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  • F FY56 wrote on last edited by FY56
    #65

    You all think Prime Time is gonna let his kid play here???????

    He’ll demand a trade…or he’ll inform Berry beforehand he ain’t goin to Cleveland, so don’t bother. 
     

    It’s probably best anyway. Dad will be a distraction. We don’t need any more distractions.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.

    I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again. 

     Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB. 

     To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.   

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #66

    @tiamat63 said:

     Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB. 

     To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.   

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team?  The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction.  What about our Cousin Vinny?   Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by SdBacker80
    #67

    I like Aiden O’Connell here next year.  If the Raiders (very possible) go QB he’s on the market. 
     

    Not a big splash I know but let’s keep it real given our circumstances 

     

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB. 

     To say that Fields and Watson are one and the same is short-sighted.   

    Is he a QB who stands in the pocket, reads defenses and goes through progressions well, or is he someone who tends to be a one read then run guy? Because Watson wasn’t that guy in Houston, but he kind of regressed to that in Cleveland 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #68

    @dutch-oven said:

    Is he a QB who stands in the pocket, reads defenses and goes through progressions well, or is he someone who tends to be a one read then run guy? 

    Most are, just depends on how fast/well they do it.  

    @flugel said:

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Yep.

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB. 

     To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.   

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team?  The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction.  What about our Cousin Vinny?   Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #69

    @flugel said:

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team?  The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction.  What about our Cousin Vinny?   Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...

    Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB. 

     To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.   

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team?  The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction.  What about our Cousin Vinny?   Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...

    A AP1 wrote on last edited by
    #70

    @flugel said:

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team?  The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction.  What about our Cousin Vinny?   Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...

    @canton-dawg said:

    Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?

    Add in Wentz, Flacco, Brissett...

  • A AP1

    @flugel said:

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team?  The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction.  What about our Cousin Vinny?   Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...

    @canton-dawg said:

    Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?

    Add in Wentz, Flacco, Brissett...

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #71

    @ap1 said:

    Add in Wentz, Flacco, Brissett...

    And any of them would be an improvement over the current QB room.

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #72

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  • @flugel said:

    Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to.  That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to. 

    Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team?  The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction.  What about our Cousin Vinny?   Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...

    Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #73

    @canton-dawg said:

    Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?

    Those are options.  I like the Cousins idea best if he's willing to park his career in Cleveland.  As likable as Minshew is - last year wasn't one of his better years with 9 TD Passes and 10 INTs largely due to the surrounding talent.  That said, the Raiders beat the Browns so this doesn't offer him much more.  Darnold will probably have a few choices after last year; but this offense won't have the same toys for the QB.  In the playoffs, we saw how bad he can be without pass pro - which I fear coming here would be like.

    You never know though. I know I don't...

  • @ap1 said:

    Add in Wentz, Flacco, Brissett...

    And any of them would be an improvement over the current QB room.

    A AP1 wrote on last edited by
    #74

    @canton-dawg said:

    And any of them would be an improvement over the current QB room.

    Age

    Minshew - 28

    Flacco - 40

    Brissett - 32

    Wentz - 32

    Cousins - 36

    Darnold - 27

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #75

    I really like this evaluator, and he does a good job comparing Ward vs Sanders and why Sanders is the better QB and better fit for Stefanski. 

  • I really like this evaluator, and he does a good job comparing Ward vs Sanders and why Sanders is the better QB and better fit for Stefanski. 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #76

    @dutch-oven said:

    why Sanders is the better QB

    I agree.  I'd want Sanders.  

    .....and Sanders isn't going to 'fall' in round 1.  Even if he got past picks 1 & 2, he'd go very soon after.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    why Sanders is the better QB

    I agree.  I'd want Sanders.  

    .....and Sanders isn't going to 'fall' in round 1.  Even if he got past picks 1 & 2, he'd go very soon after.

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #77

    @orion said:

    I agree.  I'd want Sanders.  

    .....and Sanders isn't going to 'fall' in round 1.  Even if he got past picks 1 & 2, he'd go very soon after.

    There may be some concerns about his long term durability - he had a fractured back at one point, numbness in extremities, teams will check him out physically - with his accuracy and qb smarts, he might drop a bit, but surely will still go that high unless a physical shows a problem with that.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    why Sanders is the better QB

    I agree.  I'd want Sanders.  

    .....and Sanders isn't going to 'fall' in round 1.  Even if he got past picks 1 & 2, he'd go very soon after.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #78

    @orion said:

    I agree.  I'd want Sanders.  

    .....and Sanders isn't going to 'fall' in round 1.  Even if he got past picks 1 & 2, he'd go very soon after.

    Agreed! And I also hope we take Sanders if TN doesn't.  Is it really going to be that easy for us though?  

    I've heard a rumor Pittsburgh is very interested in trading up with TN to get him.  I think that came from Mike Greenberg or someone on ESPN.  That rumor could very well reach Berea and entice the Browns to try to trade up for him.  

  • @orion said:

    I agree.  I'd want Sanders.  

    .....and Sanders isn't going to 'fall' in round 1.  Even if he got past picks 1 & 2, he'd go very soon after.

    Agreed! And I also hope we take Sanders if TN doesn't.  Is it really going to be that easy for us though?  

    I've heard a rumor Pittsburgh is very interested in trading up with TN to get him.  I think that came from Mike Greenberg or someone on ESPN.  That rumor could very well reach Berea and entice the Browns to try to trade up for him.  

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #79

    @flugel said:

    I've heard a rumor Pittsburgh is very interested in trading up with TN to get him.  I think that came from Mike Greenberg or someone on ESPN.  That rumor could very well reach Berea and entice the Browns to try to trade up for him.  

    Oooo...we hate the Steelers!   And our guys just love to call the bet and raise don't they.

    Ya know, most of the draft gurus think that Ward is going to be taken before Sanders....and that includes teams trading up to #1. 

  • @flugel said:

    I've heard a rumor Pittsburgh is very interested in trading up with TN to get him.  I think that came from Mike Greenberg or someone on ESPN.  That rumor could very well reach Berea and entice the Browns to try to trade up for him.  

    Oooo...we hate the Steelers!   And our guys just love to call the bet and raise don't they.

    Ya know, most of the draft gurus think that Ward is going to be taken before Sanders....and that includes teams trading up to #1. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #80

    @orion said:

    Oooo...we hate the Steelers!   And our guys just love to call the bet and raise don't they.

    Ya know, most of the draft gurus think that Ward is going to be taken before Sanders....and that includes teams trading up to #1. 

    I'm seeing a lot of people put Ward as the 1st QB in the mock drafts  - like the one I shared had the Giants taking Ward after TN took Carter and the Browns took Hunter.  They wouldn't do that if they weren't hearing it or reading it or actually thinking it. We'll see my man!

  • @orion said:

    Oooo...we hate the Steelers!   And our guys just love to call the bet and raise don't they.

    Ya know, most of the draft gurus think that Ward is going to be taken before Sanders....and that includes teams trading up to #1. 

    I'm seeing a lot of people put Ward as the 1st QB in the mock drafts  - like the one I shared had the Giants taking Ward after TN took Carter and the Browns took Hunter.  They wouldn't do that if they weren't hearing it or reading it or actually thinking it. We'll see my man!

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #81

    @flugel said:

    I'm seeing a lot of people put Ward as the 1st QB in the mock drafts  - like the one I shared had the Giants taking Ward after TN took Carter and the Browns took Hunter.  They wouldn't do that if they weren't hearing it or reading it or actually thinking it. We'll see my man!

    Oh Tom, you know this is the silly season when they float a lot of misdirecting rumors out there to throw off the competition.?

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #82

    All I will say is Travis Hunter on one side and Jeudy on the other.... appeals to me big... There aren't many opportunities to get a pairing like that...roll with Flacco and Pickett this year... get our guy next year?.... ,,,, Tough choice....

  • All I will say is Travis Hunter on one side and Jeudy on the other.... appeals to me big... There aren't many opportunities to get a pairing like that...roll with Flacco and Pickett this year... get our guy next year?.... ,,,, Tough choice....

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #83

    @nickers said:

    All I will say is Travis Hunter on one side and Jeudy on the other.... appeals to me big... There aren't many opportunities to get a pairing like that...roll with Flacco and Pickett this year... get our guy next year?.... ,,,, Tough choice....

    He'll be tempting for a lot of teams. BPA - he's #1 overall IMO.  How many times is 1 player the best WR and one of the best corners in a draft?  A lot of QBs in this league want a weapon like Hunter. 

  • @nickers said:

    All I will say is Travis Hunter on one side and Jeudy on the other.... appeals to me big... There aren't many opportunities to get a pairing like that...roll with Flacco and Pickett this year... get our guy next year?.... ,,,, Tough choice....

    He'll be tempting for a lot of teams. BPA - he's #1 overall IMO.  How many times is 1 player the best WR and one of the best corners in a draft?  A lot of QBs in this league want a weapon like Hunter. 

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #84

    @flugel said:

    He'll be tempting for a lot of teams. BPA - he's #1 overall IMO.  How many times is 1 player the best WR and one of the best corners in a draft?  A lot of QBs in this league want a weapon like Hunter. 

    You know BB would be all over that pick... Would love to to see 2 way players merge back into the league... it makes the game fun...