Second year player and a rookie, while physically talented, can be prone to mental errors. We've seen it already, so considering who the browns are facing this week, I'm not surprised fans can't see that eye discipline and vet savy are gonna be more pertinent than physical ability here. 

@sdbacker80 said:

We need to challenge a few more passes this week. Soft cushion won’t work again. 

Let's not pretend like Ward and greedy were playing shutdown ball.

TJ and Mitch are probably the better tandem for this game anyway, eye discipline and vet savy is gonna be needed 

If Myles gets 3 sacks, browns likely lose. It means he is getting sucked up and they likely have up 4-6 big plays when he didn't get home. 

Wilks is smarter than that, and will pressure the middle to keep contain.

Jarvis cleared protocol per MKC

kinda was hoping verret would play XD

@jiggins7919 said:

the ball is out. It's really quick.  

yup...i see a similar gameplan as used on the rats, with some tweeks. if the DE's crash, the D is in for a long day. the play action in shanny's O is dangerous, and probably whats going to be the browns downfall. however, if they play disciplined and dont get sucked up on the fake, the speed on browns D will limit the YAC.

HAD interest...in March. and didn't sign him.

Golic was referring to this...and itss a common mistake the media, and thus fans, make.

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2019/10/01/eric-berry-signing-could-make-browns-defense-elite/

its a speculation article...nothing more.  

"Rumors" in July

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2825441-browns-trade-rumors-eric-berry-targeted-after-odell-beckham-jr-move

Here's when Dorsey actually had interest...

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827827-browns-news-safeties-eric-berry-tre-boston-drawing-interest-from-john-dorsey

These national guys report rumor like they are facts, and too many people yuk it up without vetting the news. 

IF Dorsey wanted berry, he would have been signed when burnett went down. Dorsey stuck with his guys, who played admirably. he didn't panic, and was proven right, at least in this case.  i guess my point is that Golic was filling airtime with an article he didnn't vet, and he's 2 weeks late for when a story like that would get traction. 

pedigree alone aint gonna cut it...the concern is can he even run anymore.

who have we beat? jets and rats...and the rats were paper tigers. SF is the first team we will face with legitimate talent across the board. 

the story here is Wilks vs lil shanny.  thats the chess match to watch. i doubt Myles even has a sack this game, cause shanny isn't going anywhere near him with a rookie LT. Larry O should have a big game tho

@the-gipper said:

But....you did not answer my question....would he nevertheless be an upgrade over our last benchwarming DB?

no, he wouldn't. because that last "benchwarming DB" is currently playing, and playing well. Berry played 3 games of the last 32...lost 15 games due to ruptured Achilles, then another 14 games from bones spurs.

what do you think Berry adds that the browns currently do not have? 

6 is the limit...browns currently have 5.  seen tweets this isn't gonna happen because they may want a browns game late in the year with possible playoff implications.

Not so sure about that...point was more that TJ and ET reputation overshadows their actual play. Theyve been good at times, and bad at times. Jefferson has flat out sucked vs the browns...thrown at 16 times, 13 completions and 3 TDs.  Thomas looks old and slow. I wouldn't trade either of them for our backups at this point. Berry now won't be the berry of the past...it's simply name chasing

Name chasing...berry is 30, with quite the injury history. Quite a few teams need safety help (cough Steelers), seems strange he's still unemployed, no? Whitehead and Murray have done a damn good job filling in...but now we're looking at berry after declining to sign him in March?

Golic just didn't read the date on the story he was referencing

Look no further than Tony Jefferson and Earl Thomas to learn this lesson

@hoorta said:

Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.    

funny thing about that...that player is LJ Fort XD 

since he was cut, his salary (5.1m iirc) is no longer included in the comp pick calc because he was cut prior to week 10.  previous, they lost 3 signed 2.  since Fort no longer counts, it 2 lost 2 signed.  no comp pick.  however, all they have to do is cut moncrief before week 10 to restore the 3rd round comp pick.

@tour2ma said:

Joe Staley is a quality LT.

believe he's out with a broken leg? rookie 6th rounder playing in his place...

the fitz trade was a good idea...edmunds and davis have been just short of horrible, and given Colberts failure to draft a decent DB anywhere, getting a sure thing for that first pick just ensure he doesnt fuck it up again. solid front 7 (bush has been iffy thus far) will give teams something to think about, but they're not a dominate line anymore that can wreck any OL.  offensively, there is nothing that to really worry about.  JuJu has been pedestrian, washington and johnson are young. samuels is a versatile guy and looks like a good player...cant for the life of me see why connor is still starting.  

they match up well physically with the rats...but the rats are much better coached team than the kitties. game can go wither way...  

This thread isn't aging well. Pharoah brown played a great game

@medicineman said:

I really hate living where I do because I live close to Pittsburgh. I just heard on the radio how Baltimore was the favorite to win the North but seeing how they lost to Cleveland and watching how good the Steelers played against the Bengals, the Steelers should be everybodys favorite to win the North. Why is it after every time they win a game they believe they are going to the SB yet right after they lose a game they want to fire everybody. I fucking hate that entire fan base, my gf and her parents are Steeler fans so ya fuck them to (During football season) But they are not like most fans but they are still blind to the fact the NFL hates Cleveland 

just laugh my man...the delusions of grandeur will make the inevitable fall that much greater.   

@icecube said:

Yea, well, when a QB admits he "wasn't fired up" to play 3 games, it's something to consider. 

actually, thats the narrative you just created. and it took some mental gymnastics to arrive there. nice to know your opinions have basically nothing of value, so i dont have to waste anymore time on you.