@bgdabengal said: Don't let this guy fool you browns fans.. here is some of his other posts on this forum.. Now yes he has other posts saying good things about hillis, but how are you going to say that early in the season he tries to hard and fumbles in the redzone.. ...and then come back on here calling the coach stupid for not getting him DA ROCK early in the season in the redzone??? Hillis is a beast, but i also like colt mccoy.. Bengal's did a good job shutting Hillis down I think.. out of all running backs that received 10 or more carries in week 1 (monday games excluded) peyton hillis' (3.4 ypc) was ranked 21st in the league. (last year he had 4.4 ypc) If you take away Peyton's two extreme plays (17 yards and -5 yards) he was only averaging 2.7 ypc.. and the majority of those where not in "i think they're going to run it" situations. The Bengals defensive strength is there D-line and LB's.. I was not surprised at all that the 2 browns touchdowns where caught by TE's.. infact i picked up evan moore in fantasy, he looks like the real deal and vs the bengals was a no brainer.. but back to hillis, his first down percentage for the game was a 11% only 3 running backs (with 10+ carries) had a worse percentage in week 1 23 running backs had better percentages I like Hillis, but the Bengals defense was able to basically shut him down and i dont think anyone should be questioning throwing "safe" throws into one on one coverage to a guy who already beat his man (moore) and another one to the most talented player on your team (in cribbs) since it was man coverage outside im assuming the bengals were more then ready for the run. good luck in 14 of your next 15 games.. i hope you beat the ravens and steelers twice each WHO DEY!! PS: i read these forums often but when i notice obvious two facism like that i must log in and point it out lol Great first post. I too picked up Moore as my starting TE in fantasy. I think he is capable of very good things this year.

I say let Harrison do all the hard work, then give the rock to Hillis on 1st and goal and let him punch it in for a TD. I'm starting Hillis on my fantasy team tomorrow in the floater spot (my QB options are Stafford and Kolb, both of whom are badly injured). I think with Jake D. sitting out, Mangini will play things conservatively and run the ball most of the game. My Excel spreadsheet is predicting an 18-8 win for Cleveland. GO HILLIS!

I used the audio pass to listen to the Browns when I was living in Cincinnati. It was cool to be able to get the local radio station broadcast. Word of warning though - the NFL will renew the service next year automatically, so if you don't like it make sure you cancel it, haha.

@the-gipper said: Was it actually McDaniels who made this decision? Do not the Broncos have some GM or Pres. of Football Operations making most of the personell decisions? If not, they should. A basic rookie HC should NOT be making personell decisions. We learned that here from Butch Davis. So, who is running the show in Denver? Also, the best thing from the article you linked was this: The awesome CBS nugget about Colt McCoy, who is the first quarterback to make his first three career starts against three Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks: Ben Roethlisberger(notes), Drew Brees(notes) and Tom Brady. Gip, I don't know who signed off on the trade from a Denver point of view but Hillis was a One Man Gang against the Jets in '08. McDaniels has shown in his brief time in Denver that he clearly has his own opinion about player dispensibility. He couldn't get along with Cutler (and while I don't like him I can't fault Cutler for feeling slighted). He couldn't get along with Marshall. He shipped them out of town. Josh McDaniels has a little bit of that stubborn hubris that is similar to the way Rex Ryan feels about evaluating defensive players. He discarded a very good player and two draft picks for Brady Quinn who remains inactive. He then traded up in the first round to draft a project QB. I don't know what his plan is...but I think there's some 'splainin' to do....