College Football on TV - 11/25, 11/27, 11/28, 11/29
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12 is too many IMO. But I like the idea of award the top 4 with a bye (they are already playing an extra game this week). Over bringing in more 2/3 loss teams to a playoff
12 is too many IMO. But I like the idea of award the top 4 with a bye (they are already playing an extra game this week). Over bringing in more 2/3 loss teams to a playoff
I really hope 12 will be the max... but money will make them expand it to 16.
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Not sure Bama will be in with 3 losses.
And in 2020 Notre Dame lost their last game of the season 34-10 to go 10-1 while Texas A&M lost only an early game to #2 Bama to go 8-1 in the SEC (COVID year we only played SEC-no cupcake games). Yet ND was chosen to go play in the CFB P and got their ass handed to them by Bama 31-14. #5 A&M settled for beating N. Caro. in the Orange Bowl.
Another dangerous precedent if Bama doesn’t get in with three loses. All the teams playing this week are playing an extra game. Would Bama be better off “taking a knee” and forfeiting then? And Notre Dame will never have conference championship game.
A&M got screwed that year. OSU got in too with 6 games played or something like that we certainly benefited
Another dangerous precedent if Bama doesn’t get in with three loses. All the teams playing this week are playing an extra game. Would Bama be better off “taking a knee” and forfeiting then? And Notre Dame will never have conference championship game.
A&M got screwed that year. OSU got in too with 6 games played or something like that we certainly benefited
Bama has a better argument for inclusion over Texas. They would be 1-1 with Champ Georgia if they lose. Texas 0-1. It's why I think Texas did us a favor, because if we had to beat Georgia in Atlanta, that would have been very, very difficult and might have dropped us even lower than our current 7th spot. Bama should not be punished for qualifying for the SEC Championship.
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I am not sure why it has impacted recruiting today they lost a WR and could lose another. He was as good as gone either this year or at the very least next year. He wasn’t going to be around the next 3-4 years.
Big blow for recruiting….im mixed on his playcalling. He develops the WRs well too…even if he’s got a lot of talent to work with
It definitely has affected today's WR recruiting, as 2 or 3 WRs have committed elsewhere.
Ohio State had great WRs before Hartline became their WR coach, and they'll have great ones after... but they need to fill his spot with someone who WR prospects want to play for - like Hartline.
I honestly wonder if Chip Kelly could be an option to come back next season to be Ohio State's OC again?
2 or 3 WRs have committed elsewhere
KDW was gone to his hometown USC before the Hartline news broke.. I call that normal recruiting.
Legend Bey only signed with Tennessee because he's now 17 and his mom would only let him sign with UT.. UT already said they're not stopping his transfer to OSU in a month after he turns 18 and the portal opens.
All the rest signed with OSU.
Chris Henry is likely gone but I wonder how much he wants to be developed.. for example, Bryce Underwood has a bag but at this point isn't good at the position of QB and isn't at a place that can develop him.
You can sign the next 10 years of WR1's and none of them will be Jeremiah Smith.. I'm really not worried because each of the WR's OSU signed dominated their games.
Also, OSU's offense didn't become a Death Star until Chip Kelly publically chewed out Hartline to get OSU WR's to block the perimeter.. It's not "just" Hartline's magic touch. Hartline's start as WR coach were multiple seasons of basically mid WR performance that get forgotten to history.
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2 or 3 WRs have committed elsewhere
KDW was gone to his hometown USC before the Hartline news broke.. I call that normal recruiting.
Legend Bey only signed with Tennessee because he's now 17 and his mom would only let him sign with UT.. UT already said they're not stopping his transfer to OSU in a month after he turns 18 and the portal opens.
All the rest signed with OSU.
Chris Henry is likely gone but I wonder how much he wants to be developed.. for example, Bryce Underwood has a bag but at this point isn't good at the position of QB and isn't at a place that can develop him.
You can sign the next 10 years of WR1's and none of them will be Jeremiah Smith.. I'm really not worried because each of the WR's OSU signed dominated their games.
Also, OSU's offense didn't become a Death Star until Chip Kelly publically chewed out Hartline to get OSU WR's to block the perimeter.. It's not "just" Hartline's magic touch. Hartline's start as WR coach were multiple seasons of basically mid WR performance that get forgotten to history.
Legend Bey only signed with Tennessee because he's now 17 and his mom would only let him sign with UT.. UT already said they're not stopping his transfer to OSU in a month after he turns 18 and the portal open
Wow, I have not heard this.
Will he still transfer to OSU when the portal opens now that Hartline left? He's not strictly a WR, he's kind of a jack-of-all-trades WR/RB guy.
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Bey came to school on signing day morning wearing all OSU gear, all the swag at his table was OSU, the now-deleted Insta posts were all OSU.. It's real. Day presented the plan they created to utilize him in the offense & obviously that was more impactful than the others. Sorry for the kid but at least he's keeping the drama behind closed doors bc this obviously wasnt his idea.
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12 is too many IMO. But I like the idea of award the top 4 with a bye (they are already playing an extra game this week). Over bringing in more 2/3 loss teams to a playoff
12 is too many IMO. But I like the idea of award the top 4 with a bye (they are already playing an extra game this week). Over bringing in more 2/3 loss teams to a playoff
And sometimes as fans we wonder why many NFL rookies hit the wall midway through their 1st season. These playoffs go about 4 weeks after the Conference Championships are concluded. As soon as that's done - many of these kids play in a college all star game to catch the eyes of NFL scouts. When that's all completed many attend an intensified human performance training camp up until the NFL Combines. Following that, they have NFL workouts for interested teams. Then comes the NFL draft immediately followed by rookie mini-camps/OTAs/addtl mini-camps followed by training camp followed by the NFL season. There's really not much opportunity for a lot of rest and recuperation, which are essentials for improvements or at least maintenance in strength and conditioning. It's walks a tight rope between performance enhancement and over training.
Before I go, don't forget Joe Weider's Oxygen Intake principle - breathing. ?
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12 is too many IMO. But I like the idea of award the top 4 with a bye (they are already playing an extra game this week). Over bringing in more 2/3 loss teams to a playoff
And sometimes as fans we wonder why many NFL rookies hit the wall midway through their 1st season. These playoffs go about 4 weeks after the Conference Championships are concluded. As soon as that's done - many of these kids play in a college all star game to catch the eyes of NFL scouts. When that's all completed many attend an intensified human performance training camp up until the NFL Combines. Following that, they have NFL workouts for interested teams. Then comes the NFL draft immediately followed by rookie mini-camps/OTAs/addtl mini-camps followed by training camp followed by the NFL season. There's really not much opportunity for a lot of rest and recuperation, which are essentials for improvements or at least maintenance in strength and conditioning. It's walks a tight rope between performance enhancement and over training.
Before I go, don't forget Joe Weider's Oxygen Intake principle - breathing. ?
And sometimes as fans we wonder why many NFL rookies hit the wall midway through their 1st season. These playoffs go about 4 weeks after the Conference Championships are concluded. As soon as that's done - many of these kids play in a college all star game to catch the eyes of NFL scouts. When that's all completed many attend an intensified human performance training camp up until the NFL Combines. Following that, they have NFL workouts for interested teams. Then comes the NFL draft immediately followed by rookie mini-camps/OTAs/addtl mini-camps followed by training camp followed by the NFL season. There's really not much opportunity for a lot of rest and recuperation, which are essentials for improvements or at least maintenance in strength and conditioning. It's walks a tight rope between performance enhancement and over training.
Before I go, don't forget Joe Weider's Oxygen Intake principle - breathing. ?
Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
What I think will happen. They will end around the same time but expand the playoff but start the playoff sooner. So you will see maybe two “warmup” out of conference games Ohio State vs Ball State and Missouri State instead of 3 or 4 non conference games and then your 9 conference games essentially taking away a scheduled game and add a playoff game.
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And sometimes as fans we wonder why many NFL rookies hit the wall midway through their 1st season. These playoffs go about 4 weeks after the Conference Championships are concluded. As soon as that's done - many of these kids play in a college all star game to catch the eyes of NFL scouts. When that's all completed many attend an intensified human performance training camp up until the NFL Combines. Following that, they have NFL workouts for interested teams. Then comes the NFL draft immediately followed by rookie mini-camps/OTAs/addtl mini-camps followed by training camp followed by the NFL season. There's really not much opportunity for a lot of rest and recuperation, which are essentials for improvements or at least maintenance in strength and conditioning. It's walks a tight rope between performance enhancement and over training.
Before I go, don't forget Joe Weider's Oxygen Intake principle - breathing. ?
Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
What I think will happen. They will end around the same time but expand the playoff but start the playoff sooner. So you will see maybe two “warmup” out of conference games Ohio State vs Ball State and Missouri State instead of 3 or 4 non conference games and then your 9 conference games essentially taking away a scheduled game and add a playoff game.
Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
What I think will happen. They will end around the same time but expand the playoff but start the playoff sooner. So you will see maybe two “warmup” out of conference games Ohio State vs Ball State and Missouri State instead of 3 or 4 non conference games and then your 9 conference games essentially taking away a scheduled game and add a playoff game.
That makes sense to me. FWIW, the North Texas vrs USF game was on in the Tampa area. North Texas didn't just lose - this was the score depicted below. More specifically, 1 more "Thank you sir, may I have another" and they're at Faber College in Dean Wormer's office hearing their football season is over and all their scholarships are on double secret probation. USF finished with 3 losses fwiw...
To punish Texas for losing the opener at Ohio State by only a TD - is absurd; especially considering ESPN is saying that Alabama shouldn't be booted if they lose their Conference Championship to Georgia (and get a 3rd loss). IMO, North Texas needed to be undefeated to make the CFP.
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Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
What I think will happen. They will end around the same time but expand the playoff but start the playoff sooner. So you will see maybe two “warmup” out of conference games Ohio State vs Ball State and Missouri State instead of 3 or 4 non conference games and then your 9 conference games essentially taking away a scheduled game and add a playoff game.
That makes sense to me. FWIW, the North Texas vrs USF game was on in the Tampa area. North Texas didn't just lose - this was the score depicted below. More specifically, 1 more "Thank you sir, may I have another" and they're at Faber College in Dean Wormer's office hearing their football season is over and all their scholarships are on double secret probation. USF finished with 3 losses fwiw...
To punish Texas for losing the opener at Ohio State by only a TD - is absurd; especially considering ESPN is saying that Alabama shouldn't be booted if they lose their Conference Championship to Georgia (and get a 3rd loss). IMO, North Texas needed to be undefeated to make the CFP.
That makes sense to me. FWIW, the North Texas vrs USF game was on in the Tampa area. North Texas didn't just lose - this was the score depicted below. More specifically, 1 more "Thank you sir, may I have another" and they're at Faber College in Dean Wormer's office hearing their football season is over and all their scholarships are on double secret probation. USF finished with 3 losses fwiw...
To punish Texas for losing the opener at Ohio State by only a TD - is absurd; especially considering ESPN is saying that Alabama shouldn't be booted if they lose their Conference Championship to Georgia (and get a 3rd loss). IMO, North Texas needed to be undefeated to make the CFP.
Agree. And if James Madison wins (23 point favorite) and Duke beats Virginia you will could see James Madison over Texas as well. JMU lost by two TDs to Louisville. Louisville lost four games in the ACC this season.
when we had 4 teams the 5 and 6 teams were unfairly left out.
Now we have 12 and the 13/14 teams have issues with the selection process.
see where this going? Expand to 16 and now team 17 is unfairly sitting at home.
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That makes sense to me. FWIW, the North Texas vrs USF game was on in the Tampa area. North Texas didn't just lose - this was the score depicted below. More specifically, 1 more "Thank you sir, may I have another" and they're at Faber College in Dean Wormer's office hearing their football season is over and all their scholarships are on double secret probation. USF finished with 3 losses fwiw...
To punish Texas for losing the opener at Ohio State by only a TD - is absurd; especially considering ESPN is saying that Alabama shouldn't be booted if they lose their Conference Championship to Georgia (and get a 3rd loss). IMO, North Texas needed to be undefeated to make the CFP.
Agree. And if James Madison wins (23 point favorite) and Duke beats Virginia you will could see James Madison over Texas as well. JMU lost by two TDs to Louisville. Louisville lost four games in the ACC this season.
when we had 4 teams the 5 and 6 teams were unfairly left out.
Now we have 12 and the 13/14 teams have issues with the selection process.
see where this going? Expand to 16 and now team 17 is unfairly sitting at home.
Agree. And if James Madison wins (23 point favorite) and Duke beats Virginia you will could see James Madison over Texas as well. JMU lost by two TDs to Louisville. Louisville lost four games in the ACC this season.
when we had 4 teams the 5 and 6 teams were unfairly left out.
Now we have 12 and the 13/14 teams have issues with the selection process.
see where this going? Expand to 16 and now team 17 is unfairly sitting at home.
Good points - agreed! I don't want more teams; so I hope there's some blowouts in the CFP. Let's get back to remembering this is college football where once upon a time most/all of the strongest programs played Bowl Games and 1 program or 2 programs were awarded the Natty via the polls or split polls. What is in tact is fine.
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Chris Henry Jr, five star wide receiver out of California, has announced he is signing this afternoon with the Ohio State Buckeyes.
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Texas isnt penalized for losing to Ohio State. Texas would be rightfully punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. One of multiple equivalents would be Illinois, who was supposed to be a fringe playoff team this year.. but as if by magic, both OSU and Indiana put Illinois away. Texas could not.
Funny how the SEC looks for excuses when they have to compete in a landscape where everyone pays the athletes.. instead of just them. Sure, it's a magical coincidence that the entire Alabama team under Saban always had a brand-new Charger, right?
I also think the whole Mendoza "heisman moment" vs penn state is completely ridiculous... The only reason the game was close in the first place is because Mendoza played poorly that game.
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Texas isnt penalized for losing to Ohio State. Texas would be rightfully punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. One of multiple equivalents would be Illinois, who was supposed to be a fringe playoff team this year.. but as if by magic, both OSU and Indiana put Illinois away. Texas could not.
Funny how the SEC looks for excuses when they have to compete in a landscape where everyone pays the athletes.. instead of just them. Sure, it's a magical coincidence that the entire Alabama team under Saban always had a brand-new Charger, right?
I also think the whole Mendoza "heisman moment" vs penn state is completely ridiculous... The only reason the game was close in the first place is because Mendoza played poorly that game.
Texas isnt penalized for losing to Ohio State. Texas is rightfully punished for losing to 4-8 Florida.
Funny how the SEC looks for excuses when they have to compete in a landscape where everyone pays the athletes.. instead of just them. Sure, it's just a magical coincidence that the entire Alabama team under Saban always had a brand-new Charger, right?
Unless worst loss is the top criteria I don’t agree.
the number 3 is killing them.
they beat Oklahoma, Vandy and Texas A&M. They would be at 2 losses with wins over two playoff teams.
head to head and same number of losses as Oklahoma - I’d rank them ahead of Oklahoma.
same number of Ls as Notre Dame and common opponent Texas A&M- them too.
They are in the playoff if they would have scheduled Oklahoma State instead of Ohio State
Agree with everything else about the SEC and Mendoza -
Texas isnt penalized for losing to Ohio State. Texas would be rightfully punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. One of multiple equivalents would be Illinois, who was supposed to be a fringe playoff team this year.. but as if by magic, both OSU and Indiana put Illinois away. Texas could not.
Funny how the SEC looks for excuses when they have to compete in a landscape where everyone pays the athletes.. instead of just them. Sure, it's a magical coincidence that the entire Alabama team under Saban always had a brand-new Charger, right?
I also think the whole Mendoza "heisman moment" vs penn state is completely ridiculous... The only reason the game was close in the first place is because Mendoza played poorly that game.
Texas isnt penalized for losing to Ohio State. Texas would be rightfully punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. One of multiple equivalents would be Illinois, who was supposed to be a fringe playoff team this year.. but as if by magic, both OSU and Indiana put Illinois away. Texas could not.
Funny how the SEC looks for excuses when they have to compete in a landscape where everyone pays the athletes.. instead of just them. Sure, it's a magical coincidence that the entire Alabama team under Saban always had a brand-new Charger, right?
I also think the whole Mendoza "heisman moment" vs penn state is completely ridiculous... The only reason the game was close in the first place is because Mendoza played poorly that game.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Ohio State lost to a 5 loss Michigan team last year before winning the Natty despite 2 losses on the record right?
Also, Mendoza didn't have his go-to WR Sarratt in that game vrs Penn State so nit-pick away.
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And sometimes as fans we wonder why many NFL rookies hit the wall midway through their 1st season. These playoffs go about 4 weeks after the Conference Championships are concluded. As soon as that's done - many of these kids play in a college all star game to catch the eyes of NFL scouts. When that's all completed many attend an intensified human performance training camp up until the NFL Combines. Following that, they have NFL workouts for interested teams. Then comes the NFL draft immediately followed by rookie mini-camps/OTAs/addtl mini-camps followed by training camp followed by the NFL season. There's really not much opportunity for a lot of rest and recuperation, which are essentials for improvements or at least maintenance in strength and conditioning. It's walks a tight rope between performance enhancement and over training.
Before I go, don't forget Joe Weider's Oxygen Intake principle - breathing. ?
Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
What I think will happen. They will end around the same time but expand the playoff but start the playoff sooner. So you will see maybe two “warmup” out of conference games Ohio State vs Ball State and Missouri State instead of 3 or 4 non conference games and then your 9 conference games essentially taking away a scheduled game and add a playoff game.
Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
Well they were actually punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. If they had beaten Ohio State in Ohio like A&M beat N. Dame in Indiana and Florida, they'd be in the CFP too. Or just beat Florida. Same result.
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Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
Well they were actually punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. If they had beaten Ohio State in Ohio like A&M beat N. Dame in Indiana and Florida, they'd be in the CFP too. Or just beat Florida. Same result.
Well they were actually punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. If they had beaten Ohio State in Ohio like A&M beat N. Dame in Indiana and Florida, they'd be in the CFP too. Or just beat Florida. Same result.
Simple question - would you object at all if A&M could beat Texas? In fact, they should have taken care of business and finished Texas themselves at home; but did they? Which one of these teams playing tonight is better than Texas?
How come Texas is getting zero credit for knocking off undefeated A&M at home?
Bottom line: none of the teams playing tonight deserve to make the CFP in lieu of Texas. Am I right or wrong?
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Yes,16 games now pushing 17 if they expand and this is without all start games that you mention hereAfter Texas gets penalized for playing Ohio State I don’t see a lot of big out of conference games being scheduled in the future.
Well they were actually punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. If they had beaten Ohio State in Ohio like A&M beat N. Dame in Indiana and Florida, they'd be in the CFP too. Or just beat Florida. Same result.
Well they were actually punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. If they had beaten Ohio State in Ohio like A&M beat N. Dame in Indiana and Florida, they'd be in the CFP too. Or just beat Florida. Same result.
Was Alabama punished for losing to Florida State the same team that lost to Florida by 19 last week?
If they have No OSU and they have Head to Head against Oklahoma and same number of defeats. And Oklahoma is comfortably in the playoff
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Well they were actually punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. If they had beaten Ohio State in Ohio like A&M beat N. Dame in Indiana and Florida, they'd be in the CFP too. Or just beat Florida. Same result.
Simple question - would you object at all if A&M could beat Texas? In fact, they should have taken care of business and finished Texas themselves at home; but did they? Which one of these teams playing tonight is better than Texas?
How come Texas is getting zero credit for knocking off undefeated A&M at home?
Bottom line: none of the teams playing tonight deserve to make the CFP in lieu of Texas. Am I right or wrong?
Simple question - would you object at all if A&M could beat Texas? In fact, they should have taken care of business and finished Texas themselves at home; but did they? Which one of these teams playing tonight is better than Texas?
How come Texas is getting zero credit for knocking off undefeated A&M at home?
Bottom line: none of the teams playing tonight deserve to make the CFP in lieu of Texas. Am I right or wrong?
Them's the rules. Ranked Conference Champs from 5 conferences before anyone else, though if they are not in the top 12 they get slots 11 & 12. They did this to allay the objections of conferences all the way around. It was suggested by them all so no conference is left out unless no one in it is ranked. For example, if Duke beats Virginia for the ACC title, no one from the ACC goes because Duke is not in the top 25, but Virginia is. Higher ranked Miami, like A&M, did not qualify for the Championship game. It's fair because all agreed ahead of time that this is how it would work and all played knowing the rules. So to Texas, suck it up buttercups.?
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Well they were actually punished for losing to 4-8 Florida. If they had beaten Ohio State in Ohio like A&M beat N. Dame in Indiana and Florida, they'd be in the CFP too. Or just beat Florida. Same result.
Was Alabama punished for losing to Florida State the same team that lost to Florida by 19 last week?
If they have No OSU and they have Head to Head against Oklahoma and same number of defeats. And Oklahoma is comfortably in the playoff
Was Alabama punished for losing to Florida State the same team that lost to Florida by 19 last week?
If they have No OSU and they have Head to Head against Oklahoma and same number of defeats. And Oklahoma is comfortably in the playoff
Actually they were because of their 10-2 record which is why they are at 9 right now. Will the CFP punish Bama for losing the Championship game? Who knows.
And for Texas if they didn't want to be left out they should have known 3 defeat teams don't get in. Like I said though, will Bama be dropped if they lose to a team they beat. Don't know.
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