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Who Are The Browns Going To Pick at #54?

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    I like your pick but my bet is on the DL first. All depends on who is there, so no real pick other than positional for me.

    Understandable Aggies!   We could use another difference maker up front inside or on the edge so it'll be interesting.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    Understandable Aggies!   We could use another difference maker up front inside or on the edge so it'll be interesting.

    Well I know you always love OLs and you know I say DL because Defense wins championships.  LOL!  Be funny if we got one of each those 1st two picks.

  • @flugel said:

    We lost Harrison Bryant so this would be a nice upgrade. 

    Sanders would be a liability in run blocking...but I didn't think that Harrison was great at run blocking...nor was he much of a receiving target.  I expected more out of a Mackie winner.

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    @orion said:

    Sanders would be a liability in run blocking...but I didn't think that Harrison was great at run blocking...nor was he much of a receiving target.  I expected more out of a Mackie winner.

    Not only that Bryant was a very good OT in high school believe it or not.  I can't remember if he switched to TE as a senior or in college.  All that being the case, I thought he'd bring some of those blocking skills to our offense.  I was wrong.   

    On the other hand, David Njoku has developed into a very good blocking TE after a shaky start with that part of his game.  

    In some of our previous discussions where we picked 5 favorite guys for our 2nd and 3rd round draft slots - Dutch put Buckeyes TE (morphed from LB/DE) Cade Stover at 6-4 251 lbs as one of his favorites.  He seems like he offers that throwback dual purpose Dave Casper/Mark Bavaro type.  He made tons of clutch catches at Ohio State and had 5 TD receptions in each of the last 2 years.  

    In the end, I like your thinking about TE and Sanders is listed as the 2nd highest rated TE in 1 magazine and the 3rd in another.  Stover is rated just 1 spot behind him in each of those draft magazines fwiw.  Both guys are good clay to mold for an NFL team.

  • Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3. 

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39895470/ex-texas-longhorns-dl-tvondre-sweat-arrested-dwi

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3. 

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39895470/ex-texas-longhorns-dl-tvondre-sweat-arrested-dwi

    Do I dare say that could be one of the best things that happened to our 2024 draft?  And "with the 85th pick of the NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select Defensive Tackle and Happy Hour Coordinator T'Vondre Sweat from the Texas Longhorns in conjunction with the Travis State Penitentiary." 

    Once upon a time (1988) Al Davis drafted a DE Scott Davis 25th overall out of Illinois that was in jail during the draft.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3. 

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39895470/ex-texas-longhorns-dl-tvondre-sweat-arrested-dwi

    Do I dare say that could be one of the best things that happened to our 2024 draft?  And "with the 85th pick of the NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select Defensive Tackle and Happy Hour Coordinator T'Vondre Sweat from the Texas Longhorns in conjunction with the Travis State Penitentiary." 

    Once upon a time (1988) Al Davis drafted a DE Scott Davis 25th overall out of Illinois that was in jail during the draft.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    Do I dare say that could be one of the best things that happened to our 2024 draft?  And "with the 85th pick of the NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select Defensive Tackle and Happy Hour Coordinator T'Vondre Sweat from the Texas Longhorns in conjunction with the Travis State Penitentiary." 

    Once upon a time (1988) Al Davis drafted a DE Scott Davis 25th overall out of Illinois that was in jail during the draft.

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

  • @flugel said:

    Do I dare say that could be one of the best things that happened to our 2024 draft?  And "with the 85th pick of the NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select Defensive Tackle and Happy Hour Coordinator T'Vondre Sweat from the Texas Longhorns in conjunction with the Travis State Penitentiary." 

    Once upon a time (1988) Al Davis drafted a DE Scott Davis 25th overall out of Illinois that was in jail during the draft.

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

    DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

  • @flugel said:

    Do I dare say that could be one of the best things that happened to our 2024 draft?  And "with the 85th pick of the NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select Defensive Tackle and Happy Hour Coordinator T'Vondre Sweat from the Texas Longhorns in conjunction with the Travis State Penitentiary." 

    Once upon a time (1988) Al Davis drafted a DE Scott Davis 25th overall out of Illinois that was in jail during the draft.

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

    Baker had more fans on our board after he was a Cleveland Brown.  Where else does stuff like this take place?

  • @flugel said:

    Do I dare say that could be one of the best things that happened to our 2024 draft?  And "with the 85th pick of the NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select Defensive Tackle and Happy Hour Coordinator T'Vondre Sweat from the Texas Longhorns in conjunction with the Travis State Penitentiary." 

    Once upon a time (1988) Al Davis drafted a DE Scott Davis 25th overall out of Illinois that was in jail during the draft.

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

    Could you imagine the outrage from a certain corner of this message board if say Lamar Jackson had done something like that?

    THE OUTRAGE! ?

    (The absolute best part of that incident is a guy drafted #1 in the NFL could not outrun a cop. Comedy gold, right there.) 

  • Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3. 

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39895470/ex-texas-longhorns-dl-tvondre-sweat-arrested-dwi

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3. 

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3. 

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

    Good, let someone else take the 360lb guy. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    This means nothing, but I keep seeing "The Browns met with..." stories on various Browns sites that seem to always be OTackle, DTackle and WR.

  • @orion said:

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

    Good, let someone else take the 360lb guy. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Good, let someone else take the 360lb guy. 

    You're on a roll tonight!  ?  Looking at the weight of the guy above - I should have said you're on a bunch of rolls...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3. 

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

    How about this guy as one of our last 2 picks?  WR Luke McCaffrey, Rice 6-2 195 lbs.  Beat his older brother Christian's time in the 40 yard dash running a 4.46.  He started off as a QB for Nebraska before transferring to Rice and settling in at WR.  He'd make a very good slot receiver IMO.

    https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Luke-McCaffrey-QB-Nebraska

  • @orion said:

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

    Good, let someone else take the 360lb guy. 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Good, let someone else take the 360lb guy. 

    It's an interesting measurement number.  It's also the number degrees in a circle.  He's a big round guy.  

    He won't fall far.  Somebody will see him as BPA and take him.

  • @orion said:

    I think he's gone before we pick at 54.

    How about this guy as one of our last 2 picks?  WR Luke McCaffrey, Rice 6-2 195 lbs.  Beat his older brother Christian's time in the 40 yard dash running a 4.46.  He started off as a QB for Nebraska before transferring to Rice and settling in at WR.  He'd make a very good slot receiver IMO.

    https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Luke-McCaffrey-QB-Nebraska

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    How about this guy as one of our last 2 picks?  WR Luke McCaffrey, Rice 6-2 195 lbs.

    Good genes.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

    Could you imagine the outrage from a certain corner of this message board if say Lamar Jackson had done something like that?

    THE OUTRAGE! ?

    (The absolute best part of that incident is a guy drafted #1 in the NFL could not outrun a cop. Comedy gold, right there.) 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Could you imagine the outrage from a certain corner of this message board if say Lamar Jackson had done something like that?

    THE OUTRAGE! ?

    (The absolute best part of that incident is a guy drafted #1 in the NFL could not outrun a cop. Comedy gold, right there.) 

    And it wasn't like that cop didn't just get called out of a diner with a belly full of grits...  

  • @flugel said:

    How about this guy as one of our last 2 picks?  WR Luke McCaffrey, Rice 6-2 195 lbs.

    Good genes.  

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    Good genes.  

    Last year at this time, BYU had a WR entering the draft that was 6-1 208lbs and not very well known by NFL Draft enthusiasts.  His name is Puka Nacua and he was selected by the Rams in the 5th round (as their last of 4 picks in that round).  More specifically, he became their 8th pick.  Here's a written summary of the selection: Non-stop motor and aggressive attitude helped Nacua overachieve for the Cougars... Good hands and body control... Can be dangerous on reverses and sweeps... Not a deep threat... Will make it difficult for the Rams to cut him, but he's not a game-breaker...

    In 2023, this rookie had 105 receptions 1486 yards 6 TDs 14.2 yards per catch.   Against the Browns he had 4 rec 105 yard 1 TD 26.3 ypc and 2 carries for 34 yards. Let's just say we got acquainted more than we wanted to.

    Why all this?   There's really good prospects all over this country that aren't on national television every week.  These are the gems in rounds 5-7 that award the teams that put in the research and the GMs that trust that research.

  • @orion said:

    Good genes.  

    Last year at this time, BYU had a WR entering the draft that was 6-1 208lbs and not very well known by NFL Draft enthusiasts.  His name is Puka Nacua and he was selected by the Rams in the 5th round (as their last of 4 picks in that round).  More specifically, he became their 8th pick.  Here's a written summary of the selection: Non-stop motor and aggressive attitude helped Nacua overachieve for the Cougars... Good hands and body control... Can be dangerous on reverses and sweeps... Not a deep threat... Will make it difficult for the Rams to cut him, but he's not a game-breaker...

    In 2023, this rookie had 105 receptions 1486 yards 6 TDs 14.2 yards per catch.   Against the Browns he had 4 rec 105 yard 1 TD 26.3 ypc and 2 carries for 34 yards. Let's just say we got acquainted more than we wanted to.

    Why all this?   There's really good prospects all over this country that aren't on national television every week.  These are the gems in rounds 5-7 that award the teams that put in the research and the GMs that trust that research.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    Last year at this time, BYU had a WR entering the draft that was 6-1 208lbs and not very well known by NFL Draft enthusiasts.  His name is Puka Nacua and he was selected by the Rams in the 5th round (as their last of 4 picks in that round).  More specifically, he became their 8th pick.  Here's a written summary of the selection: Non-stop motor and aggressive attitude helped Nacua overachieve for the Cougars... Good hands and body control... Can be dangerous on reverses and sweeps... Not a deep threat... Will make it difficult for the Rams to cut him, but he's not a game-breaker...

    In 2023, this rookie had 105 receptions 1486 yards 6 TDs 14.2 yards per catch.   Against the Browns he had 4 rec 105 yard 1 TD 26.3 ypc and 2 carries for 34 yards. Let's just say we got acquainted more than we wanted to.

    Why all this?   There's really good prospects all over this country that aren't on national television every week.  These are the gems in rounds 5-7 that award the teams that put in the research and the GMs that trust that research.

    Ainias Smith   LOL!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Now where is cal to defend this guy? After all we had videos of a drunk Baker Mayfield with cops before we drafted him.

    Could you imagine the outrage from a certain corner of this message board if say Lamar Jackson had done something like that?

    THE OUTRAGE! ?

    (The absolute best part of that incident is a guy drafted #1 in the NFL could not outrun a cop. Comedy gold, right there.) 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    (The absolute best part of that incident is a guy drafted #1 in the NFL could not outrun a cop. Comedy gold, right there.) 

    And yet he made the decision to try and run for the 1st down instead of simply tossing it to a wide open Demetric Felton standing just beyond the sticks at the sideline...while trailing in the 4th qtr of a late season game.  We had to punt.  We lost the game and wound up missing the playoffs.  He looked right at wide open Felton...and decided to outrun guys that are much faster than cops.   That pissed me off.  From that point on I no longer felt that he was the QB that we needed....but that we'd be stuck with him.  And this is why I've never been able to bash Haslem, Berry, DePo and/or Stef for the trade for Watson because some, or all of them, must have felt the same way that I did.  I'll sometimes bash the fact that we spent all of the draft picks and $$ for something that we've really got virtually nothing out of so far...but I can't bash them for doing what they did.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    (The absolute best part of that incident is a guy drafted #1 in the NFL could not outrun a cop. Comedy gold, right there.) 

    And yet he made the decision to try and run for the 1st down instead of simply tossing it to a wide open Demetric Felton standing just beyond the sticks at the sideline...while trailing in the 4th qtr of a late season game.  We had to punt.  We lost the game and wound up missing the playoffs.  He looked right at wide open Felton...and decided to outrun guys that are much faster than cops.   That pissed me off.  From that point on I no longer felt that he was the QB that we needed....but that we'd be stuck with him.  And this is why I've never been able to bash Haslem, Berry, DePo and/or Stef for the trade for Watson because some, or all of them, must have felt the same way that I did.  I'll sometimes bash the fact that we spent all of the draft picks and $$ for something that we've really got virtually nothing out of so far...but I can't bash them for doing what they did.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    And yet he made the decision to try and run for the 1st down instead of simply tossing it to a wide open Demetric Felton standing just beyond the sticks at the sideline...while trailing in the 4th qtr of a late season game.  We had to punt.  We lost the game and wound up missing the playoffs.  He looked right at wide open Felton...and decided to outrun guys that are much faster than cops.   That pissed me off.  From that point on I no longer felt that he was the QB that we needed....but that we'd be stuck with him.  And this is why I've never been able to bash Haslem, Berry, DePo and/or Stef for the trade for Watson because some, or all of them, must have felt the same way that I did.  I'll sometimes bash the fact that we spent all of the draft picks and $$ for something that we've really got virtually nothing out of so far...but I can't bash them for doing what they did.

    ? For the part in bold.  I remember Mudfly stopped in right after the trade to remind us that outside of Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward, this franchise has been best known for messing up 1st round picks.  It was 10 years between selecting Joe Thomas and Myles Garrett/David Njoku (who took a while to meet expectations). 

    When Watson plays like the National Champion QB who buried Ohio State and Alabama (loaded w/ 1st and 2nd round prospects on their defenses); and the Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston for 2 years - very few will worry about what the Browns gave up.

  • @orion said:

    And yet he made the decision to try and run for the 1st down instead of simply tossing it to a wide open Demetric Felton standing just beyond the sticks at the sideline...while trailing in the 4th qtr of a late season game.  We had to punt.  We lost the game and wound up missing the playoffs.  He looked right at wide open Felton...and decided to outrun guys that are much faster than cops.   That pissed me off.  From that point on I no longer felt that he was the QB that we needed....but that we'd be stuck with him.  And this is why I've never been able to bash Haslem, Berry, DePo and/or Stef for the trade for Watson because some, or all of them, must have felt the same way that I did.  I'll sometimes bash the fact that we spent all of the draft picks and $$ for something that we've really got virtually nothing out of so far...but I can't bash them for doing what they did.

    ? For the part in bold.  I remember Mudfly stopped in right after the trade to remind us that outside of Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward, this franchise has been best known for messing up 1st round picks.  It was 10 years between selecting Joe Thomas and Myles Garrett/David Njoku (who took a while to meet expectations). 

    When Watson plays like the National Champion QB who buried Ohio State and Alabama (loaded w/ 1st and 2nd round prospects on their defenses); and the Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston for 2 years - very few will worry about what the Browns gave up.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    When Watson plays like the National Champion QB

    Yeah, but it's been so long that I think that the When has become If.