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  • @canton-dawg said:

    Or it could be that you don’t care about NIL payments?

    Of it could be you’re only concerned about websites reporting that OSU spent 20 million on its players while refusing to believe that Michigan spent 16 million?

    Or maybe you’re refusing to believe that there are other universities spending more than OSU?

    Maybe I’m wasting my time?

    Woody wants to pull a rabbit out of his ass; but only porcupines are volunteering.  Anyway, here's a former Big 10 Coach only aiming for Jim Harbaugh per this article as recent as yesterday.

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    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Woody wants to pull a rabbit out of his ass; but only porcupines are volunteering.  Anyway, here's a former Big 10 Coach only aiming for Jim Harbaugh per this article as recent as yesterday.

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    It’s literally the train he either denies or he doesn’t see coming.

    The funny thing is, the NCAA wasn’t tipped off by anyone at OSU…it came from Ann Arbor! ?


    https://sports.yahoo.com/michigan-sign-stealing-scandal-tipped-183456910.html

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by

    Not really FB, but still OSU FB   .   .   .  

    Not really a Band fan, but still pretty impressive.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    Funny Ohio State recruiting story...

    David Sanders was a top recruit in the 2025 recruiting class, a five star OTackle from North Carolina. All the southern universities were hot after him, then Ohio State got involved. After some time, it was down to Tennessee, Ohio State, Georgia and Clemson. As the early signing date approached in December, it was down to Tennessee and Ohio State.

    Sanders chose to sign with the Volunteers. Then, a few weeks later, out of nowhere it was reported that Sanders and his family were all in Columbus visiting Ohio State... "Is he going to flip?" Everyone who covered Ohio State was caught off guard, there had been no leaks. 

    But sometime during the weekend, Ohio State started getting hip to the fact that Sanders and his family was just using them to get more NIL money out of Tennessee, so they went to him and informed him that they were lowering their NIL offer to him. ?

    Oh, college football in 2025. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

  • I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    What caliber of gun is being held at to your head forcing you to read it?

  • @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    What caliber of gun is being held at to your head forcing you to read it?

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    What caliber of gun is being held at to your head forcing you to read it?

    None at all. I enjoy the Michigan mega thread 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    We can start a thread about the punishment that will levied against MU by the NCAA?

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45732157/ex-michigan-staffer-conor-stalions-says-knew-most-signals-7-games

    2022.

    The Buckeyes didn't lose in 2021 because of cheating.  They got handled up front.

    They lost in 2023 because of a couple early turnovers and a piss-poor season long (non) rotation along the defensive front.  A giant coaching blunder.

    They didn't lose this past November because of cheating.  Day simply said he was going to run headfirst into a brick wall because he was stronger.   

    2022 is the one I really have an enormous fucking problem with. They didn't get handled along the trenches, the defense played well the entire 1st half and, apart from a couple plays, great in their run fits.   The coaches had some questionable calls early as well.      But even then, going back to chart plays it was pretty painfully obvious by the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, and gearing up into their 3rd drive, that fuckery was about.  

  • https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45732157/ex-michigan-staffer-conor-stalions-says-knew-most-signals-7-games

    2022.

    The Buckeyes didn't lose in 2021 because of cheating.  They got handled up front.

    They lost in 2023 because of a couple early turnovers and a piss-poor season long (non) rotation along the defensive front.  A giant coaching blunder.

    They didn't lose this past November because of cheating.  Day simply said he was going to run headfirst into a brick wall because he was stronger.   

    2022 is the one I really have an enormous fucking problem with. They didn't get handled along the trenches, the defense played well the entire 1st half and, apart from a couple plays, great in their run fits.   The coaches had some questionable calls early as well.      But even then, going back to chart plays it was pretty painfully obvious by the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, and gearing up into their 3rd drive, that fuckery was about.  

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45732157/ex-michigan-staffer-conor-stalions-says-knew-most-signals-7-games

    2022.

    The Buckeyes didn't lose in 2021 because of cheating.  They got handled up front.

    They lost in 2023 because of a couple early turnovers and a piss-poor season long (non) rotation along the defensive front.  A giant coaching blunder.

    They didn't lose this past November because of cheating.  Day simply said he was going to run headfirst into a brick wall because he was stronger.   

    2022 is the one I really have an enormous fucking problem with. They didn't get handled along the trenches, the defense played well the entire 1st half and, apart from a couple plays, great in their run fits.   The coaches had some questionable calls early as well.      But even then, going back to chart plays it was pretty painfully obvious by the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, and gearing up into their 3rd drive, that fuckery was about.  

    Release the manifesto 

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

  • @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

    I mean, we'll agree to disagree I guess. I think Stallions is just hanging onto his 15 minutes of fame with these comments (sorta doing a Zach Smith). I also think Stallions had the right combination of neurotic, autism, obsession, etc to be perfect of sign stealing. He just stretched the boundaries. 

    Also, when all of this came out, we had reports of other schools, including OSU, trading with other program sign stealers to get Michigan's signs. Two of OSUs sign stealers out their Venmos on private at that time too. 

    Shit, OSU fans were ridiculous enough to think we hacked their catapult practice video and that's how we beat them or something. 

    Michigan clearly has an enemy within the NCAA, or at least Harbaugh does. The NCAA made comments on this investigation that were unprecedented / against their own rules.

    Not feeling like rehashing it all, but folks that want to make a big deal about it will continue to. Especially OSU and MSU fans. It is what it is. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

    I mean, we'll agree to disagree I guess. I think Stallions is just hanging onto his 15 minutes of fame with these comments (sorta doing a Zach Smith). I also think Stallions had the right combination of neurotic, autism, obsession, etc to be perfect of sign stealing. He just stretched the boundaries. 

    Also, when all of this came out, we had reports of other schools, including OSU, trading with other program sign stealers to get Michigan's signs. Two of OSUs sign stealers out their Venmos on private at that time too. 

    Shit, OSU fans were ridiculous enough to think we hacked their catapult practice video and that's how we beat them or something. 

    Michigan clearly has an enemy within the NCAA, or at least Harbaugh does. The NCAA made comments on this investigation that were unprecedented / against their own rules.

    Not feeling like rehashing it all, but folks that want to make a big deal about it will continue to. Especially OSU and MSU fans. It is what it is. 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    I mean, we'll agree to disagree I guess. I

    There just must be a "deep state" within the NCAA, huh?   Meanhile we all seemingly belong to our Cult of Emotional Appeal.

     When I can piece together plays where defenders abandon assignments and play well beyond logical structure, then any professional will see it as well when they pop on tape.  Not to mention Vegas' interest in covering spreads at a historic pace. 

      UM will get a piece of the hammer, deservedly so.  Stallions is far removed from the game of football where he doesnt belong, and we can all get back to normal week 1.  

     Looking forward to another season. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    I mean, we'll agree to disagree I guess. I

    There just must be a "deep state" within the NCAA, huh?   Meanhile we all seemingly belong to our Cult of Emotional Appeal.

     When I can piece together plays where defenders abandon assignments and play well beyond logical structure, then any professional will see it as well when they pop on tape.  Not to mention Vegas' interest in covering spreads at a historic pace. 

      UM will get a piece of the hammer, deservedly so.  Stallions is far removed from the game of football where he doesnt belong, and we can all get back to normal week 1.  

     Looking forward to another season. 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    There just must be a "deep state" within the NCAA, huh?   Meanhile we all seemingly belong to our Cult of Emotional Appeal.

     When I can piece together plays where defenders abandon assignments and play well beyond logical structure, then any professional will see it as well when they pop on tape.  Not to mention Vegas' interest in covering spreads at a historic pace. 

      UM will get a piece of the hammer, deservedly so.  Stallions is far removed from the game of football where he doesnt belong, and we can all get back to normal week 1.  

     Looking forward to another season. 

    We're all just Youngstown Boys at heart, huh?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    There just must be a "deep state" within the NCAA, huh?   Meanhile we all seemingly belong to our Cult of Emotional Appeal.

     When I can piece together plays where defenders abandon assignments and play well beyond logical structure, then any professional will see it as well when they pop on tape.  Not to mention Vegas' interest in covering spreads at a historic pace. 

      UM will get a piece of the hammer, deservedly so.  Stallions is far removed from the game of football where he doesnt belong, and we can all get back to normal week 1.  

     Looking forward to another season. 

    We're all just Youngstown Boys at heart, huh?

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    We're all just Youngstown Boys at heart, huh?

    If chugging vodka in my car with a loaded AK-47 next to me is wrong, then I don't want to be right. 

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    CMU has received an NOA and has been under investigation re: Conner Stallions.   

    Interesting. 

  • CMU has received an NOA and has been under investigation re: Conner Stallions.   

    Interesting. 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    CMU has received an NOA and has been under investigation re: Conner Stallions.   

    Interesting. 

    This is the most interesting part of the story to me at this point. I mean, he had on a disguise and everything. Who from CMU got him out there? 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    CMU has received an NOA and has been under investigation re: Conner Stallions.   

    Interesting. 

    This is the most interesting part of the story to me at this point. I mean, he had on a disguise and everything. Who from CMU got him out there? 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    This is the most interesting part of the story to me at this point. I mean, he had on a disguise and everything. Who from CMU got him out there? 

    Who and why?    Because he sure as hell isn't gathering info on CMU. 

     Which also begs another question- if he was the perfect combination of autistic, neurotic, obsessed, etc etc... why such a need for advanced scouting of signals both in person and via 3rd party? 

  • @mld-woody said:

    This is the most interesting part of the story to me at this point. I mean, he had on a disguise and everything. Who from CMU got him out there? 

    Who and why?    Because he sure as hell isn't gathering info on CMU. 

     Which also begs another question- if he was the perfect combination of autistic, neurotic, obsessed, etc etc... why such a need for advanced scouting of signals both in person and via 3rd party? 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    Who and why?    Because he sure as hell isn't gathering info on CMU. 

     Which also begs another question- if he was the perfect combination of autistic, neurotic, obsessed, etc etc... why such a need for advanced scouting of signals both in person and via 3rd party? 

    But if he was gathering info on MSU for Michigan, why would he do that by putting on a disguise and sneaking onto the CMU sidelines instead of just watching from the stands. The risk increases exponentially and if anything you have a worse vantage point. Someone on CMU had to want him there to help them decode MSU signals in real time. 

    They should have just colluded with other teams like OSU did to get info on Michigan's signs. 

    My guess is he was always looking to optimize his work, which I totally get. Sure, I could look through all 22, TV recordings, etc, and hash it all together to get the same info, or I could send my boy out with an iPhone and get the same info in one feed. Though there were reports of his deep network of highly trained spies just leaving early from games anyway.

    "Need" is a strong word. This man would squeeze water from a stone if he thought it helped Michigan football. I still want the manifesto. I'd pay him for it.