I have friends like josh. U wanna believe there excuses but after so many times the only way they'll change is let them hit rock bottom. Stop helping him and hope he helps himself

Yea let's change our defensive scheme based on who's available in free agency. Good god that sounds like a brilliant idea.

George C said:

How has the rage to fire a smart coach over the years been Workin for ha?

I'm telling you what I think this guys priorities are. Blitz, blitz, blitz when he has the right people. To blitz, you need man corners you can trust.He likes his strength to be their DBs. He has one shut down corner. If he doesn't think Gilbert will develop, expect another next year. Remember it's just my opinion, but his recipe is the same as Rex Ryan.

When he has the right players, look the fuck out on defense.

I would trust him, and calling for his job just cuts your nuts off for the umpteenth time.

If you don't want him, he will have a job 15 minutes later.

i dont think its he doesnt trust his corners. i think he dont trust the pass rush. it dont matter how good urcorners are if the qb has all day in the pocket...

@tml1138 said:

I say may the Bengals win...if I'm doing my playoff math correctly! Steelers I think will beat the Falcons at Atlanta, and also win at home vs Bengals. The best chance for a loss is at when they are at home vs Chiefs. So lose another next week to give Browns a solid lead.

You forgot week 16 Broncos @ Bengals, BTW. Which they will lose there and better lose to the Browns. With their third loss in Pittsburgh, Browns have the lead.

As for Ravens. Split a W/L vs Dolphins and Texans, W vs Jaguars, L vs Browns. Browns lead the division.

How to the Browns do? In a perfect world they go 4-0 from here on out. In reality, let's say a loss to the 8-4 Luck-led Colts, and the W's for the last three.

This would put the final AFCN standings at:

Browns 10-6

Bengals 9-6-1

Ravens 9-7

Steelers 9-7

our luck we need cincy to lose to make playoffs and denver rests there starters for the playoffs

George C said:

Jerry Hughes is an interesting story.

Sometimes, you luck out..

In 2010, our GM chose a bust by the name of Kelvin Sheppard in the 2nd. Fucker couldn't run from sideline to sideline to save his life.

The Colts 1st round BUST from that year was a guy names Jerry Hughes. Neither player lived up to anything close to the billing.

Last year, our GM decided to call the Colts to inquire about a trade. Both teams who gave up on their player decided to do an even swap.

Kelvin Sheppard remains a BUST, and Jerry Hughes woke the FUCK up under DC Mike Pettine.

The problem we have now is signing Marcel Darius and Jerry Hughes to huge deals in the offseason this year.

We have to keep both..

i'd be weary of a guy that suddenly wakes up in a contract year. there prone to go back to sleep once they get paid....but then again maybe he didnt fit indys scheme.

whats so bad about what johnny does off the field. certainly no worse than what josh gordan has done, and u guys are all over his nutsacks.

a tee shouldnt make that much of a difference. it props the ball up maybe 2 inches. i dont see how that can make u kick it 30 more yards

i dont understand how u can kick it out of the endzone from the opposite 35 on kickoffs but cant make it to the goalposts kicking a 55 yarder

ManzielSucks said:

TD against second string defense that was in at the time.

he came in 12 mins left in 4th quarter, that wasnt second string or prevent. it was same dfense hoyer seen the previous drive... and the browns being down let the bills pinthere ears back and all out rush the qb, makng his job actually harder...you guys that have blind loyalty to hoyer or manziel make this board unreadable at times...

arizona, ucla and unc have stud mlb i'd loce to have on the browns. not sure which are draft eligible....wr jalen strong from arizona looks like a top 15 pick. natural ball catcher with out of this worl athletic ability, speed and size

i caught on the radio that fred jackson is running his mouth that he has no respect for dontae whitner because of something he tweeted over the summer......anybody no what was said between the two"

what exactly did the coaches do wrong?

give me the cowbows left tackle in exchange for mitchell schwartz

we draft undersized smart technicaly sound white guys. pitt drafts big strong physically imposing guys. bitonio is the first road grader we've drafted since? we get another mauler at the rg spot next draft and alex back.will be unstopable

i dont see what was wrong with playcalling...there are no good plays when ur bigs are getting dominated

cameron gets a concussion he's out 3 weeks or more. gibson gets one and he plays the next game......there is no way he should get top dollar this off season. he's to injury prone and he doesnt block well. the tight end position in general in the nfl is injury prone due to the nature of the position. i'd rather sign two guys like heath miller an owen daniels. than just one guy like cameron for top dollar

anybody see justin gilbert on defense today??? thought he played well past few weeks, wonder why he didnt get playing time today

u went to the wrong hotel? or just the wrong room? if it was the wrong hotel u mut've took miktoxic's advice an visited the eastside for some crack...lol

did justin gilbert play today, i dont recall hearing his name or see him in on any plays?

make him earn playing time by returning punts