@ytownbrownsbacker said:

And you're some kind of big time "insider" who knows all this scoop. And, knows exactly what happened because you wee there. And Mangini told you he knew it was going on in NE but said nothing. and you know Mangini didn't tell Belichick if he did it against the Jets he would turn him in.

It is our humble pleassure to have you on our site. I know that everything you are telling us is absolute truth, because you were there.

Or is it that you read what some other douchebag posts and believes it is gospel. LOL

You and your troll buddies are a joke.

Ha Ha kc gets pioli and you get mangini

@plumcrazy73 said:

So what you were saying is that you would have had no problem with Mangini keeping quiet, even if it would have meant that the Jets would have lost because of the spying, bet you would felt different if he had kept quiet, you got beat, and then the aligations came out and aligations that Mangini knew that it was going on but said nothing out of respect for his former boss.

He did what he felt was best, to give his current team the best edge he could.

Let him be a man about it and tell belichick if he does it then he will report it to the league, but I guess mangini was okay with it when he was def cord for the pats. he did not think anything was wrong with it when it benfitted him and got him a head coaching position. Real stand up type of guy. But jets job was too much for him and he was run out of town in two years the browns will be doing the same.

AdaM said:

Pioli will not leave the patriots. Your argument is invalid.

Looks like he will be the kc gm, looks like my point was correct that the browns screwed up again

@earle said:

Im playing the smallest violin in the world for you. Loser!

Ha HA, but i don't follow a team that hires a horrible coach before it finds a gm. He was such a great coach and motivator that the browns were the only team to contact him about an interview and signed him to a 4 year contract. i call that a panic move. The best plan of action was to get pioli in there and let him take control of the operation and pick his coach. Any gm worth a grain of salt will not take this job, it will have to be a friend of mangini. I rather a smart gm then one that will be picked because he is friends with the coach. But again the browns ownership has shown to be act first and think later organization.

@pjt1 said:

Dude.....I'm a life long Jets fan and let me tell you, Mangini had not as much to do with your Pro Bowl idea as you think.

1st off Faneca (going to Bowl) and D. Woody revamped our OF line for Jones (going to Bowl).

2nd off Favres presence made other teams respect our passing game, something new compared to when teams all but knew our playbook with Pennington under center, which helps our line and Jones.

3rd. Our FO signed a beast in Jenkins (going to Bowl) to stuff the middle.

Washington (going to Bowl) was helped by his returns as usuall and by Favre and the OF line.

Revis (going to Bowl) has been strong since our FO drafted him.

Finally, Mangold (going to Bowl) deserves so as well, as he took care of the middle all season.

While I disagree with Favre going, his presence alone opened up our offense, AND ALL THESE PIECES WERE PART OF OUR FRONT OFFICE'S DECISIONS. MANGINA SU**S, MIKE TANNENBAUM DESRVES THE CREDIT. MANGINI LOST THE JETS TEAM AND THEY GAVE UP. HE MADE NO IN GAME CHANGES. HIS DEFENSE LACKED ANY SORT OF PASS RUSH. HE COULD NOT DICIPLINE A QB IN FAVRE. HE HAS NO FIRE DURING GAME TIME. HE'S AT BEST A DC, AND WHO EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THAT, AS THATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW BEST, DF! WHAT KIND OF COACH DOES NOT DICIPLINE A QB THROWING SO MANY INT'S? Give me a break, Im glad he's gone. Let Cleveland deal with his BS gameplanning now.

I agree with you 100%, Mangini coached some of the worst games this year I have ever seen. Great coaches never loose palyers like mangini did this year. He had nothing to do with the scouting and the draft, he gave his opinion but it was largely bradshaw and tannenbaum responibility. Also just a side note from what I saw for 3 years he is no belichick

Steeler SChuck said:

Belichick is a moron.

I never understood the slurp-fest with this guy, how can you be a bad coach with Tom Brady on your team? Spygate should give everyone an idea on what this guy had to do to win games.

Regards

.... an'at

I guess he was a real bust this year without his star QB and still going 11-5 with the late round draft pick matt cassal who never stated a college game.e]

@earl34 said:

Same problem you had the year before. Poor QB play and crappy fans.

The qb the previous year look pretty good in Miami this year , I guess he had better coaching

@azbrowns said:

Soemtimes its about what you have.

your team compiled a ton of sacks, while the Browns werre second to last with 17. Look at the talent in the linebacker corps. The Jets LB's are far from impressive yet they were able to apply pressure to the QB.

Now, the Browns with the second lowest sack total in the league yet were second in the entire NFL in INT's.

Mangini is CLEARLY a much better head coach than RAC and considering he is almost half RAC's age, it's safe to think that he could only improve as a coach.

And no one wants to hear the "We had him and fired him, so what's that say about you guys" argument. Bill Belichick and Marty Schottenheimer are both ex-Browns coaches and both have had success elsewhere after their stint in Cleveland.

Belichick won super bowls as a dc and ms has never one a big game in his life. I will say this, that the browns will regret this decsion and not sure if better then rc. never won a playoff game

@dtbh said:

Favre ruined that, not Mangini.

what was the excuse the previous year

@brownb499 said:

So what your saying as a Jets fan is that as long as he was coaching the Jets and beating the Pats it you were alright with him being a rat?

Always thought he was a horrible coach and had no respect after the spy gate. He was part of that organization knew it was going on, accepted a job and then tried to stick it to the organization that was responible for him getting a new job. Lets just say I wouldn't want him watching my back. Just go to the Jets board and see what they think of this choice. Good luck brown fans you will need it.

@earl34 said:

Yeah but you're a Jets fan for life...

Thats right I am but the browns just hired a coach fired by the jets. What does that say about the browns. All the money the jets spend this year and mangini still could not make the playoffs.

Ha Ha Ha Ha another 5 years of gloom for you browns fans, don' say you have not been warned.

@pumpkin-eater said:

all excellent points. very well said. There is nothing to counteract your argument.

He got the jets job because of the cheating pats record. Then all of a sudden he has a change of heart. more respect if he left pats organization and spilled the beans and then tried to get a job.

@flugel said:

That's true, he did a GREAT job of bringing the empire to an end. Any SB Ws since then in NE? Any playoffs this year? Great job Mangini! No wonder why NE hates that guy! We need a basterd like that who makes people nervous. They wouldn't shit their pants unless they had reason to.

- Tom F.

As a jet fan, I watched this team this year and with all the money we put into the offensive line this team was playoff caliber but with the bizarre coaching decisions by mangini he cost the team a playoff spot. Just look at the seattle game. If I was a brown fan, I would do anything to get pioli and let him pick his coach. You don't want Mangini, he also never was a d-cord for the pats during there super bowl years.