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  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by

    Bye bye Bills 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    In a battle of my Super Bowl prediction, the Eagles win.

    The Bills are in big trouble. 6-6. 

  • M MDDawg wrote on last edited by

    Bad loss but things really went south after DTR was knocked out of the game. After a rough start he really picked things up, defense was a let down allowing one of the worst run teams to run all over us. Looks like Flacco may start next week but the main problem is our rapidly growing injury list. Heard Myles is in a sling and Coop has a rib injury thankfully not fractured on X-ray.

  • BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by BernieSuperBowl2

    I just got back from the game. I haven't seen the Browns in person since I moved to Colorado four years ago, great to see them in person! Denver has lots of transplants and fairweather fans, there were Browns jerseys everywhere.

    Sad outcome though, DTR looked great one or two drives but still misses too many throws, drops all over the place, Kev with some moron play calling.

    I know DTR is doing his best, but Flacco is most likely going to get a start once he knows the playbook?

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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    I don't disagree, but here is what confuses me. If Flacco and several other accomplished vets are willing to step in and play now. 

    With all dure respect to the two alphabet kids, with some proven vets sitting out with no job, why do you not tie one of them up at the beginning of the season?

    Am I to understand that management really felt solid with these two kids as backups?

    Surely the inference here is that these vets wouldn't accept a back up role in week 1 preseason, but in week 12 they prefer a tempoary position as starter?

    What am I missing here?

    I am fine with management choosing 2 young kids and not a vet. However, abandoning these 2 choices so quickly to sign Flacco would seem to indicate that management fucked up.

    This is the kind of shit that seems to be S O P with the Browns.

    It is frustrating to see our team so close, but as always, not rising to the top because of shit that could've and should've been nailed down.

    Because the rooks are cheap 

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    I don't disagree, but here is what confuses me. If Flacco and several other accomplished vets are willing to step in and play now. 

    With all dure respect to the two alphabet kids, with some proven vets sitting out with no job, why do you not tie one of them up at the beginning of the season?

    Am I to understand that management really felt solid with these two kids as backups?

    Surely the inference here is that these vets wouldn't accept a back up role in week 1 preseason, but in week 12 they prefer a tempoary position as starter?

    What am I missing here?

    I am fine with management choosing 2 young kids and not a vet. However, abandoning these 2 choices so quickly to sign Flacco would seem to indicate that management fucked up.

    This is the kind of shit that seems to be S O P with the Browns.

    It is frustrating to see our team so close, but as always, not rising to the top because of shit that could've and should've been nailed down.

    The FO:

    1) didn’t expect Watson to get a season ending injury

    2) though DTR was a real first round QB after his preseason performance 

    They were wrong on both, and only scooped up Flacco after there were no better options.

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward

    I’d be interested in seeing the tape analysis, but in real time while drinking beers it seemed like DTR was still lost. Yea his receivers had drops, but the broncos did the Steelers strategy of heavy pressure and stacking the flats and spying the middle.

    you're telling me cooper and Moore and the others can’t get open more than 10 yards downfield?

    Stefanski should have ran more, but it is hard to blame him when they are stacking the box. His criticism will be the 5.3 YPC the browns had despite that, valid? Maybe. 
     

    No need to be down, Flacco has the chance to bring us one of the greatest memes of all time, beating the ravens in the playoffs while wearing a browns uniform. Hopefully it happens at browns stadium, but for the memes it’s definitely better in Baltimore.

    And I’m sure teams will at least respect the threat Flacco brings as a passer, the old man is not afraid to throw it deep. He may not complete it, but he usually doesn’t put it in a place where it results in a turnover either.

  • Bad loss but things really went south after DTR was knocked out of the game. After a rough start he really picked things up, defense was a let down allowing one of the worst run teams to run all over us. Looks like Flacco may start next week but the main problem is our rapidly growing injury list. Heard Myles is in a sling and Coop has a rib injury thankfully not fractured on X-ray.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    @mddawg said:

    Coop has a rib injury thankfully not fractured on X-ray.

    That's good news.  A bad ending for a bad day for Coop.  How many passes did he drop? (one cost us 2 points)   How many did Njoku drop?  How many did Moore drop?  Ford dropped at least one.  

    I was wondering when Harrison Bryant was going to get around to fumbling a snap.

    I was wondering when we were going to fumble one of those multi handoff / toss plays.

    #91 Wright....he obviously can't follow a horizontal line across the field so as to line up on the DEFENSIVE side of it.  Myles' arm was useless in the 2nd half...which pretty much nullified him. 

    And the defense missed Ward badly.  Newsome was nowhere near his receiver for most of the game. (his pass interference penalty was a bad call however...that play should've led to a punt instead of a TD)

    We didn't do a great job against the run today....again.  And we didn't put enough effort into running the ball against the worst run D in the league.  I understand that we were behind on the scoreboard...and that they were keying on the run...but the run was our advantage...not our QB's passing prowess.  

    It's awfully hard to win with the kind of QB play we've been getting.  If that doesn't change, this could be the beginning of the end.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by

    Garrett said after Sunday's 29-12 loss to Denver that he felt something pop in his left shoulder during the game, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.

    https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/browns-myles-garrett-set-for-scans-on-injured-shoulder/

  • BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by

    If we lose Garrett for the year, this season is kablooey. Hopefully it's nothing major

  • If we lose Garrett for the year, this season is kablooey. Hopefully it's nothing major

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    kablooey

    LOL havent heard that  for a long time

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    on  to next  week

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    later  fuck it

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    When you want to turn a close loss into a rout... Put in Walker.  The ghost of Ernest Byner lives in Denver... How many lost fumbles?

    Browns needed to play error free ball to win, nowhere close.  Too bad because JOK had a monster game.    

  • @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    When you want to turn a close loss into a rout... Put in Walker.  The ghost of Ernest Byner lives in Denver... How many lost fumbles?

    Browns needed to play error free ball to win, nowhere close.  Too bad because JOK had a monster game.    

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by

    @hoorta said:

    When you want to turn a close loss into a rout... Put in Walker.  The ghost of Ernest Byner lives in Denver... How many lost fumbles?

    Browns needed to play error free ball to win, nowhere close.  Too bad because JOK had a monster game.    

    I have no idea how a walker led team got us wins this year, my god he is so ass.

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by

    And DTR was less than 50%… again. Don’t recall anything completed past 15 air yards. Some pathetic Njoku drops again, but this game looked lost long before Walker came in to seal the deal.

    The corpse of Joe Flacco is our only hope, DTR is a better option as a QB2 to potentially not lose us games in a pinch.

  • A AP1 wrote on last edited by AP1

    The offensive model to win in the NFL is no longer a tier 1 QB1, it now also takes tier 1 QB2, 3 WR of WR2 quality and 3 RBs that could rush for 1,200 yards if they were the sole RB that got every carry.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Ah yes, preseason. Even an imbecile knows this means nothing

    But our imbeciles didn't know this means ?nothing apparently.

  • And DTR was less than 50%… again. Don’t recall anything completed past 15 air yards. Some pathetic Njoku drops again, but this game looked lost long before Walker came in to seal the deal.

    The corpse of Joe Flacco is our only hope, DTR is a better option as a QB2 to potentially not lose us games in a pinch.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @bbedward said:

    And DTR was less than 50%… again. Don’t recall anything completed past 15 air yards. Some pathetic Njoku drops again, but this game looked lost long before Walker came in to seal the deal.

    The corpse of Joe Flacco is our only hope, DTR is a better option as a QB2 to potentially not lose us games in a pinch.

    The score was 17-12 when DTR got knocked out, not sure how "the game looked lost long before that"...

    But Flacco coming in to start almost seems like a given, unless they want to roll with Walker vs the Rams and give Flacco one more week to get up to speed?

  • @bbedward said:

    And DTR was less than 50%… again. Don’t recall anything completed past 15 air yards. Some pathetic Njoku drops again, but this game looked lost long before Walker came in to seal the deal.

    The corpse of Joe Flacco is our only hope, DTR is a better option as a QB2 to potentially not lose us games in a pinch.

    The score was 17-12 when DTR got knocked out, not sure how "the game looked lost long before that"...

    But Flacco coming in to start almost seems like a given, unless they want to roll with Walker vs the Rams and give Flacco one more week to get up to speed?

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    But Flacco coming in to start almost seems like a given, unless they want to roll with Walker vs the Rams and give Flacco one more week to get up to speed?

    We have to come back from the west coast 8-4.