, and Reuters. (Adds pressure to Israel. Reduces pressure on Iran and its proxies.)

                        Qatar has joined the UAE in threatening to stop all oil/LNG exports until IDF stops attacking Gaza. Qatar is the world's leading exporter of LNG. (Directly pressures Europe, since they're already getting squeezed by Uncle Sam's Russian sanctions and the sabotage of NordStream. Enthusiasm in Europe for the Ukrainian cause is already waning. Japan has already been buying Russian oil above the EU/US price caps, and I would not be shocked to see European unity on this fall apart.) Scratch that. Qatari officials now denying this. I've been had by fake news. 

                        Israel has demanded that everyone in the north of Gaza evacuate. They gave 24 hours warning and that time runs out just about as I am posting this. (Anti-Zionist protests in European cities, not to mention Israel's neighbors, are growing. If Israel goes boots on the ground, as rumored, I suspect that the scope of rioting is going to surpass the George Floyd riots.)

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                        @vaportrail said:

                        More escalation

                        There were reports from dubious sources a few days ago that Saudis have put a hold on normalizing relations with Israel (goal of the Abraham Accords). Now, this is being reported by Israeli sources, Saudi sources, and Reuters. (Adds pressure to Israel. Reduces pressure on Iran and its proxies.)

                        Qatar has joined the UAE in threatening to stop all oil/LNG exports until IDF stops attacking Gaza. Qatar is the world's leading exporter of LNG. (Directly pressures Europe, since they're already getting squeezed by Uncle Sam's Russian sanctions and the sabotage of NordStream. Enthusiasm in Europe for the Ukrainian cause is already waning. Japan has already been buying Russian oil above the EU/US price caps, and I would not be shocked to see European unity on this fall apart.)

                        Israel has demanded that everyone in the north of Gaza evacuate. They gave 24 hours warning and that time runs out just about as I am posting this. (Anti-Zionist protests in European cities, not to mention Israel's neighbors, are growing. If Israel goes boots on the ground, as rumored, I suspect that the scope of rioting is going to surpass the George Floyd riots.)

                        All those nations are terrified of iran. I read where hezbollah met with iran leaders months ago to talk about the upcoming assault on Israel.

                        This corrupt biden regime deliberately and stupidly stopped all Trump policies and went with their own opposites.

                        Right things have turned into wrong dangerous things, things that led direction to this war.

                        it's going to get a lot worse.

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                          Escalation 

                          -Ambassador of Religion of Peace guns down 3 in Brussels. Manhunt underway.

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                            Europe is filled with 'undocumented immigrants' (LOL) from Muslim countries.  

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                              Europe is filled with 'undocumented immigrants' (LOL) from Muslim countries.  

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                              Europe is filled with 'undocumented immigrants' (LOL) from Muslim countries.  

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                                De-escalation 

                                -Israel's planned invasion of the Gaza strip on Friday has been postponed. There has been bad weather, pressure from Biden (I will give him credit here) for Israel to make efforts to minimize civilian casualties, and the threat of Hezbollah opening a second front on the Lebanese border when IDF commits its forces to Gaza. Unclear how much each of these factors are weighing in against IDF plans to root out Hamas. 

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                                  Hamas just had a missile misfire that hit there hospital and are blaming the IDF.  They want Hezbolla to enter the war.  IDF should go ahead with the invasion.

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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    None of what you said about Biden matters. We've seen this poor old man disintegrate on live television and the left would rather have an Alzheimer's patient as president than a competent Republican

                                    But the republicans can't back a competent person?‍♂️ It really is a shame if it has to comes down to Biden vs Trump again. Why can't we have two different candidates?

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                                    @neo said:

                                    But the republicans can't back a competent person?‍♂️ It really is a shame if it has to comes down to Biden vs Trump again. Why can't we have two different candidates?

                                    well, it's because there are NONE in the dem party, and the ones who should run in the rep party don't run , like Sen. John Thune of S. Dakota.

                                       The great rep candidate do not want to put their family through fake accusations of ...rape or sex assault, don't want their kids attacked, their spouse ridiculed.

                                      I think it was harry reid that smiled about being caught LYING about Romney - he said he paid zero taxes... it was a deliberate manipulative lie. "it worked, didn;t it?"

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                                      Hamas just had a missile misfire that hit there hospital and are blaming the IDF.  They want Hezbolla to enter the war.  IDF should go ahead with the invasion.

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                                      @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                      Hamas just had a missile misfire that hit there hospital and are blaming the IDF.  They want Hezbolla to enter the war.  IDF should go ahead with the invasion.

                                      Escalation

                                      Hospital was blown up. Palestine claiming 500 dead. Both sides are claiming the other did it. 

                                      In response,
                                      -the US embassy in Lebanon now has a massive angry crowd outside of it. Unfortunately for the Americans inside, the size of the crowds looks comparable to the 1979 crisis in Iran
                                      -The Israeli embassy in Jordan has a similar crowd outside of it. 
                                      -In Turkey, a very large and angry crowd has gathered outside of both the Israeli embassy and a US military base there. 

                                      -Turkey's leader Erdogan blames Israel for the attack
                                      -Israel reportedly calls for all Israelis in Turkey to leave immediately (dubious sources on this one)
                                      -Jordanian King Abdullah has cancelled planned visit by Biden
                                      -Egypt is blaming Israel for the hospital bombing

                                      Fog of war is really bad right now. Very difficult to verify sources. Take everything that is reported by anyone with a grain of salt. 
                                      Diplomacy appears to be running into a brick wall. The limits of US influence are starting to become obvious. 
                                      This hospital bombing might be the spark to a regional/global conflict.

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                                        @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                        Hamas just had a missile misfire that hit there hospital and are blaming the IDF.  They want Hezbolla to enter the war.  IDF should go ahead with the invasion.

                                        Escalation

                                        Hospital was blown up. Palestine claiming 500 dead. Both sides are claiming the other did it. 

                                        In response,
                                        -the US embassy in Lebanon now has a massive angry crowd outside of it. Unfortunately for the Americans inside, the size of the crowds looks comparable to the 1979 crisis in Iran
                                        -The Israeli embassy in Jordan has a similar crowd outside of it. 
                                        -In Turkey, a very large and angry crowd has gathered outside of both the Israeli embassy and a US military base there. 

                                        -Turkey's leader Erdogan blames Israel for the attack
                                        -Israel reportedly calls for all Israelis in Turkey to leave immediately (dubious sources on this one)
                                        -Jordanian King Abdullah has cancelled planned visit by Biden
                                        -Egypt is blaming Israel for the hospital bombing

                                        Fog of war is really bad right now. Very difficult to verify sources. Take everything that is reported by anyone with a grain of salt. 
                                        Diplomacy appears to be running into a brick wall. The limits of US influence are starting to become obvious. 
                                        This hospital bombing might be the spark to a regional/global conflict.

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                                        All credit to Phil Collins and Genesis (saw em play it live when they were here two years ago), but Disturbed's cover is great. 

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                                        DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        Escalation

                                        Hospital was blown up. Palestine claiming 500 dead. Both sides are claiming the other did it. 

                                        In response,
                                        -the US embassy in Lebanon now has a massive angry crowd outside of it. Unfortunately for the Americans inside, the size of the crowds looks comparable to the 1979 crisis in Iran
                                        -The Israeli embassy in Jordan has a similar crowd outside of it. 
                                        -In Turkey, a very large and angry crowd has gathered outside of both the Israeli embassy and a US military base there. 

                                        -Turkey's leader Erdogan blames Israel for the attack
                                        -Israel reportedly calls for all Israelis in Turkey to leave immediately (dubious sources on this one)
                                        -Jordanian King Abdullah has cancelled planned visit by Biden
                                        -Egypt is blaming Israel for the hospital bombing

                                        Fog of war is really bad right now. Very difficult to verify sources. Take everything that is reported by anyone with a grain of salt. 
                                        Diplomacy appears to be running into a brick wall. The limits of US influence are starting to become obvious. 
                                        This hospital bombing might be the spark to a regional/global conflict.

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                                        All credit to Phil Collins and Genesis (saw em play it live when they were here two years ago), but Disturbed's cover is great. 

                                        Of course they will blame Israel.  Do you ACTUALLY think that Israel would bomb a hospital now of all times?  But all Muslim countries will of course believe it, which will hasten the apocalypse.  

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                                          @vaportrail said:

                                          Escalation

                                          Hospital was blown up. Palestine claiming 500 dead. Both sides are claiming the other did it. 

                                          In response,
                                          -the US embassy in Lebanon now has a massive angry crowd outside of it. Unfortunately for the Americans inside, the size of the crowds looks comparable to the 1979 crisis in Iran
                                          -The Israeli embassy in Jordan has a similar crowd outside of it. 
                                          -In Turkey, a very large and angry crowd has gathered outside of both the Israeli embassy and a US military base there. 

                                          -Turkey's leader Erdogan blames Israel for the attack
                                          -Israel reportedly calls for all Israelis in Turkey to leave immediately (dubious sources on this one)
                                          -Jordanian King Abdullah has cancelled planned visit by Biden
                                          -Egypt is blaming Israel for the hospital bombing

                                          Fog of war is really bad right now. Very difficult to verify sources. Take everything that is reported by anyone with a grain of salt. 
                                          Diplomacy appears to be running into a brick wall. The limits of US influence are starting to become obvious. 
                                          This hospital bombing might be the spark to a regional/global conflict.

                                          Thread theme:

                                          All credit to Phil Collins and Genesis (saw em play it live when they were here two years ago), but Disturbed's cover is great. 

                                          Of course they will blame Israel.  Do you ACTUALLY think that Israel would bomb a hospital now of all times?  But all Muslim countries will of course believe it, which will hasten the apocalypse.  

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                          Of course they will blame Israel.  Do you ACTUALLY think that Israel would bomb a hospital now of all times?  But all Muslim countries will of course believe it, which will hasten the apocalypse.  

                                          Seeing as this guy who is part of Netanyahu's digital team, posted the tweet below shortly after the hospital was bombed, I don't think you can rule out IDF responsibility for it. He deleted it after he realized that you can't really spin bombing a hospital into a positive. Likewise, you can't rule out that the IDF may have destroyed a weapons depot that Hamas placed under a hospital. Nor can you rule out that it was a stray Hamas rocket. Whoever is responsible deserves to hang, but ultimately, it doesn't matter because it has set into motion the gears of war. 

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