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    And their names will surprise you!

    Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

    https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

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      And their names will surprise you!

      Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

      https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

      https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

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      @fy56 said:

      And their names will surprise you!

      Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

      https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

      https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

      I wonder how long it will take for the woodpecker to admit it wasn't ICE agents......

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        And their names will surprise you!

        Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

        https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

        https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

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        @fy56 said:

        And their names will surprise you!

        Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

        https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

        https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

        'The two federal immigration officers who shot and killed ICU nurse Pretti [Alex Pretti] have been identified as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez. They are both on administrative leave.'

        Source: AI Overview.

        As you point out, neither of the two organizations mentioned above are part of ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), but is what you have correctly pointed out, significant to the issue?

        (I do not have any information what you said about the officers' alleged racial views.)
         

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          @fy56 said:

          And their names will surprise you!

          Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

          https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

          https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

          'The two federal immigration officers who shot and killed ICU nurse Pretti [Alex Pretti] have been identified as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez. They are both on administrative leave.'

          Source: AI Overview.

          As you point out, neither of the two organizations mentioned above are part of ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), but is what you have correctly pointed out, significant to the issue?

          (I do not have any information what you said about the officers' alleged racial views.)
           

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          @robert333 said:

          As you point out, neither of the two organizations mentioned above are part of ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), but is what you have correctly pointed out, significant to the issue?

          (I do not have any information what you said about the officers' alleged racial views.)
           

           It’s not a significant development as it pertains to the wrongful killing.  ICE has been at the forefront of the news these days. This only brings to attention 2 false narratives…that this group are not the reckless cowboys liberals believe and the media wants to make you believe. Secondly the liberals jumping to conclusions that shooters were white supremists.

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            @fy56 said:

            And their names will surprise you!

            Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

            https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

            https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

            I wonder how long it will take for the woodpecker to admit it wasn't ICE agents......

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            @calfoxwc said:

            I wonder how long it will take for the woodpecker to admit it wasn't ICE agents......

             Harder to for Woody to swallow than a Hindu eating a hamburger.

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              Woody if you’re snooping around here, a message from a brown person directly aimed at you.

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                @fy56 said:

                And their names will surprise you!

                Raymundo Gutierrez and Jesus Ochoa…known white supremists.LOL

                https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

                https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURQliYEvfs/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

                'The two federal immigration officers who shot and killed ICU nurse Pretti [Alex Pretti] have been identified as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez. They are both on administrative leave.'

                Source: AI Overview.

                As you point out, neither of the two organizations mentioned above are part of ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), but is what you have correctly pointed out, significant to the issue?

                (I do not have any information what you said about the officers' alleged racial views.)
                 

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                IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                @robert333 said:

                As you point out, neither of the two organizations mentioned above are part of ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), but is what you have correctly pointed out, significant to the issue?

                (I do not have any information what you said about the officers' alleged racial views.)
                 

                CBP (Customs and Border Protection) and ICE are branches of the same department, DHS, Department of Homeland Security. 

                I don’t know how significant that it, but they’re essentially under the same umbrella as far as upper leadership and funding goes. 

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                  Another hilarious take and attempt at a gotcha 

                  "No! They're not pedofiles! The girls were 14-17 years old, that's not pedofilia! Stupid!"

                  Same type of response hahaha 

                  And multiple desperate attempts from Gorka begging for my response. I'd suggest a hobby

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                    Another hilarious take and attempt at a gotcha 

                    "No! They're not pedofiles! The girls were 14-17 years old, that's not pedofilia! Stupid!"

                    Same type of response hahaha 

                    And multiple desperate attempts from Gorka begging for my response. I'd suggest a hobby

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Another hilarious take and attempt at a gotcha 

                    "No! They're not pedofiles! The girls were 14-17 years old, that's not pedofilia! Stupid!"

                    Same type of response hahaha 

                    And multiple desperate attempts from Gorka begging for my response. I'd suggest a hobby

                    What the hell are you talking about? 

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                      @robert333 said:

                      As you point out, neither of the two organizations mentioned above are part of ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), but is what you have correctly pointed out, significant to the issue?

                      (I do not have any information what you said about the officers' alleged racial views.)
                       

                      CBP (Customs and Border Protection) and ICE are branches of the same department, DHS, Department of Homeland Security. 

                      I don’t know how significant that it, but they’re essentially under the same umbrella as far as upper leadership and funding goes. 

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                      @ibleedbrown said:

                      CBP (Customs and Border Protection) and ICE are branches of the same department, DHS, Department of Homeland Security. 

                      I don’t know how significant that it, but they’re essentially under the same umbrella as far as upper leadership and funding goes. 

                      Sure, everything falls under something as some branch or other, but it's not ICE which has been the main focus of the protests and the white supremacist ICE aren't even white. The protest bs kind of falls apart.

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                        @ibleedbrown said:

                        CBP (Customs and Border Protection) and ICE are branches of the same department, DHS, Department of Homeland Security. 

                        I don’t know how significant that it, but they’re essentially under the same umbrella as far as upper leadership and funding goes. 

                        Sure, everything falls under something as some branch or other, but it's not ICE which has been the main focus of the protests and the white supremacist ICE aren't even white. The protest bs kind of falls apart.

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                        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                        @jax said:

                        Sure, everything falls under something as some branch or other, but it's not ICE which has been the main focus of the protests and the white supremacist ICE aren't even white. The protest bs kind of falls apart.

                        I don’t get the impression that “white supremacy” is an overriding focus of protests against ICE or any of their neighboring agencies, though l’m sure you can provide things from the internet suggesting it is. 

                        I suspect it has more to do with their bulldozer approach sweeping through American cities with masks and tear-gas. Debating the motivations of people we don’t know isn’t a very enlightening exercise imo. 

                        We read whatever we read on it and try to surmise motivations, but all we’re doing is catching glimpses.

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                          Another hilarious take and attempt at a gotcha 

                          "No! They're not pedofiles! The girls were 14-17 years old, that's not pedofilia! Stupid!"

                          Same type of response hahaha 

                          And multiple desperate attempts from Gorka begging for my response. I'd suggest a hobby

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Another hilarious take and attempt at a gotcha 

                          "No! They're not pedofiles! The girls were 14-17 years old, that's not pedofilia! Stupid!"

                          Same type of response hahaha 

                          And multiple desperate attempts from Gorka begging for my response. I'd suggest a hobby

                          Confused as usual. So confused you’re even the wrong thread.

                          Thats right Woody,  I single you out because I know I’ve got you backed in a corner. So do you.

                          I’m still waiting for your response to this guy.

                          Pleeeease!

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                            @jax said:

                            Sure, everything falls under something as some branch or other, but it's not ICE which has been the main focus of the protests and the white supremacist ICE aren't even white. The protest bs kind of falls apart.

                            I don’t get the impression that “white supremacy” is an overriding focus of protests against ICE or any of their neighboring agencies, though l’m sure you can provide things from the internet suggesting it is. 

                            I suspect it has more to do with their bulldozer approach sweeping through American cities with masks and tear-gas. Debating the motivations of people we don’t know isn’t a very enlightening exercise imo. 

                            We read whatever we read on it and try to surmise motivations, but all we’re doing is catching glimpses.

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                            @ibleedbrown said:

                            I don’t get the impression that “white supremacy” is an overriding focus of protests against ICE or any of their neighboring agencies, though l’m sure you can provide things from the internet suggesting it is. 

                            I suspect it has more to do with their bulldozer approach sweeping through American cities with masks and tear-gas. Debating the motivations of people we don’t know isn’t a very enlightening exercise imo. 

                            We read whatever we read on it and try to surmise motivations, but all we’re doing is catching glimpses.

                            I doubt it was the bulldozer approach.

                            There were protests under Obama  being know as the “deporter in chief”.

                            So what’s the difference between then and now?

                            The common denominator is the media, and its history of circling the wagons around Obama.

                            Whomever controls the media, controls the people. Personally I don’t recall these protests being reported.

                            It is a common misconception that there were no protests. Under President Obama, who was labeled the "Deporter-in-Chief" by activists: 

                            Massive Demonstrations: In 2010, hundreds of thousands marched nationwide for immigration reform and against enforcement policies like Arizona's SB 1070.

                            Civil Disobedience: Over 100 faith leaders were arrested outside the White House in 2014 to protest record-high deportation rates.

                            Public Confrontations: Obama and Hillary Clinton were frequently heckled by immigration activists during public speeches demanding an end to deportations. 

                            Political and Media Environment

                            Media Coverage: Critics have noted that mainstream media coverage of deportations was often less intense or framed as a pursuit of "comprehensive reform" under Obama compared to the more confrontational rhetoric used in subsequent administrations. 
                             

                            Party Loyalty: Some analysts argue that because a Democratic president was in office, many traditional liberal organizations were more willing to seek change through private lobbying rather than public outcry.

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Another hilarious take and attempt at a gotcha 

                              "No! They're not pedofiles! The girls were 14-17 years old, that's not pedofilia! Stupid!"

                              Same type of response hahaha 

                              And multiple desperate attempts from Gorka begging for my response. I'd suggest a hobby

                              What the hell are you talking about? 

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                              @jax said:

                              What the hell are you talking about? 

                              If you didn't follow the analogy try reading it again, but slowly 

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                                May be an image of text that says 'BREAKING C.B.P. AGENTS WHO MURDERED ALEX PRETTI IDENTIFIED AS RAYMONDO GUTIERREZ AND JESUS OCHOA.'

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                                  @ibleedbrown said:

                                  I don’t get the impression that “white supremacy” is an overriding focus of protests against ICE or any of their neighboring agencies, though l’m sure you can provide things from the internet suggesting it is. 

                                  I suspect it has more to do with their bulldozer approach sweeping through American cities with masks and tear-gas. Debating the motivations of people we don’t know isn’t a very enlightening exercise imo. 

                                  We read whatever we read on it and try to surmise motivations, but all we’re doing is catching glimpses.

                                  I doubt it was the bulldozer approach.

                                  There were protests under Obama  being know as the “deporter in chief”.

                                  So what’s the difference between then and now?

                                  The common denominator is the media, and its history of circling the wagons around Obama.

                                  Whomever controls the media, controls the people. Personally I don’t recall these protests being reported.

                                  It is a common misconception that there were no protests. Under President Obama, who was labeled the "Deporter-in-Chief" by activists: 

                                  Massive Demonstrations: In 2010, hundreds of thousands marched nationwide for immigration reform and against enforcement policies like Arizona's SB 1070.

                                  Civil Disobedience: Over 100 faith leaders were arrested outside the White House in 2014 to protest record-high deportation rates.

                                  Public Confrontations: Obama and Hillary Clinton were frequently heckled by immigration activists during public speeches demanding an end to deportations. 

                                  Political and Media Environment

                                  Media Coverage: Critics have noted that mainstream media coverage of deportations was often less intense or framed as a pursuit of "comprehensive reform" under Obama compared to the more confrontational rhetoric used in subsequent administrations. 
                                   

                                  Party Loyalty: Some analysts argue that because a Democratic president was in office, many traditional liberal organizations were more willing to seek change through private lobbying rather than public outcry.

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                                  @fy56 said:

                                  I doubt it was the bulldozer approach.

                                  There were protests under Obama  being know as the “deporter in chief”.

                                  So what’s the difference between then and now?

                                  The common denominator is the media, and its history of circling the wagons around Obama.

                                  Whomever controls the media, controls the people. Personally I don’t recall these protests being reported.

                                  It is a common misconception that there were no protests. Under President Obama, who was labeled the "Deporter-in-Chief" by activists: 

                                  Massive Demonstrations: In 2010, hundreds of thousands marched nationwide for immigration reform and against enforcement policies like Arizona's SB 1070.

                                  Civil Disobedience: Over 100 faith leaders were arrested outside the White House in 2014 to protest record-high deportation rates.

                                  Public Confrontations: Obama and Hillary Clinton were frequently heckled by immigration activists during public speeches demanding an end to deportations. 

                                  Political and Media Environment

                                  Media Coverage: Critics have noted that mainstream media coverage of deportations was often less intense or framed as a pursuit of "comprehensive reform" under Obama compared to the more confrontational rhetoric used in subsequent administrations. 
                                   

                                  Party Loyalty: Some analysts argue that because a Democratic president was in office, many traditional liberal organizations were more willing to seek change through private lobbying rather than public outcry.

                                  Ok, so the response was similar 15 years ago but the coverage was different? That could be. I don’t really subscribe to “the media” being a consistent thing over the last several years so l might buy that. I would say right stream media has become a much bigger fish in the last 15 years and therefore left stream media is a little smaller fish. There’s only so many people watching the news.

                                  I don’t know what bearing any of that has if people were protesting the same stuff both then and now.

                                  Are you saying that if right stream media were as big then as it is now, they would have been heavily covering deportations under Obama?

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Another hilarious take and attempt at a gotcha 

                                    "No! They're not pedofiles! The girls were 14-17 years old, that's not pedofilia! Stupid!"

                                    Same type of response hahaha 

                                    And multiple desperate attempts from Gorka begging for my response. I'd suggest a hobby

                                    What the hell are you talking about? 

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                                    @jax said:

                                    What the hell are you talking about? 

                                    It's a paraphrase of Hassan Piker paraphrasing Nick Fuentes about victims of Epstein.  I'm guessing it's to suggest people that would differentiate between CPB and ICE would likely defend pedophilia. 

                                    Oddly enough, it showed up on my youtube shorts last night.  Not sure why it's been correlated here, but then again nothing surprises anymore.

                                    I'm sure in the Hassan orbit, Fuentes would be real high on the people that need to die list.

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                                      @fy56 said:

                                      I doubt it was the bulldozer approach.

                                      There were protests under Obama  being know as the “deporter in chief”.

                                      So what’s the difference between then and now?

                                      The common denominator is the media, and its history of circling the wagons around Obama.

                                      Whomever controls the media, controls the people. Personally I don’t recall these protests being reported.

                                      It is a common misconception that there were no protests. Under President Obama, who was labeled the "Deporter-in-Chief" by activists: 

                                      Massive Demonstrations: In 2010, hundreds of thousands marched nationwide for immigration reform and against enforcement policies like Arizona's SB 1070.

                                      Civil Disobedience: Over 100 faith leaders were arrested outside the White House in 2014 to protest record-high deportation rates.

                                      Public Confrontations: Obama and Hillary Clinton were frequently heckled by immigration activists during public speeches demanding an end to deportations. 

                                      Political and Media Environment

                                      Media Coverage: Critics have noted that mainstream media coverage of deportations was often less intense or framed as a pursuit of "comprehensive reform" under Obama compared to the more confrontational rhetoric used in subsequent administrations. 
                                       

                                      Party Loyalty: Some analysts argue that because a Democratic president was in office, many traditional liberal organizations were more willing to seek change through private lobbying rather than public outcry.

                                      Ok, so the response was similar 15 years ago but the coverage was different? That could be. I don’t really subscribe to “the media” being a consistent thing over the last several years so l might buy that. I would say right stream media has become a much bigger fish in the last 15 years and therefore left stream media is a little smaller fish. There’s only so many people watching the news.

                                      I don’t know what bearing any of that has if people were protesting the same stuff both then and now.

                                      Are you saying that if right stream media were as big then as it is now, they would have been heavily covering deportations under Obama?

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                                      @ibleedbrown said:

                                      Ok, so the response was similar 15 years ago but the coverage was different? That could be. I don’t really subscribe to “the media” being a consistent thing over the last several years so l might buy that. I would say right stream media has become a much bigger fish in the last 15 years and therefore left stream media is a little smaller fish. There’s only so many people watching the news.

                                      I don’t know what bearing any of that has if people were protesting the same stuff both then and now.

                                      Are you saying that if right stream media were as big then as it is now, they would have been heavily covering deportations under Obama?

                                      There was little media coverage on the protests subsequent to the mass deportations, and killings of illegals under Obama.

                                      The public response was similar, but the violence was far less. Why? Because Trump is now president.

                                      I realize that I made it sound like the media was solely responsible for the all havoc. It’s partly.

                                       Im saying that the media due to their extreme left wing bias and disdain for Trump exacerbates the problem by adding fuel to the fire. The favoritism for the thug because the ulterior motive is to make Trump and ICE look like the villain. Unlike before,  tear gas and brute force are now required to keep these violent liberal thugs under control.

                                      Here is something cute.

                                      How the media made Pretti appear more pretty in order to draw more sympathy.

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                                        @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                        May be an image of text that says 'BREAKING C.B.P. AGENTS WHO MURDERED ALEX PRETTI IDENTIFIED AS RAYMONDO GUTIERREZ AND JESUS OCHOA.'

                                        That will bruise his lil labia

                                        And they weren't ICE

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                                          Ok, so the response was similar 15 years ago but the coverage was different? That could be. I don’t really subscribe to “the media” being a consistent thing over the last several years so l might buy that. I would say right stream media has become a much bigger fish in the last 15 years and therefore left stream media is a little smaller fish. There’s only so many people watching the news.

                                          I don’t know what bearing any of that has if people were protesting the same stuff both then and now.

                                          Are you saying that if right stream media were as big then as it is now, they would have been heavily covering deportations under Obama?

                                          There was little media coverage on the protests subsequent to the mass deportations, and killings of illegals under Obama.

                                          The public response was similar, but the violence was far less. Why? Because Trump is now president.

                                          I realize that I made it sound like the media was solely responsible for the all havoc. It’s partly.

                                           Im saying that the media due to their extreme left wing bias and disdain for Trump exacerbates the problem by adding fuel to the fire. The favoritism for the thug because the ulterior motive is to make Trump and ICE look like the villain. Unlike before,  tear gas and brute force are now required to keep these violent liberal thugs under control.

                                          Here is something cute.

                                          How the media made Pretti appear more pretty in order to draw more sympathy.

                                          https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUGRahujlxu/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

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                                          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                          @fy56 said:

                                          There was little media coverage on the protests subsequent to the mass deportations, and killings of illegals under Obama.

                                          The public response was similar, but the violence was far less. Why? Because Trump is now president.

                                          I realize that I made it sound like the media was solely responsible for the all havoc. It’s partly.

                                           Im saying that the media due to their extreme left wing bias and disdain for Trump exacerbates the problem by adding fuel to the fire. The favoritism for the thug because the ulterior motive is to make Trump and ICE look like the villain. Unlike before,  tear gas and brute force are now required to keep these violent liberal thugs under control.

                                          Here is something cute.

                                          How the media made Pretti appear more pretty in order to draw more sympathy.

                                          https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUGRahujlxu/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

                                          IMG_0761.thumb.jpeg.4fe168e865ab98236b14ac65a19140c5.jpeg

                                          Well right, that’s why l asked if right stream media had been as big then as it is now, would they have been the ones heavily covering deportations under Obama?

                                          I tend to think Obama was a big motivator in the rise of right stream media. Newsmax became a cable channel in 2014. OANN was founded in 2013. 

                                          I suppose having a less egg shaped head is a plus. The technology to gussy up photos has been a media trick for a while. Even before filters and photoshop there was airbrushing. 

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