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Browns hire new offensive coordinator: Ken Dorsey headed to Cleveland after Bills firing, per report

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  • @bob806 said:

    Sean McDermott has been quoted saying (paraphrasing here) " Josh Allen's style of play is not sustainable long-term." 

    McD put the shackles on Allen rushing the ball, essentially eliminating his greatest skill. The Bills were basically a comedy of errors the 1st 10 weeks, losing to the Jets, Denver, & New England. 

    McD needed a scapegoat, so he canned Dorsey. That's how I see it. McD won't blame his defense, something he's in charge of (they have heavy $$ investment in their D line, which produced 0 sacks in 2 playoff games).

    Hopefully Dorsey becomes a valuable asset here. We'll see. 

    Ken Dorsey runs a "Thinking Man's" offense.. There's a lot to digest.. Maybe it was just too complicated for Allen.. And maybe Allen is better off running a simple "Throw, Catch and Run" O more conducive to his strengths

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    Maybe it was just too complicated for Allen..

    he had his best year ever in 22 working with Dorsey

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    in fact so did Cam Newton honestly  I do not know why people are freaking  for

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    It appears that somebody has made a mistake here.  Either Buffalo fired him and he's actually not very good...and we made the mistake.  Or Buffalo knee-jerked and he IS good.  I'll say this about AVP...he did the one thing that nobody else has done this century, he won us a playoff game.

  • It appears that somebody has made a mistake here.  Either Buffalo fired him and he's actually not very good...and we made the mistake.  Or Buffalo knee-jerked and he IS good.  I'll say this about AVP...he did the one thing that nobody else has done this century, he won us a playoff game.

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    It appears that somebody has made a mistake here.  Either Buffalo fired him and he's actually not very good...and we made the mistake.  Or Buffalo knee-jerked and he IS good.  I'll say this about AVP...he did the one thing that nobody else has done this century, he won us a playoff game.

    Ken Dorsey was Josh Allen’s handpicked offensive coordinator when Brian Daboll left to become the Giants’ head coach. All he did was lead the Bills to the 2nd-ranked offense in 2022 and a top-5 offense in 2023, but he was fired midway through the season anyway. I full-throat defended Dorsey when there was buzz he might be fired and then after he was let go.

    He wasn’t the problem in Buffalo and I’m very glad he’s getting a chance to run another offense.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    Daboll wanted to take Dorsey with him but Buffalo stepped in  and gave him their O.C job

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  • It appears that somebody has made a mistake here.  Either Buffalo fired him and he's actually not very good...and we made the mistake.  Or Buffalo knee-jerked and he IS good.  I'll say this about AVP...he did the one thing that nobody else has done this century, he won us a playoff game.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    It appears that somebody has made a mistake here.  I'll say this about AVP...he did the one thing that nobody else has done this century, he won us a playoff game.

    Former ST coach Mike Priefer coached the playoff win.. since, Mike Priefer landed a college coaching job at Kentucky

    AVP did call plays in said playoff game 

    @orion said:

    Either Buffalo fired him and he's actually not very good...and we made the mistake.  Or Buffalo knee-jerked and he IS good.

    Can't image Stef changing anything. Listening to the offensive position coach's weekly pressers from last season. Stef, AVP, Stump & Callahan all had weekly scheme discussions they'd assist putting into the weekly game-plan.  Those position coaches just got re-booted.     

  • @orion said:

    It appears that somebody has made a mistake here.  I'll say this about AVP...he did the one thing that nobody else has done this century, he won us a playoff game.

    Former ST coach Mike Priefer coached the playoff win.. since, Mike Priefer landed a college coaching job at Kentucky

    AVP did call plays in said playoff game 

    @orion said:

    Either Buffalo fired him and he's actually not very good...and we made the mistake.  Or Buffalo knee-jerked and he IS good.

    Can't image Stef changing anything. Listening to the offensive position coach's weekly pressers from last season. Stef, AVP, Stump & Callahan all had weekly scheme discussions they'd assist putting into the weekly game-plan.  Those position coaches just got re-booted.     

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    Former ST coach Mike Priefer coached the playoff win.. since, Mike Priefer landed a college coaching job at Kentucky

    AVP did call plays in said playoff game 

    That's right.  Thanks.  So, to amend my statement....AVP did something no other play caller has done for the Browns this century, he called the plays to a playoff win.  🙂 

  • BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by BernieSuperBowl2
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    The Steelers hired Arthur Smith as their OC. That's good news for the Browns, Smith is a total bozo and doesn't know how to run an offense. He was terrible for the Falcons the last 3 years and rode Derrick Henry's coat tails in 2019-2020. 

  • The Steelers hired Arthur Smith as their OC. That's good news for the Browns, Smith is a total bozo and doesn't know how to run an offense. He was terrible for the Falcons the last 3 years and rode Derrick Henry's coat tails in 2019-2020. 

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    The Steelers hired Arthur Smith as their OC. That's good news for the Browns, Smith is a total bozo and doesn't know how to run an offense. He was terrible for the Falcons the last 3 years and rode Derrick Henry's coat tails in 2019-2020. 

    I never understood that hiring in Atlanta.. I thought there were better coaching prospects out there...