Tomlin: Some Steelers about to lose jobs
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What, did their favorite refs retire all of a sudden?
Browns will face two rookie cb's ???
Pollyfearsahaircut still have a tiny little dislocated hair follicle ???
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Tomlin: Some Steelers about to lose jobs</H1>By ALAN ROBINSON, AP Sports Writer Dec 7, 6:36 pm EST
PITTSBURGH (AP) No more motivational slogans from coach Mike Tomlin. No more talk of his Pittsburgh Steelers
redeeming themselves for past mistakes.
No more grandiose promises to unleash havoc on the NFL for the rest of the season.
Tomlin's response to the Super Bowl champions latest improbable loss and the franchise's longest losing streak since a five-game slide in 2003?
He's taking out an eraser and wiping away names.
A starter gone here, a backup moving up there. A rookie starts, a veteran goes to the bench.The Steelers traditionally don't make panicky personnel moves or bench a player because of a bad game or two. But what Tomlin calls "a pattern of behavior that's unacceptable" during a four-game slump will result in lineup changes Thursday in Cleveland.
"I assure you there are going to be some", Tomlin said Monday, calling the Steelers “a very average team and our recent record might indicate that's a kind assessment.
Rookie cornerback Joe Burnett(notes) is expected to start for the oft-beaten William Gay(notes), who sustained a concussion late in the Steelers' can-you-believe-it 27-24 loss to the Raiders on Sunday. Gay might not play in Cleveland.
Another rookie cornerback, Keenan Lewis(notes), plus defensive end Ziggy Hood and wide receiver Mike Wallace(notes), also might earn elevated status for the Browns (1-11). Wallace is expected to start if Hines Ward(notes) (hamstring) can't go, which seems likely given the short week.
We can't stay status quo in terms of how we're approaching this and expect the pattern of behavior or outcome to change, Tomlin said. That's unrealistic. That's hoping. This is not a hope business.
Tomlin, who hasn't been tested like this previously during his three seasons in Pittsburgh, stayed patient during an 18-12 loss to Cincinnati and twin overtime defeats to the Chiefs and Ravens. Losing three leads in the fourth quarter against the lowly Raiders (4-8) made him lose that, and a lot more.
Tomlin was as close to agitated as he gets in public on Monday, suggesting longevity and loyalty don’t count for nearly as much when a team is losing like the Steelers are.
Nothing stays the same in this game, Tomlin said. “Players are ascending, players are descending. People catch up with schemes, schemes evolve. Playing and coaching, this thing is ever-changing.
A defense that was easily the NFL's best a year ago squandered three leads in the final eight-plus minutes Sunday as Bruce Gradkowski(notes) became the first Raiders quarterback in 30 years to throw three TD passes in the fourth quarter. It was the fifth time in six losses the Steelers’ defense couldn't hold a lead in the fourth quarter.
Wide receiver Santonio Holmes(notes) said the party was getting ready to get started when Ward caught an 11-yard TD pass in the final two minutes that put Pittsburgh ahead 24-20, but the defense didn't hold up.
That's how we felt, knowing that the offense went down and did our job, Holmes said. We left everything to the defense. A couple of mishaps here and there, and they (the Raiders) won the ballgame.
A couple of mishaps against the Chiefs and Raiders, two teams that figured to give them little trouble, and the Steelers are 6-6 instead of being at least 8-4. No wonder Tomlin is concerned about his team's confidence, which was shaken when the special teams recently gave up four kickoff return touchdowns in five games.
You've got to acknowledge the potential this can be kind of a shaken group, Tomlin said. We've swallowed a lot. I'm going to be looking very closely at these men in terms of who legitimately is mentally tough and who can stand the test of adversity.
No matter what happens down the stretch, the Steelers are expected to undergo more changes than usual during the offseason. There could be coaching staff moves-none was made following the Super Bowl win—and more departing veterans than usual, particularly from a defense loaded with starters in their 30s.
It hasn't helped that star safety Tory Polamalu has missed seven games and most of two others with a pair of left knee injuries. The Steelers are 2-5 when he doesn't start, and he's unlikely to play in Cleveland.
I'm not going to make excuses, Tomlin said. I think we're capable of playing winning football with or without Troy. Are we different? Yes, because Troy's a unique individual. Maybe the ceiling is different but the floor, the level of expectation, is the same.
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They need to come out throwing and not stop and they can beat these guys. Don't even try running the ball.
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What, did their favorite refs retire all of a sudden?
Browns will face two rookie cb's ???
Pollyfearsahaircut still have a tiny little dislocated hair follicle ???
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Tomlin: Some Steelers about to lose jobs</H1>By ALAN ROBINSON, AP Sports Writer Dec 7, 6:36 pm EST
PITTSBURGH (AP) No more motivational slogans from coach Mike Tomlin. No more talk of his Pittsburgh Steelers
redeeming themselves for past mistakes.
No more grandiose promises to unleash havoc on the NFL for the rest of the season.
Tomlin's response to the Super Bowl champions latest improbable loss and the franchise's longest losing streak since a five-game slide in 2003?
He's taking out an eraser and wiping away names.
A starter gone here, a backup moving up there. A rookie starts, a veteran goes to the bench.The Steelers traditionally don't make panicky personnel moves or bench a player because of a bad game or two. But what Tomlin calls "a pattern of behavior that's unacceptable" during a four-game slump will result in lineup changes Thursday in Cleveland.
"I assure you there are going to be some", Tomlin said Monday, calling the Steelers “a very average team and our recent record might indicate that's a kind assessment.
Rookie cornerback Joe Burnett(notes) is expected to start for the oft-beaten William Gay(notes), who sustained a concussion late in the Steelers' can-you-believe-it 27-24 loss to the Raiders on Sunday. Gay might not play in Cleveland.
Another rookie cornerback, Keenan Lewis(notes), plus defensive end Ziggy Hood and wide receiver Mike Wallace(notes), also might earn elevated status for the Browns (1-11). Wallace is expected to start if Hines Ward(notes) (hamstring) can't go, which seems likely given the short week.
We can't stay status quo in terms of how we're approaching this and expect the pattern of behavior or outcome to change, Tomlin said. That's unrealistic. That's hoping. This is not a hope business.
Tomlin, who hasn't been tested like this previously during his three seasons in Pittsburgh, stayed patient during an 18-12 loss to Cincinnati and twin overtime defeats to the Chiefs and Ravens. Losing three leads in the fourth quarter against the lowly Raiders (4-8) made him lose that, and a lot more.
Tomlin was as close to agitated as he gets in public on Monday, suggesting longevity and loyalty don’t count for nearly as much when a team is losing like the Steelers are.
Nothing stays the same in this game, Tomlin said. “Players are ascending, players are descending. People catch up with schemes, schemes evolve. Playing and coaching, this thing is ever-changing.
A defense that was easily the NFL's best a year ago squandered three leads in the final eight-plus minutes Sunday as Bruce Gradkowski(notes) became the first Raiders quarterback in 30 years to throw three TD passes in the fourth quarter. It was the fifth time in six losses the Steelers’ defense couldn't hold a lead in the fourth quarter.
Wide receiver Santonio Holmes(notes) said the party was getting ready to get started when Ward caught an 11-yard TD pass in the final two minutes that put Pittsburgh ahead 24-20, but the defense didn't hold up.
That's how we felt, knowing that the offense went down and did our job, Holmes said. We left everything to the defense. A couple of mishaps here and there, and they (the Raiders) won the ballgame.
A couple of mishaps against the Chiefs and Raiders, two teams that figured to give them little trouble, and the Steelers are 6-6 instead of being at least 8-4. No wonder Tomlin is concerned about his team's confidence, which was shaken when the special teams recently gave up four kickoff return touchdowns in five games.
You've got to acknowledge the potential this can be kind of a shaken group, Tomlin said. We've swallowed a lot. I'm going to be looking very closely at these men in terms of who legitimately is mentally tough and who can stand the test of adversity.
No matter what happens down the stretch, the Steelers are expected to undergo more changes than usual during the offseason. There could be coaching staff moves-none was made following the Super Bowl win—and more departing veterans than usual, particularly from a defense loaded with starters in their 30s.
It hasn't helped that star safety Tory Polamalu has missed seven games and most of two others with a pair of left knee injuries. The Steelers are 2-5 when he doesn't start, and he's unlikely to play in Cleveland.
I'm not going to make excuses, Tomlin said. I think we're capable of playing winning football with or without Troy. Are we different? Yes, because Troy's a unique individual. Maybe the ceiling is different but the floor, the level of expectation, is the same.
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I think the Browns kick butt, unless
Daboll goes back to "calling plays" like he did earlier...
My hunch is, Bernie Kosar is helping him learn how to keep a defense guessing,
and be aggressive.
Somebody qualified had to talk to him...
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They need to come out throwing and not stop and they can beat these guys. Don't even try running the ball.
They need to come out throwing and not stop and they can beat these guys. Don't even try running the ball.
Lol we know that rif but daboll doesnt ,he cant do a whole drive without at some point after some success in the air ,of attemping to return to and play dabollball equaling...run ,run ,pass for 3 yards ,punt ,watch other team score...rinse and repeat....
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
They need to come out throwing and not stop and they can beat these guys. Don't even try running the ball.
Lol we know that rif but daboll doesnt ,he cant do a whole drive without at some point after some success in the air ,of attemping to return to and play dabollball equaling...run ,run ,pass for 3 yards ,punt ,watch other team score...rinse and repeat....
Lol we know that rif but daboll doesnt ,he cant do a whole drive without at some point after some success in the air ,of attemping to return to and play dabollball equaling...run ,run ,pass for 3 yards ,punt ,watch other team score...rinse and repeat....
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I hate it. Dammit, I really, really, really HATE it when
Doofus Daboll does that.
You can't keep a defense honest by being predictable.
He needs to let his offense play the game, and stop being such a wonderwuss.
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The Steelers are coming to town. Gay is most definitely going to play in Cleveland on Thursday.
But that could be any member of the Steelers team. Which gay are you referring to?
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We need aggressive play calling all game. No conservative BS. Go all out.
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They need to come out throwing and not stop and they can beat these guys. Don't even try running the ball.
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Gonna be a Shootout...and You are correct. Ready for another Detroit type game ??Well it depends on the weather.. If it is real windy with lots of snow.. its gonna be all running and no passing..
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Gonna be a Shootout...and You are correct. Ready for another Detroit type game ??Well it depends on the weather.. If it is real windy with lots of snow.. its gonna be all running and no passing..
Well it depends on the weather.. If it is real windy with lots of snow.. its gonna be all running and no passing..
Get ready for about 6 inches of partly cloudy:
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Gonna be a Shootout...and You are correct. Ready for another Detroit type game ??Well it depends on the weather.. If it is real windy with lots of snow.. its gonna be all running and no passing..
Well it depends on the weather.. If it is real windy with lots of snow.. its gonna be all running and no passing..
I still say they throw a good chunk.... but you could be right.
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Well it depends on the weather.. If it is real windy with lots of snow.. its gonna be all running and no passing..
Get ready for about 6 inches of partly cloudy:
Get ready for about 6 inches of partly cloudy:
Thursday Night: Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a low around 16. Windy, with a west wind between 25 and 32 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
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I don't care if they bench Roethlisberger Ward Holmes Gay Mendenhall and Miller their backups should beat the Browns... 96-0.
Some of you people need to wake up and stop viewing the world through Cleveland Skid Mark colored glasses.
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I don't care if they bench Roethlisberger Ward Holmes Gay Mendenhall and Miller their backups should beat the Browns... 96-0.
Some of you people need to wake up and stop viewing the world through Cleveland Skid Mark colored glasses.
Some of you people need to wake up and stop viewing the world through Cleveland Skid Mark colored glasses.
and others just need to shut up. any given sunday, my friend.
stools are in complete disarray right now, and while they're going to be ready after dropping 4, this is not the same team from years ago.
they are finally becoming tomlins team after the effects of cowher's regime is fading. they are getting worse every year, as tomlins vision of "protect the QB with skill players" like sweed, mendenhall, and wallace takes its toll on Ben; years of neglecting the OL had created a swiss cheese run-blocking line that can't get outta their own way.
and what happens to the stools D when you remove Troy? they drop 4......that D has lost all their games......4 of their last 5 losses came after holding 4th quarter leads. now with even younger DB's trying to hold down that defense, there's gonna be lots of opportunities if quinn makes the right reads.
stop solidifying the future based on past performance because you can't come up with scenarios where we actually succeed....can't see the good thats going on....or the bad thats going on in Pitt. Pitt is my home, and people are shitting their pants due to the abysmal play of their football team. we could win this game, but they're not going to hand it to us. quinn needs to step it up and take charge of the game......
side note: for god sakes, dont use harrison unless we absolutely have to......woodley will make him look like a fool.
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Some of you people need to wake up and stop viewing the world through Cleveland Skid Mark colored glasses.
and others just need to shut up. any given sunday, my friend.
stools are in complete disarray right now, and while they're going to be ready after dropping 4, this is not the same team from years ago.
they are finally becoming tomlins team after the effects of cowher's regime is fading. they are getting worse every year, as tomlins vision of "protect the QB with skill players" like sweed, mendenhall, and wallace takes its toll on Ben; years of neglecting the OL had created a swiss cheese run-blocking line that can't get outta their own way.
and what happens to the stools D when you remove Troy? they drop 4......that D has lost all their games......4 of their last 5 losses came after holding 4th quarter leads. now with even younger DB's trying to hold down that defense, there's gonna be lots of opportunities if quinn makes the right reads.
stop solidifying the future based on past performance because you can't come up with scenarios where we actually succeed....can't see the good thats going on....or the bad thats going on in Pitt. Pitt is my home, and people are shitting their pants due to the abysmal play of their football team. we could win this game, but they're not going to hand it to us. quinn needs to step it up and take charge of the game......
side note: for god sakes, dont use harrison unless we absolutely have to......woodley will make him look like a fool.
and others just need to shut up. any given sunday, my friend.
stools are in complete disarray right now
See there you go. Just like the Cleveland Skid Marks you have trouble getting anything right.
Lets look at your "stools" dig. You tried to refer to the Steelers. But you failed.
Because anyone who reads the word "stools" automatically associates it with brown, stinky things that should be flushed down the toilet. Like the Browns.
Stop failing so much. Don't be a Mangina.
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They need to come out throwing and not stop and they can beat these guys. Don't even try running the ball.
Lol we know that rif but daboll doesnt ,he cant do a whole drive without at some point after some success in the air ,of attemping to return to and play dabollball equaling...run ,run ,pass for 3 yards ,punt ,watch other team score...rinse and repeat....
Lol we know that rif but daboll doesnt ,he cant do a whole drive without at some point after some success in the air ,of attemping to return to and play dabollball equaling...run ,run ,pass for 3 yards ,punt ,watch other team score...rinse and repeat....
Thats funny. I just wish it wasn't true
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Speaking of gay, where are all the Stooler douche bag trolls now? It's just like their fans to quit on their team when they are losing.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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