@dutch-oven said: An argument can be made that a healthy Herbert is better than a healthy Baker.  For whatever reason my mind randomly came back to this post last night.  I was attempting to understand ways to convey Herbert's improvement as a passer and that he should be taken more seriously; while also expressing concern for Baker and hoping he improves from season 1 to season 2 in Stefs offense.  Then I realized I can do an apples to apples breakdown of a connected throw for a TD vs Baker missing the TD on similar offensive designs working against similar defensive designs.  I'm just posting this now as a reminder to myself to get busy on this when I'm done with my day.     Appreciate the reminder.

@eastsidedawg said: the problem is hooper and bryant cant and dont make the contested catches that Njoku does. Bryant was a rookie; so this year should give us more of a tell-all on that.  I was more concerned about his fumbling/ball security after the catch.  I'm hoping the year under his belt improves that. It'll be interesting to see what kind of productivity we get out of the TE position this year.   I thought the best year Njoku gave us was when Baker took over a winless team (0-1-1) that was also coming off an 0-16 season.  After Baker erased the lead by the NY Jets - he went on the break the rookie record for TD passes with 27 in just 13 starts (and Njoku made some valuable contributions to that). He had 56 receptions, 639 yards and 4 TDs (2018).  The next year he had 5 receptions and last year he had 10 receptions. 

     fully locked into the 2021 season starting with Chiefs ... but, This did happen... Myles Garrett/ Nick Chubb got paid...  Earned! Baker/ Ward should get paid within the top 10 of their position played.. Browns WR1/WR2/JJ3/Hill/Hunt & most our core players including OL are under contract until the 2023* season..  17 games of 2021 yet to be played.. Lot's can happen...Our mostly rental defense/with talented mixed utes ?.. has to prove it's worth along with Wyatt Teller's.. no harm done here yet.. Enjoy the 2021 season ! Berry & Depo seem fairly sharp with pencils with erasers... Go Browns !