@.mz said:Thanks for the brilliant season recap, you Ratbird Fucktard. Why was my Fcuktard censored when this Fcuktard's Fcuktard was not?

mikeyP72 said:Your a fookin idiot, 95% of Browns fans are dissatisfied with Lerner, what is even the point of your 'argument' or are you 'arguing' with yourself? I would say 99% are dissatisfied with lerner but about 50% fear lerner moving the team as opposed to selling it and remain silent of their disapproval of lerner..if lerner did sell there is always the chance of getting an equally bad owner(cant get much worse) owner and if he moved there is no gaurantee that cleveland would have the backbone to fight for colors ,history or even an expansion... But the lerners just like art modell said as he fought alone to keep al lerner from getting the franchise are not fitting owners for the browns ,or their fans...but the nfl approved him anyways...the difference in the browns owner and the ravens owner is modell picked steve bisciotti to continue and improve the traditions the greedy ass nfl approved our owner based solely on his bid and against art modells better judgement.. I no longer hold modell guilty of treason the city of cleveland betrayed art numerous times before he finally did what he said he would have to do if the city didnt build a new stadium amonst many other things the city did to prompt modell to move...the man just wanted to go to a superbowl something the city of cleveland wasnt willing to let happen...gawd i wish we had a driven owner like modell was instead of just a bussiness owner that doesnt care about the team the culture the city or the fans...

@bestplayer52 said:EXCEPT CLEVELAND REFUSED TO BUILD A STADIUM FOR THE BROWNS. THIS FROM A FOOTBALL TOWN? YOU REFUSED AND MODELL MOVED ON. HE DIDN'T WIN A SUPER BOWL TO SPITE YOU, HE DIDN'T WIN A SUPER BOWL TO SPITE US!!!! WOW ! hope you didn't bust a vein trying to push that one out So he told Sipe to throw an interception on RR88? Told the defense to let Elway DRIVE the field? And ordered Byner to FUMBLE,"Or I'll trade you to Washinngton" Nice try Einstein Don't you team steal'n pig stickers have game against New England?

suns said:Probably AP, deanglo, brees, rivers, and brady would all be bad in cleveland. Unless we would have built the OL and the DL in the first two or three years. Then, we would be in MUCH better shape here. But, we went skill positions and tried to build around that. That is a basketball approach. It doesn't work in the NFL. With that approach, you will either ruin talented players careers, or the guys you draft won't succeed until they go somewhere else. Sounds like hindsite 20/20 but it really is just commom sense that the Browns have ignored ever since returning.

I take it the unemployment levels in Baltimore is on a rise ?

The Ravens drafted and hired the right people (to draft)/(evaluators)to win on Sundays and won a Super Bowl in 2000 That is a fact! ........all the rest about the owner is Bullshit .(Are EM and GK) the right evaluators? NO

Each year it gets worse.

@bestplayer52 said:Why is he a failure since leaving New England? First of all, he was way too young to take a HC position. By young, I mean both chronological age and football experience. To make things worse, the Jets actually got off to a good start in his first year and the moniker, "Mangenius" became a yoke around his neck. He is not a motivator and he is not a teacher. The Jets quit on him last year in the midst of a playoff run. Looks like the Browns might quit on him too. I lay the blame squarely at the feet of Randy Lerner. The only help for this team is a completely new ownership team and a leader that brings respect. Lerner's old man spent 1/2 a billion dollars for a team reputed to be worth $1B at this point. A pretty good return. Get out, Randy!!!!

Heres a picture so all you whiners can tag yourself. or how about jus shutting up?

Ben would do fine in cleveland, we still wouldnt have a super bowl ring.. but we would have a few winning seasons

EXACTLY!!! They are lost because the coaching has been the worst in the league. These guys could play for a team with proper mentoring from a good QB coach. You can't blame them for these losses.