@texasag1969 said:

As to the Manziel autograph I would refer you to the guy who pestered him for one for 4 freakin' hours before finally getting a water bottle thrown his way.

I heard about that incident and thought I might be setting myself up for some ribbing even asking the question. But I think there's a difference between hounding a guy during the offseason in the middle of a golf game and a sanctioned Browns function where players often sign.

Thanks for the advice. I just have to let Jimmy punch me in the face and/or get over Novocaine'd and i'll be all set!

@unsympathetic said:

Stupid discussion. Buffalo needs a QB before Watkins has a prayer.

Wide receivers are shiny hood ornaments.

@miktoxic said:

and an OL before a franchise QB.

@tour2ma said:

... and a good HC..

@mudfly said:

Ha!.....and even with these needs, they were nice enough to give us Mike Pettine and Cam Erving.....Danka!

I definitely agree that having Watkins without a halfway decent QB in place isn't a good look. They severely overestimated EJ Manuel from Day 1. I just hope they can create an offense under this new staff that can allow one of them to have at least an average year.

But Buffalo doesn't have a need at Center - Eric Wood is solid. They needed two new Guard's, which they got in Richie Incognito and John Miller. And even without a solid QB - I think most Bills fans wouldn't trade Sammy Watkins for Justin Gilbert and Cameron Erving.

Funny to see Rex trashed and Pettine praised as well. Pettine was Rex's understudy and is known for his defense - which is Rex's defense with a little tweaking. I liked Pettine when he was in Buffalo. But i'd rather have Rex.

I don't think my team's a Super Bowl contender or anything. But I don't think they're as bad off as the above posts would seem.

@miktoxic said:

just a smarmy remark to rile up an opposing fan (besides, he's new here so gotta give him a little taste of what he's in store for). i was laughing as i typed it.

Haha I kinda gave it a raised eyebrow when I read it and thought that maybe you're a huge Manziel fan with a lot of faith.

Sammy Watkins is damn special. Unfortunately - the guys throwing him the ball aren't. I have this nagging fear that he'll get tired of ODB getting all the press and want out if they can't get a halfway decent QB by the start of next season.

But that's probably just my Buffalo fan inferiority complex talking. I hope...

Hello Browns fans!

My name's Alan and im a Buffalo Bills fan that lives in Rochester, NY - where they hold their training camp. I was also a big fan of Johnny Manziel coming out of A&M. I'll be attending one of the Bills/Browns joint practices. I'm hoping I could maybe get an autograph by Johnny Football.

I know training camp autographs are very hit or miss. But I was wondering if anyone here knew if he signed after practices last season often or at all? I'm just trying to gauge if there's even a possibility.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not. Being new I didn't want to post new threads unnecessarily. On a side note - I wanted to say that i've always felt like the Bills and Browns are sort of like cousins in a way and I always pull for you guys when they aren't playing the Bills. Good luck this season!