Ponder this...
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Zombo said:
Different in that the schedule is harder, the roster is not as good, the coaching staff is not capable enough? .... why can't Quinn do what Anderson did in 07?Zombo
Because Mangini is a more balanced, run oriented, methodical, "it's a process" type coach. He is not asking his QB to toss it up as much. Different offense, different TE, different players.
He is not asking his QB to toss it up as much.
he's an "it's a process" coach? And that means......?
The coach is methodical? As opposed to......?
The offense is run oriented and at the same time is balanced?
Nice analysis dipshit.
BTW Quinn threw it 35 times on Sunday. There were 20 runs.
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He is not asking his QB to toss it up as much.
he's an "it's a process" coach? And that means......?
The coach is methodical? As opposed to......?
The offense is run oriented and at the same time is balanced?
Nice analysis dipshit.
BTW Quinn threw it 35 times on Sunday. There were 20 runs.
he's an "it's a process" coach?
The offense is run oriented and at the same time is balanced?
Nice analysis dipshit.
BTW Quinn threw it 35 times on Sunday.
21 of those were in the 4th Q....dipshit.
He had only 11 passes in the first half, and 14 by the end of the 3rd...that is balanced...but leaning towards the run....dipshit.
Oh well...there I go feeding the animals again.
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Zombo said:
Different in that the schedule is harder, the roster is not as good, the coaching staff is not capable enough? .... why can't Quinn do what Anderson did in 07?Zombo
Different schedule (on paper it is harder than the 2007 schedule, but really won't know until the games are played).
I would say the offensive weapons are not as good this year (2yr older Lewis, no Winslow, an no JJ). But again, that's just on paper today.
This coaching staff has a different offensive philosophy than the previous (ball/clock control offense vs. a spread score quick offense).
Quinn doesn't have the arm DA has to surprise teams the first time they see him w/ little film to go off of.
Asking why X player can't do what Y player did is always a slippery slope. Every season and every circumstance is different. There is a reason for the saying of "on any given Sunday"....
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You want to know how I came up with 13-15?
yeah I'd like to know.
did you make it up?
yeah I'd like to know.
did you make it up?
He was 0-3 in 2006, 10-5 in 2007, and 3-7 in 2008.
2006
13 12/03 KC W 31-28 1 0 12 21 57.1 171 8.1 2 1 1 5 95.5 2 44 22.0 0 -- -- 1-0
14 12/07 @ PIT L 7-27 1 1 21 37 56.8 276 7.5 1 1 0 0 78.2 1 4 4.0 0 1 1 1-1
15 12/17 @ BAL L 17-27 1 1 23 32 71.9 223 7.0 2 2 5 41 85.8 -- -- -- -- 1 0 1-2
16 12/24 TB L 7-22 1 1 10 27 37.0 123 4.6 0 4 2 20 12.3 1 -1 -1.0 0 -- -- 1-3
2007
1 09/09 PIT L 7-34 1 0 13 28 46.4 184 6.6 1 1 1 12 65.2 1 -1 -1.0 0 1 1
2 09/16 CIN W 51-45 1 1 20 33 60.6 328 9.9 5 1 0 0 121.0 1 -1 -1.0 0 1 0
3 09/23 @ OAK L 24-26 1 1 18 37 48.6 248 6.7 1 2 1 24 57.0 2 12 6.0 1 1 0
4 09/30 BAL W 27-13 1 1 10 18 55.6 204 11.3 2 1 0 0 109.5 3 0 0.0 0 -- --
5 10/07 @ NE L 17-34 1 1 22 43 51.2 287 6.7 2 3 3 26 59.0 3 7 2.3 0 -- --
6 10/14 MIA W 41-31 1 1 18 25 72.0 245 9.8 3 0 1 1 142.5 5 13 2.6 1 -- --
7 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
8 10/28 @ STL W 27-20 1 1 18 25 72.0 248 9.9 3 0 2 12 143.0 1 -1 -1.0 0 -- --
9 11/04 SEA W 33-30 1 1 29 48 60.4 364 7.6 0 1 0 0 75.3 2 21 10.5 0 -- --
10 11/11 @ PIT L 28-31 1 1 16 35 45.7 123 3.5 3 0 0 0 83.4 2 5 2.5 0 -- --
11 11/18 @ BAL W 33-30 1 1 24 38 63.2 274 7.2 0 1 1 5 73.8 4 -4 -1.0 1 -- --
12 11/25 HOU W 27-17 1 1 24 35 68.6 253 7.2 2 1 1 4 96.5 -- -- -- -- 1 0
13 12/02 @ ARI L 21-27 1 1 21 41 51.2 304 7.4 2 2 1 9 71.6 2 10 5.0 0 1 1
14 12/09 @ NYJ W 24-18 1 1 16 29 55.2 185 6.4 2 1 0 0 83.3 3 3 1.0 0 -- --
15 12/16 BUF W 8-0 1 1 9 24 37.5 137 5.7 0 0 1 7 57.1 1 0 0.0 0 -- --
16 12/23 @ CIN L 14-19 1 1 29 48 60.4 251 5.2 2 4 1 7 53.4 1 6 6.0 0 -- --
17 12/30 SF W 20-7 1 1 11 20 55.0 152 7.6 1 1 1 2 75.4 1 0 0.0 0 -- --
2008
1 09/07 DAL L 10-28 1 1 11 24 45.8 114 4.8 1 0 1 0 74.0 4 24 6.0 0 2 0
2 09/14 PIT L 6-10 1 1 18 32 56.3 166 5.2 0 2 2 11 44.5 3 6 2.0 0 -- --
3 09/21 @ BAL L 10-28 1 1 14 37 37.8 125 3.4 1 3 4 26 22.9 2 -1 -0.5 0 1 0
4 09/28 @ CIN W 20-12 1 1 15 24 62.5 138 5.8 1 1 1 11 74.7 4 11 2.8 0 1 0
5 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
6 10/13 NYG W 35-14 1 1 18 29 62.1 310 10.7 2 0 0 0 121.3 4 -2 -0.5 0 1 0
7 10/19 @ WAS L 11-14 1 1 14 37 37.8 136 3.7 1 0 1 2 57.9 3 4 1.3 0 1 0
8 10/26 @ JAC W 23-17 1 1 14 27 51.9 246 9.1 1 0 1 10 95.6 -- -- -- -- 1 0
9 11/02 BAL L 27-37 1 1 17 33 51.5 219 6.6 2 1 1 9 80.2 2 8 4.0 0 -- --
10 11/06 DEN L 30-34 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
11 11/17 @ BUF W 29-27 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
12 11/23 HOU L 6-16 1 0 5 14 35.7 51 3.6 0 1 0 0 17.3 1 0 0.0 0 1 1
13 11/30 IND L 6-10 1 1 16 26 61.5 110 4.2 0 0 3 18 71.0 2 5 2.5 0 1 1
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yeah I'd like to know.
did you make it up?
He was 0-3 in 2006, 10-5 in 2007, and 3-7 in 2008.
2006
13 12/03 KC W 31-28 1 0 12 21 57.1 171 8.1 2 1 1 5 95.5 2 44 22.0 0 -- -- 1-0
14 12/07 @ PIT L 7-27 1 1 21 37 56.8 276 7.5 1 1 0 0 78.2 1 4 4.0 0 1 1 1-1
15 12/17 @ BAL L 17-27 1 1 23 32 71.9 223 7.0 2 2 5 41 85.8 -- -- -- -- 1 0 1-2
16 12/24 TB L 7-22 1 1 10 27 37.0 123 4.6 0 4 2 20 12.3 1 -1 -1.0 0 -- -- 1-3
2007
1 09/09 PIT L 7-34 1 0 13 28 46.4 184 6.6 1 1 1 12 65.2 1 -1 -1.0 0 1 1
2 09/16 CIN W 51-45 1 1 20 33 60.6 328 9.9 5 1 0 0 121.0 1 -1 -1.0 0 1 0
3 09/23 @ OAK L 24-26 1 1 18 37 48.6 248 6.7 1 2 1 24 57.0 2 12 6.0 1 1 0
4 09/30 BAL W 27-13 1 1 10 18 55.6 204 11.3 2 1 0 0 109.5 3 0 0.0 0 -- --
5 10/07 @ NE L 17-34 1 1 22 43 51.2 287 6.7 2 3 3 26 59.0 3 7 2.3 0 -- --
6 10/14 MIA W 41-31 1 1 18 25 72.0 245 9.8 3 0 1 1 142.5 5 13 2.6 1 -- --
7 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
8 10/28 @ STL W 27-20 1 1 18 25 72.0 248 9.9 3 0 2 12 143.0 1 -1 -1.0 0 -- --
9 11/04 SEA W 33-30 1 1 29 48 60.4 364 7.6 0 1 0 0 75.3 2 21 10.5 0 -- --
10 11/11 @ PIT L 28-31 1 1 16 35 45.7 123 3.5 3 0 0 0 83.4 2 5 2.5 0 -- --
11 11/18 @ BAL W 33-30 1 1 24 38 63.2 274 7.2 0 1 1 5 73.8 4 -4 -1.0 1 -- --
12 11/25 HOU W 27-17 1 1 24 35 68.6 253 7.2 2 1 1 4 96.5 -- -- -- -- 1 0
13 12/02 @ ARI L 21-27 1 1 21 41 51.2 304 7.4 2 2 1 9 71.6 2 10 5.0 0 1 1
14 12/09 @ NYJ W 24-18 1 1 16 29 55.2 185 6.4 2 1 0 0 83.3 3 3 1.0 0 -- --
15 12/16 BUF W 8-0 1 1 9 24 37.5 137 5.7 0 0 1 7 57.1 1 0 0.0 0 -- --
16 12/23 @ CIN L 14-19 1 1 29 48 60.4 251 5.2 2 4 1 7 53.4 1 6 6.0 0 -- --
17 12/30 SF W 20-7 1 1 11 20 55.0 152 7.6 1 1 1 2 75.4 1 0 0.0 0 -- --
2008
1 09/07 DAL L 10-28 1 1 11 24 45.8 114 4.8 1 0 1 0 74.0 4 24 6.0 0 2 0
2 09/14 PIT L 6-10 1 1 18 32 56.3 166 5.2 0 2 2 11 44.5 3 6 2.0 0 -- --
3 09/21 @ BAL L 10-28 1 1 14 37 37.8 125 3.4 1 3 4 26 22.9 2 -1 -0.5 0 1 0
4 09/28 @ CIN W 20-12 1 1 15 24 62.5 138 5.8 1 1 1 11 74.7 4 11 2.8 0 1 0
5 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
6 10/13 NYG W 35-14 1 1 18 29 62.1 310 10.7 2 0 0 0 121.3 4 -2 -0.5 0 1 0
7 10/19 @ WAS L 11-14 1 1 14 37 37.8 136 3.7 1 0 1 2 57.9 3 4 1.3 0 1 0
8 10/26 @ JAC W 23-17 1 1 14 27 51.9 246 9.1 1 0 1 10 95.6 -- -- -- -- 1 0
9 11/02 BAL L 27-37 1 1 17 33 51.5 219 6.6 2 1 1 9 80.2 2 8 4.0 0 -- --
10 11/06 DEN L 30-34 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
11 11/17 @ BUF W 29-27 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
12 11/23 HOU L 6-16 1 0 5 14 35.7 51 3.6 0 1 0 0 17.3 1 0 0.0 0 1 1
13 11/30 IND L 6-10 1 1 16 26 61.5 110 4.2 0 0 3 18 71.0 2 5 2.5 0 1 1
He was 0-3 in 2006, 10-5 in 2007, and 3-7 in 2008.
I see where you F'd it up.
He was 3-6 in 2008, not 3-7.
now run along son. fetch me my morning coffee.
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He was 0-3 in 2006, 10-5 in 2007, and 3-7 in 2008.
I see where you F'd it up.
He was 3-6 in 2008, not 3-7.
now run along son. fetch me my morning coffee.
He was 3-6 in 2008, not 3-7.
Yeah, he was 5-14 for 51 yards, 1INT and 1 FUMBLE, with a 17.3 QBR vs HOU. I wouldn't want to count that game either.
NFL.com offically lists his wins and losses for 2008 @ 3-7, so eat a dick.
Splits By Wins/Losses G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
Losses 7 203 95 46.8 921 4.5 28 5 7 53 26.1 7 12 66 53.8
Wins 3 80 47 58.8 694 8.7 70 4 1 29 36.2 9 2 21 98.6
"I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley -
He was 3-6 in 2008, not 3-7.
Yeah, he was 5-14 for 51 yards, 1INT and 1 FUMBLE, with a 17.3 QBR vs HOU. I wouldn't want to count that game either.
NFL.com offically lists his wins and losses for 2008 @ 3-7, so eat a dick.
Splits By Wins/Losses G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
Losses 7 203 95 46.8 921 4.5 28 5 7 53 26.1 7 12 66 53.8
Wins 3 80 47 58.8 694 8.7 70 4 1 29 36.2 9 2 21 98.6
NFL.com offically lists his wins and losses for 2008 @ 3-7, so eat a dick.
yeah NFL.com doesn't do it by starts. They list all career games, and somehow you came up with 28?
FYI they also put the KC win in there in 2006 (yet you didn't???)
now go fetch me that coffee.
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I have not seen many people call for BQ to benched. Because you attack his poor performance in the last game does not mean you want him benched. At least at this time.
I have not seen anybody but lum that says bench BQ now. I have seen several people (me included) that have said that BQ played a really bad game and have just refuted the notion that he played a C game and not a D game. I had said that he played horrible, but it was pointed out that he did not play Cutler horrible so I did change my mind to make my grade a D and not an F.
BQ's overall stat line was a D+ or C - (and if you want to know both BQ and DA got a D+ last year from me) but considering how bad it was before the Vikings started playing prevent defense I will stick with my D rating. I said on another post that it was one game, you can not judge anybody on one game. I do want to see if BQ can string together a few games together.
It seems to me that if a person says BQ played poorly and calls him dink and dunk (which he did do that one game) that you think they are calling for DA. At this time this is not about DA, because he is not the starter. It is all about BQs performance. And last game he played BAD, he did not help the team in anyway. That does not mean that is who he is, it just means he played a bad game.
He is hoping that BQ plays much better this week against Denver. Oh and on a side note if BQ does not play well then is it because of the vastly improved Denver defense? I for one will come in and say BQ had a good game if I think he did. It is on to start number 5 comparison.
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I have not seen many people call for BQ to benched. Because you attack his poor performance in the last game does not mean you want him benched. At least at this time.
I have not seen anybody but lum that says bench BQ now. I have seen several people (me included) that have said that BQ played a really bad game and have just refuted the notion that he played a C game and not a D game. I had said that he played horrible, but it was pointed out that he did not play Cutler horrible so I did change my mind to make my grade a D and not an F.
BQ's overall stat line was a D+ or C - (and if you want to know both BQ and DA got a D+ last year from me) but considering how bad it was before the Vikings started playing prevent defense I will stick with my D rating. I said on another post that it was one game, you can not judge anybody on one game. I do want to see if BQ can string together a few games together.
It seems to me that if a person says BQ played poorly and calls him dink and dunk (which he did do that one game) that you think they are calling for DA. At this time this is not about DA, because he is not the starter. It is all about BQs performance. And last game he played BAD, he did not help the team in anyway. That does not mean that is who he is, it just means he played a bad game.
He is hoping that BQ plays much better this week against Denver. Oh and on a side note if BQ does not play well then is it because of the vastly improved Denver defense? I for one will come in and say BQ had a good game if I think he did. It is on to start number 5 comparison.
Because you attack his poor performance in the last game does not mean you want him benched. At least at this time.
I have not seen anybody but lum that says bench BQ now.
No I don't think he should be benched yet. Let BQ Nation get the Bernie Kosar reminiscing out of their system. (however it may not take too long at the current pace)
Then when the real QB of this team comes in, BQ Nation will be over it so they won't boo and chant for their Brady-pie all game long.
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@inspecta said:
Ohhh lumnuts.....now your only line of defense is telling people to fetch you coffee?that's for vegas.
my request to you was to google the words dink, dunk, and quinn
did you do it yet?
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Hey Lums, im still waiting on your explanation on how/why Quinn won the QB battle this summer, you were so sure that DA bear was ahead and that he was going to win? What happened?
I just want to hear your submis... explanation
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@inspecta said:
Ohhh lumnuts.....now your only line of defense is telling people to fetch you coffee?that's for vegas.
my request to you was to google the words dink, dunk, and quinn
did you do it yet?
that's for vegas.
my request to you was to google the words dink, dunk, and quinn
did you do it yet?
And I challenge you to do the same with this
dink dunk 'tom brady'
you will see that Tom Brady is considered to be a dink n dunk QB by most, but that he is also opportunistic and goes downfield on occasion.
just sayin'
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He was 3-6 in 2008, not 3-7.
Yeah, he was 5-14 for 51 yards, 1INT and 1 FUMBLE, with a 17.3 QBR vs HOU. I wouldn't want to count that game either.
NFL.com offically lists his wins and losses for 2008 @ 3-7, so eat a dick.
Splits By Wins/Losses G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
Losses 7 203 95 46.8 921 4.5 28 5 7 53 26.1 7 12 66 53.8
Wins 3 80 47 58.8 694 8.7 70 4 1 29 36.2 9 2 21 98.6
Yeah, he was 5-14 for 51 yards, 1INT and 1 FUMBLE, with a 17.3 QBR vs HOU. I wouldn't want to count that game either.
NFL.com offically lists his wins and losses for 2008 @ 3-7, so eat a dick.
DA did not start this game though. He came in at halftime. And I know when I did his stats for last year I included it just like in 2007 I included stats from Pittsburgh but he did not start that game either.
BQs stats for that START
Brady Quinn CLE 8 18 94 0 2 42 with a rating of 21.3
And DA did only start 9 games, he played in 10.
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Because you attack his poor performance in the last game does not mean you want him benched. At least at this time.
I have not seen anybody but lum that says bench BQ now.
No I don't think he should be benched yet. Let BQ Nation get the Bernie Kosar reminiscing out of their system. (however it may not take too long at the current pace)
Then when the real QB of this team comes in, BQ Nation will be over it so they won't boo and chant for their Brady-pie all game long.
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Yeah, he was 5-14 for 51 yards, 1INT and 1 FUMBLE, with a 17.3 QBR vs HOU. I wouldn't want to count that game either.
NFL.com offically lists his wins and losses for 2008 @ 3-7, so eat a dick.
DA did not start this game though. He came in at halftime. And I know when I did his stats for last year I included it just like in 2007 I included stats from Pittsburgh but he did not start that game either.
BQs stats for that START
Brady Quinn CLE 8 18 94 0 2 42 with a rating of 21.3
And DA did only start 9 games, he played in 10.
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that's for vegas.
my request to you was to google the words dink, dunk, and quinn
did you do it yet?
And I challenge you to do the same with this
dink dunk 'tom brady'
you will see that Tom Brady is considered to be a dink n dunk QB by most, but that he is also opportunistic and goes downfield on occasion.
just sayin'
you will see that Tom Brady is considered to be a dink n dunk QB by most, but that he is also opportunistic and goes downfield on occasion.
so Quinn's similar but without the downfield strikes. As I was saying...
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you will see that Tom Brady is considered to be a dink n dunk QB by most, but that he is also opportunistic and goes downfield on occasion.
so Quinn's similar but without the downfield strikes. As I was saying...
so Quinn's similar but without the downfield strikes. As I was saying...
and like I pointed out in the other thread, he took 7 shots downfield in game 1....so much for that offering lummy
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and like I pointed out in the other thread, he took 7 shots downfield in game 1....so much for that offering lummy
I had no idea he was having that many injections ... I thought he developed normally.
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@inspecta said:
Ohhh lumnuts.....now your only line of defense is telling people to fetch you coffee?that's for vegas.
my request to you was to google the words dink, dunk, and quinn
did you do it yet?
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