The only talking you out of Baker is if you want to lose. Honeslty after seeing last night it was crystal clear he should have opened the season as the starter. The difference with him in control was shocking. 

^ oh yeah....i just found it amusing that he seemingly doesn't see how he was in the same exact position. only difference, tebow won. you'd figure his decent to irrelevance would be more humbling.

@badnewsbrowns said: The Fat Cat Walrus I didn't know he smoked. It seems incongruous that a guy associated with sports these days would smoke.

@jnuh said: I absolutely loved Greg Little before we drafted him. And I am still a huge fan despite a case of the dropsies this year. I thought he was one of the top 3 WRs coming out in last years draft. I even went back and fourth with him and Jones being the second best behind Green was the runaway at the position. I still think he could be better then Jones. With all that being said though ... In what world did Little have practically as productive of a year?? Jones had 250 more yards in 3 less games. Plus at the Pace Jones put up when he wasn't injured he would have ended with close to 500 more yards. 8TDs to 2TDs. And 5 100 yard games to 1. Jones also averaged 16.8 yards per reception compared to Littles 11.6. I am not crowning Jones the better WR yet because it generally takes a couple of years to see what you really have in a WR, but the numbers definitly scream in Jones favor. Up to like the last game or two of the season, it was not all that much difference between Little and Jones. I think Jones had 4-5 of his TD passes in the last two games....plus that is when he widened the gap in yards. And who did the Falcons play in their last two games....I bet it was not teams with defenses the caliber of the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers. No. It was the Saints and the Buccaneers.

@choco said: Here's to retirement.... Cheers! I am hoping so. I hate seeing a legend like this leave but he is constantly catching colds, being hurt, etc etc. Now just sits in the press box all game. Poster is right, there will never be another one. To do what he has done from an academic, athletic and honorable level is an accomplishment in this day and age of cheaters and scandals and the related.

OK, so here is a bit of irony that I just discovered: When Leftwich signed his FA contract with the Bucs, the Steelers were awarded a compensatory pick in the 7th round of this year's draft: #242 overall. This was not TBs own 7th round pick. They still have that at position #217. So, now, the Steelers come back to the Bucs and say, we will give you the #242 pick that we got for losing Leftwich to you to give him back to us. Tampa says no, we want your regular 7th round pick, #225 for Leftwich. The Steelers give in and agree to it. So, basically the Bucs gave up nothing for him, get a year's use out of him. The Steelers get an older, wearier Leftwich and give up their #225 pick. Tampa now has their own #217 and the #225 pick for a guy they may have released in training camp!

@choco said:This place really is better off What did Stan do? WSS

Anquan Boldin's talent would make this an insanely great deal. Unfortunately, I think his antics in Arizona severly limit his chances of playing in Cleveland. I would love to have him, he would greatly improve our WR corps. But I honestly don't think that Mangini and Co. will give him the time of day. Which is a shame, because he's definitely proved to be a workhorse. Personally, I think what he did in Arizona is no worse than what Cribbs has been doing here in Cleveland. The cases are pretty similar, except Cribbs had a much larger impact on the team, therefore deserved a bigger contract. Whereas Boldin, on the other hand, is expendable to Arizona.

The Donkeys just beat the Bungels. That means if we beat the Donkeys we are back on track for the SuperBowl. @choco said:i only ask that after next week, when denver gets pounded by this team, no talking about a superbowl run.....or how great quinn is......or that JT was really a better pick than peterson.... its football, they play 16 games. this team will get better, so try to keep both the good and bad in perspective for a few weeks, and remember that we turned over another roster. theres alot of football left. try to enjoy some of it...

we also have to spy the rook from fla....he's no slouch

Buy your wood burning furnaces now. You can even get ones that burn corn. Get off the grid, or... be warm when the grid is shut down. The Amish may have had the right idea all along, as far as being independent of technology as much as possible.