@osiris said:What about the people who both pay for the free stuff and get free stuff? And sometimes things as complex as a nation's society are too complex to be put simply. Makes a nice bumper sticker, though. It is just about making a nice slogan haha.

@browns149 said:The NFL hasn't figured out the reason fans don't like preseason games is you're forced to pay full freight to watch an exhibition game. that's crazy, i did not know that. last time i went to a pre-season game was at the old giants stadium when the browns came in. they were on the cuff so i didn't even look at the ticket (even the i kept the stub and is in one of my overfilled boxes of shite in storage). i would at least think the tickets would be half-price. they can always make up money with the concessions.

@canton-mike said: Yeah, getting out of lot 20 is slow. We tailgate in lot 20 for all the home games. After the games, we BS, share beer with our neighbors, wait for the traffic to subside somewhat, & the designated driver takes it from there. If we didn't tailgate, I would also use the RTA. For just getting to (and leaving) Browns' games, it can't be beat. Prior to my getting Season Tickets & tailgating, that was the way to go. Mike Leaving is slow about anywhere you park right after a game. @poeticg said:Hah! I'm from Phoenix Az. I'm accustomed to traffic but seriously, when you have an Indians game going on or about to start and also a Browns game and Cavs stuff all going on at the same time and traffic is pretty much stopped at the freeway... trying to funnel 60,000 people into the stadium when they can only get there from one direction down two lanes wrought with one ways... really, it's a traffic jam of epic proportions. That's why you Tailgate PG. Get down to your favorite Lot by 10AM or so, and no traffic problems whatsoever. That doesn't hold for the Muni Lot which fills up way before that.

Zombo said: MIke & Mike ripped on Jimmy this morning with Greenie amazed that the owner is asking the Browns for "patience" after firing his first coach after 11 months when he had to start three different QBs. Zombo Hmmm, ya know Z, I never thought of it that way before until you pointed it out- pretty ironic.

@skycomesfirst said: First of all, I accept the apologies from all those in charge. Mingo's injury doesn't bother me so much as his being too small to play DE and not being a step slower than the top LBs. I hink he will be another Courtney Brown, and see him getting run over. Almost.