Who Are You Taking For Browns at #2?
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Rumor around pittspuke is Sanders dealing to go to Squeelers.
Let me ask your opinion here and there's no right or wrong answer. If they did that, that means Justin Fields would be available (they were 4-2 when he was starting) should we sign him for the same kind of money he agreed to last year and then draft a mid round QB?
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Rumor around pittspuke is Sanders dealing to go to Squeelers.
Let me ask your opinion here and there's no right or wrong answer. If they did that, that means Justin Fields would be available (they were 4-2 when he was starting) should we sign him for the same kind of money he agreed to last year and then draft a mid round QB?
Let me ask your opinion here and there's no right or wrong answer. If they did that, that means Justin Fields would be available (they were 4-2 when he was starting) should we sign him for the same kind of money he agreed to last year and then draft a mid round QB?
I don’t know if he would have success in this offense. But I’d design an offense where he’s out of the pocket playing with reckless abandon and that’s easier to swallow if he’s not given a long term high dollar contract.
It is not a terrible option.
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Every year that you don't have your intended QB of the future on your roster is just another wasted year.
You can draft the best edge rusher in the history of the game....but if you don't have a QB, you can't win. And that great edge rusher is just going to want to leave your team.
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Let me ask your opinion here and there's no right or wrong answer. If they did that, that means Justin Fields would be available (they were 4-2 when he was starting) should we sign him for the same kind of money he agreed to last year and then draft a mid round QB?
I don’t know if he would have success in this offense. But I’d design an offense where he’s out of the pocket playing with reckless abandon and that’s easier to swallow if he’s not given a long term high dollar contract.
It is not a terrible option.
I don’t know if he would have success in this offense. But I’d design an offense where he’s out of the pocket playing with reckless abandon and that’s easier to swallow if he’s not given a long term high dollar contract.
It is not a terrible option.
Good points. I don't know how he'll do but the supply of QBs in this draft is kind of scary which means desperate teams will be reaching.
These were Justin Fields' stats in (2019) his 2nd to last season at Ohio State (the year before he led them to the National Championship game vrs Bama). A ratio of 41 TD passes to 3 INTs tops anyone in this draft class. But the next year that ratio dropped to 22:6 - but they made it the the BCS Championship Game.
Passing G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G 14 354 238 67.2 3273 9.2 41 3 181.43 25.3 233.8 That was 2 years before he experience the same type of culture shock in Chicago that Caleb Williams would later experience.
I'm only bringing Fields up as a potential veteran FA veteran while the Browns plan to draft a rookie QB somewhere.
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He'd be better than most options I've seen.
Steelers really going after Sanders after they tried getting Stafford though?
I know we need a QB but even the best qb isn't going to win when everyone around him can't do their part.
I still like the idea of getting the best trench guys we can and finding a competent enough qb until someone good comes along.
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The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.
I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again.
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The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.
I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again.
The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.
I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again.
Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.
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The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.
I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again.
Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.
Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one and the same is short-sighted.
Is he a QB who stands in the pocket, reads defenses and goes through progressions well, or is he someone who tends to be a one read then run guy? Because Watson wasn’t that guy in Houston, but he kind of regressed to that in Cleveland
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The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.
I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again.
The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.
I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again.
Hey I'd be open to any ideas you have about what veteran QB can help us. Until then, let me explain the reality we're up against.
The Gary Kubiak offense Stefanski WANTS to run here doesn't have a LT and rarely has a healthy starting RT. Bitonio is starting his 12th season at LG (sounding very much like the current situation is enticing him to retire). The backup/swing Tackle Dawand Jones is 2 for 2 showing up way overweight and out of shape leading to 2 consecutive IR appearances. We do have a percentage of Nick Chubb though. While Stefanski has extensive experience and 2 Coach of the Year honors (with Baker as his QB 1 year and 5 different QBs another year) most of his prior NFL experience was limited to playing for 1 team indoors in Minnesota. Toward the end, Minnesota had to bring Kubiak back as a consultant to Stefanski when Minnesota's offense was struggling. His college experience was playing Safety at Penn.
Anyway, when a guy can throw 41 TDs to just 3 INTs 1 year at Ohio State - there's some clay to mold that the serial QB killers in Chicago weren't capable of tapping. With the current reality of this offense - WHAT available veteran QB out there wants any part of playing QB aside from Flacco maybe. There is no fit for this out there. I remember people informing me it's okay they got rid of Flacco; because him doing well would only make Watson's situation worse with the fanbase. I know we remember these conversations guys. We were literally talking about Watson's potential feelings and confidence.
I'm just trying to think of what veteran QB that could be a fit for the unfair situation before we throw an inexperienced rookie QB out there. It had to be a guy that can at least move. Like I said, Pittsburgh was 4-2 with Fields starting with a very affordable contract I might add. He is and remains the young veteran QB I'd like to see us take a shot at until the QB we draft is ready to go. Maybe our problem is we don't have a coaching staff that can adapt to the talent of the QB? If we can't do it with a 230 million $ guarantee at QB who succeeded at Clemson and Houston before coming to this offense - who can we do it with? Kubiak's Offense borrows and blends a lot of principles from Dan Reeves and Mike Shanahan that John Elway thrived in when Kubiak was his backup QB. Elway was running a 4.5 coming out of Stanford so a cement shoe'd QB doesn't have to be a pre-requisite. A slow moving QB could be a reminder of what Joe Flacco's last game looked like here when the pass pro was overwhelmed.
I'm open to hearing ideas from others about what veteran QBs we should be thinking about to keep us from hurrying a QB we draft out there before he's ready....
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The absolute last thing I would want is for Justin Fields to try and play in the Stefanski offense, or for Stefanski to try again to change everything for his RPO QB.
I'm actually shocked that people can watch what just happened with this team to only want to go out and do it immediately again.
Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.
Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.
Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to. That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to.
Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team? The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction. What about our Cousin Vinny? Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I like Aiden O’Connell here next year. If the Raiders (very possible) go QB he’s on the market.
Not a big splash I know but let’s keep it real given our circumstances
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Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one and the same is short-sighted.
Is he a QB who stands in the pocket, reads defenses and goes through progressions well, or is he someone who tends to be a one read then run guy? Because Watson wasn’t that guy in Houston, but he kind of regressed to that in Cleveland
Is he a QB who stands in the pocket, reads defenses and goes through progressions well, or is he someone who tends to be a one read then run guy?
Most are, just depends on how fast/well they do it.
Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to. That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to.
Yep.
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Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.
Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to. That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to.
Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team? The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction. What about our Cousin Vinny? Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...
Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to. That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to.
Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team? The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction. What about our Cousin Vinny? Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...
Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Fields played in a run-heavy offense with elements of the QB centric run sprinkled in similar to some of the designs I broke down when Brissett was our starting QB.
To say that Fields and Watson are one in the same is short-sighted.
Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to. That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to.
Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team? The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction. What about our Cousin Vinny? Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...
Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to. That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to.
Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team? The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction. What about our Cousin Vinny? Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...
Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?
Add in Wentz, Flacco, Brissett...
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Well, it's sounding like Pittsburgh is leaning more toward keeping Fields so anyone worrying about Fields coming here doesn't have to. That was a waste of a discussion I dedicated way too many paragraphs to.
Are there any available veteran QBs that can help this team? The current roster/situation here isn't exactly a recruiting attraction. What about our Cousin Vinny? Testaverde is only 61 years old but he doesn't look a day over 51...
Minshew? Cousins? Darnold?
Add in Wentz, Flacco, Brissett...
Add in Wentz, Flacco, Brissett...
And any of them would be an improvement over the current QB room.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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