The only other fact I can add to that, is that sissy mason was clearly shown to be grinning big afterwards, still on the field. that means............. what? "haha, it worked to perfection? Now we don't have to have such a hard time when we play the Browns in two weeks?" I wonder. That's a fact, too. ?

I definitely wanted a team. I was just led to believe that we would be getting an NFL team.

@nero said: Happy birthday, mjp! For a year with no hospital visits! Thank you....and I'll gladly take that!!!!

Those Chiefs "great Oline" comments by Cal.... OOF.  That didn't age well. Old ass Justin Houston did work in limited snaps and they make Autry look like a pro bowler.   Frauds gonna fraud. 

Hi, Browns fans.  Cavaliers TV game announcer Fred McLeod died suddenly Monday Night, announced by the team Tuesday Morning.  RIP Fred. https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/09/fred-mcleod-tv-voice-of-the-cavaliers-has-died-at-age-67.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_McLeod_(sportscaster)

You know what really scares me?  The Titans were without TWO STARTING offensive linemen, and our "dominant defensive line" couldn't force a turnover or generate enough pressure without blitzing help.  That's ridiculous.  

@dusty said: 59 is what I watched I on.  Mine is Xfinity. 59 for me is FS1. O well. Sounds like something I didn't want to see haha

@hoorta said: We'll  see in a few hours who  stays.  My money is still on  Gillan to make  the team, for several  reasons.  Cost savings  being a  factor. If they don't  want  him holding  for FGs, not like  there isn't anyone  else  on the team that has experience  holding  for  kicks.  Finally and most importantly, you mentioned it yourself.  Jamie could be the  Browns  punter  for the  next 10 years. He's 22, Colquitt is 34. Gillian got it! 

@calfoxwc said: Lawrence just has to make the final roster. He's destined to be in the rotation, work ethic, character, team play, really tough, loves the game, and has that chip on his shoulder. Just reminds me of how Flugels talks about being not as big, but really loving the game and the fight. They really found a player for the dline with him. "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog."-Mark Twain

@tour2ma said: Everyone knows that lawyers make the worst witnesses... Possibly true....we are use to controlling the questioning.  But it is still a fact that that was a BS call. As for the game and this thread... I'm shocked no one commented on Greedy's unwillingness to tackle. Marlon Mack came his way early on and Williams dove for his ankles... head down no less. Mack barely broke stride on his way to a nice gain, however, a worm suffered a season ending injury. Mitchell looks like the better CB opposite Ward to me. He's simply more complete. I'd use Greedy as the nickle although not necessarily as the slot cover. But on other plays he made so hard, tough nosed tackles...which we were all told he was unwilling to do.  So, with him it is perhaps a 50/50 deal on tackling Our OTs are not PassPro pros... but they are road-graders and that just may be enough combined with Bake's quick decisions to work. Comments were made about Hubbard (mental errors leading to penalties), but it was a Robinson brain-fart of epic proportions that almost got Gilbert killed. Greg had outside help in the form of a RB chip and yet allowed himself to be beaten cleanly inside by one of Indy's young DEs. That's Erving level stuff just can't happen. Our OL may be our weak link this year, yes. Higgins continues to impress me. Seems to "chemistry" with whomever is slingin' the rock.The kid has arrived. it would not shock me if he ended up leading our WR room in yardage in 2019. Loved seeing a real FB in a Browns uni blowing up LBs and DBs in the hole again. Kerridge may be a luxury we can't afford in the 53. Hopefully he adds enough value to STs to stick. Thanks for providing an opinion on him...where some refused to do so when requested. Still reserving opinion on the D. This week's 3rd Preseason game should yield much better data. On Stanton... As I've posted before I believe Dorsey and company like him in the QB room with Baker... and Baker likes him there, too. That's enough to punch his ticket to the 53 even with Gilbert likely earning the #2 opening day. That doesn't mean that Stanton isn't the opening day backup, but... as I've also posted before... for a short-term stint as starter should Baker get nicked I can see Stanton. However, should Baker have to sit for any length on time I see Gilbert with his superior arm and legs getting the starts. If I am right then someone will dig up the old QB jersey.... Well...this brings up, again, the whole stupid "inactive status" issue.  That should be abolished.  NFL teams have a 53 man roster. ALL of them should be available to play...and particularly 3 QBs.

of the first game of Greedy and Mack

@unsympathetic said: Anyone who knows more about NFL QB play.. Is  of Jones? I'll bite.. Some is Ok analysis. Am stuck watching a lot of Acc ball due to lo-cal. Daniel Jones would be a big mistake seeing the field this season..Imho Game Speed..Duke had zero game speed NFL receivers that Jones ever saw. His senior bowl game like Baker's made many believers.(including myself) Jones OL was young & still at Duke .He was accurate in a WR's ball catching radius. But at times, when the throw called for high & outside right shoulder, he's simply not there yet as Baker's draft status. He does have one good thing working for him. His anticipation getting the ball to a spot with WR backs still turned in route is solid. Sterling Shepard should add up the yards once Jones gets to see the field..I do hope the giants Don't ruin this guy like Hue did with Kizer..Jones also does have good touch on ball to back of endzone..Kizer had zip,zero,none.. Sure Gettleman reached on D.Jones draft slot on a just average QB draft class. Would not surprise no one if Dorsey also told Gettleman "if DJ fits your QB of future? You take him with your 1st pick not your 2nd pick"   

Stupid ass law.

@gumby73 said: sadly, is what comes next.. https://cdn.dailycaller.com/2018/11/12/josh-gordon-child-support-case-pushed-back/   stay tuned Roger..    Sell ring to make child support... It could happen...  @canton-mike said: Gordon is gone, so who really gives a damn about him? What I do hope is that he can become man enough to support that baby. Frankly, I have my doubts. Mike Why do people slow down to look at car wrecks Mike?   

@gumby73 said:  play is at 1:53 in 2nd quarter,3rd & goal. 1 bad call should not dictate games, but How does the 2nd half play out then? Not found a good angle on referee placements or who's is blowing the whistle'S. maybe 3 multi-pal whistles seem to be blowing play dead before ball hits the ground after fumble. clearly does not break plane & all scoring plays & turnovers were reviewable..Multi Refs solidly choked blowing play dead.. How does this happen TWICE to us on defensive TD plays? Why blow it dead? Makes no freaking sense and it's infuriating.  I tell ya, on our last drive we had Duke Johnson on the left side for that wheel/flare pass we do when Baker loops it over top for 10-15 yards. Baker didn't look left because he wasn't going to have time to check both directions, and it hurt that he looked right. We knew a blitz was coming, and there was no way the backer could blitz and cover Duke. I really wanted us to get Duke the ball during that set of downs, and when you watch the 3rd down, you see Duke's guy rush the QB, try and hold Duke because he sees him run past, but Duke would've been open if Baker decided to throw it left. Probably just bad luck because Baker had to pick a side. It doesn't matter now of course, but go back and watch our last 3rd down. Duke is in the backfield, shoots out left (gets held a little), but is open...so open. *sigh* ?

@londonbrown said: Ha yeah same for me, I love my 6pm Sunday Browns ritual of beer, food and gamepass. 6pm sounds even better than 7pm!

everytime the showed jimmy on camera he all ways had the look of being constipated 

@dutch-oven said: The 30+ pages of him going on about Saquon this last offseason was impressive, but nothing in my humble opinion will beat his single man Kevin Hogan fan club.  lol... certainly Hogan creates a much wider gap between fanaticism and on-field performance.

@londonbrown said: There’s a European wide competition for the teams that finish high up in their domestic leagues.  Is that sort of a Super Super Bowl?  You win the Championship of your league then go on to a tournament for an all Europe title or something? Didn’t really see much of the place apart from the pubs but that’s the English for you  And you wonder why you lost the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.

@the-gipper said: Curious as to why the Houston/Cleveland game is being broadcast in Minnesota. Also....I don't have to worry about where the Browns are televised, I will be in the stadium. Ditto, and I racked the game on my DVR.  If you look at that map- it's the sad reason I have to pay Directv an extra $300 a year, because the stinking Bengals getting preference in Dayton.