@clevelandbigdawg said:because they didnt like him, and they werent going to end up re-signing him, and he had a big contract, and you dont want a mid-round rookie starting TE for you, especially with a young QB. Remember Pettigrew may not be ready to play in the beginning of the year. Exactly. Schwartz is one heck of a coach, especially on defense. He knows what he wants on defense, and Sims evidentially wasn't part of the vision.

@supersteelers said:Yea, Sipe was special....Red Right 88 More special than #7 is for you right now....Sexual Assault

What about Mack? Have to say he's safe.

Voted in NFL.com's Top 10 FA busts of all time - pass.

CJ Spiller

@jrex223 said:I was anti-Holmgren when he left Green Bay in a hissy-fit, and he could have done better in Seattle, but he certainly would be a major upgrade of anything we've had here. ---What exactly made you anti-holmgren?... the Superbowls he led both teams to?... JRex- I thought he and the Pack were good for the NFL when they were chasing the dream of winning a Superbowl. Once they acheived the dream, they (Holmgren, Farve, even Desmond Howard) got too big for their britches and thought they were larger than the game itself. Holmgren found out when he went to Seattle that it really is hard to do everything by yourself. He had no Farve, no Reggie White, no Ron Wolf. It just isn't that easy, as we Browns fans know. I would hope that if Holmgren is hired here, he uses the tough lessons he's learned, and delegates some power. The guy has shown he can coach, but being GM is a new ballgame. Is he patient enough to get it done? As far as Cowher goes, I wouldn't think he'd ever come here. I think he has too much respect for the Rooneys.

The important thing is that the new person in charge of football operations would bring in his GM and they would evaluate Mangini and his "PROCESS" at the end of the season and go from there. There would be an organization of knowledgable football personnel and not a coach doing as his feels and being the talking head. It would also allow Randy to be the absentee owner that he wants to be. My son has just started working for an on line pro football publication and has talked to a couple of his contacts left from when he did an internship with the Browns. They would not confirm the names but noted that is the process that Lerner wants to develop. A VP of football operations simular to Parcel and have him be the mouth piece, make the decisions and run the show. I would think most of the above mentioned people would have to think very hard about keeping Mangini at the end of the season.