@flugel said:

Believe it or not, I listed him 1st on my list of Flugel's Favorite Untalked about Fellers.  How about these eye popping numbers in 2024:

13 games 117 rec 1555 yards 10 TD

I also listed the QB that's an inch taller than Russell Wilson was on draft day and 2 inches taller than Tom Thumb.  Regardless of the bandwagon chomping at the bits to height snob him - his experience volume, success in 3 different programs and punctuation of it all going undefeated in the Big 10 plus winning the Conference Championship reflects a guy that deserves a shot IMO... If height was an issue - I think I'd see more INTs than I do below.

Fanin’s going to be really good for us and I don’t think Gabriel’s height will hurt him much either. I hope he does well. 

@dutch-oven said:

Watching Sports Center now and ex-Jets GM Mike Tannebaum is talking about Sanders, and he says that on the field he's a first round talent "but he must have turned people off with his interviews which is weird because other guys like Baker Mayfield and Johnny Manziel had interviews that came off bad and they still got drafted in the first round..." 

?

Tannebaum also said after this that the Browns are having the best draft so far, with them "adding three immediate starters in Graham, Schwesinger and Judkins" and the fact that they now have Jacksonville's first round pick next year. 

And Harold Fannin, who is a great piece to add with Njoku. 

@flugel said:

Me too!  Having said that, the most blue collar position on defense has one of the best DT prospects I've seen in years: Mason Graham.  He's not gonna lead the league in sacks, score any TDs (most likely), or anything that can produce points in a hurry per say.  What he WILL do is impose his will on OGs stuffing the point of attack at the line of scrimmage and command more than 1 blocker a very high percentage of snaps.  

And when you look at him - he still has pre-school baby fat all over him.  Don't let that fool you though; because that great big rascal can shut down an inside running game all by himself.  Let's just say he can make an opponent's running game feel like a clogged toilet...  The last place I want to see that Gerber Baby food smile is in another AFC North uniform...

Good call. Glad we got him. 

@runyon27 said:

It seems like in the past we have avoided with LB position in early rounds with the exception of JOK. We definitely need help there.  I suspect we go offense at 36 with TE or WR maybe.

Got Judkins.  Going to be Defense and heavy run game emphasis. Probably take online somewhere in third. 

@katfan4ever said:

I guess I've been a member for a while and only found out when I tried to create an account and was notified that my e-mail was already on file. A little about myself, I live in the Columbus area. I'm a huge OSU fan and I also root for ND. I've been a Browns fan since Blanton Collier(1968) was head coach, Indians fan since 1968 and Cavs fan since their very beginning. I'm a long time Browns season ticket holder and hope to hang around long enough to at least witness the Browns in the SB. I've witnessed 5 NFL/AFC championships but all of those came in my first 20 years of fandom. 

Welcome to the Boards. I’ve been a Browns fan since the Kardiac Kids days. The first Browns game I ever watched was the Minnesota game (I think in 1980) where they lost on a Hail Mary from Tommy Kramer to Ahmad Rishad at the end. 
 

Hoping to see some exciting Browns football this year. 
 

Go Browns, Go Cavs, Go Guardiand!

@flugel said:

Me too!  Having said that, the most blue collar position on defense has one of the best DT prospects I've seen in years: Mason Graham.  He's not gonna lead the league in sacks, score any TDs (most likely), or anything that can produce points in a hurry per say.  What he WILL do is impose his will on OGs stuffing the point of attack at the line of scrimmage and command more than 1 blocker a very high percentage of snaps.  

And when you look at him - he still has pre-school baby fat all over him.  Don't let that fool you though; because that great big rascal can shut down an inside running game all by himself.  Let's just say he can make an opponent's running game feel like a clogged toilet...  The last place I want to see that Gerber Baby food smile is in another AFC North uniform...

Yes, Graham would be a good pick also. He would be an excellent piece for our D-line. 
 

@robert333 said:

Apart from the, I presume, somewhat embarrassing comparison of slavery with foreign workers, this is an issue in many countries.

There is a "pool" internationally of people who cannot find work in their own countries.
Many countries take advantage of this in sectors which are indeed addicted to low-paid foreign workers, thereby taking potential work away from citizens by pricing them out of that type of job. 
The excuse from employers, typically in agricultural work, is that citizens are unwilling to do this kind of work. 
Why that is though, they never explain, nor do the politicians who support them. 

The answer to the latter is that employers take advantage of paying these foreign workers low wages.
While these foreign workers stay in the country temporarily, whichever country it is, and work in order to understandably send money back to their families, by comparison citizens (in the country employing the foreign workers) are priced-out of that job; due to the low wage by which they cannot support their families. 

This issue is the equivalent of where employers set up a factory abroad in countries with cheap labor, thus taking jobs away.

End the greed, pay proper wages for these jobs, and employ citizens! 

Well said! 

@vambo said:

'SO I'M LYING?'

Dem's rant about why US needs illegal immigrants takes odd turn, gets met with silence

We need immigrants, not illegal immigrants. And not just for “picking cotton”. Her comments smack of racism. 
 

@dutch-oven said:

I'm not sure I want to spend that high of a pick on a RB, but all and all I'm pretty much on board with all of this. I like Hunter and Carter at top of the draft, but also really like guys like Mason Graham, Will Johnson, Malaki Starks and the two Big Ten tight ends in Loveland and Warren. 

Yes, I know that RBs usually go lower. I think Hunter or Carter are clearly the the top tier. To me the rest are a different tier. 
 

I really like the thought of Warren though. Loveland too. And the others you mentioned are blue chip. 
 

but I hope we take Hunter at the end of the day. 

@orion said:

2025 Draft Value Chart:

To get to #24 - Minnesota  -  #2, #94, and a couple 6th rounders.

To get to #14 - Indy   -  the rest of our '25 draft picks  - OR   #33, 67 and probably a 2nd (or 3rd & 4th) rounder next year.

I think #2 in Minnesota trade you meant 33 right. 
 

I would do that trade if Sanders fell to 24. Easily. 
 

My top five for number 2

1. Travis Hunter  Best player on board  

2. Abdul Carter  opposite Miles  

3. trade down if possible. Pick up more picks. 

4. Ashton Jeanty hopefully to pair with Chubb  Bring Chubb home!!!) may be able to trade down to get  

5  Tyler Warren  to pair with Njoku  may be able to trade down to get  

QB or BPA (WR, OT, S, LB) at 33

hope a good QB is at 33 or late 20s (to trade up for)  

Yeah definitely not a great QB year. I’d be ok with taking Hunter at 2 and staying put at 33. 

@dutch-oven said:

That could very well be the asking price.

It wouldn't shock me if it was the 2026 first rounder.

The price is good for a mid first rounder But I’m not sold on any of these QBs being worth that much. (Even with position value factored in). I do think Sanders is the best project and  we do need a QB for sure. 

i  like Milroe as a project, but I don’t know where he’ll end up being taken. 

 

@dutch-oven said:

McShay was running through a scenario today where the Browns draft Hunter at #2 and then trade up into the middle of the first to get his teammate Sanders. 

That would be a bold move, Cotton. 

33, 67, and 2026 second. 

Not sure I like it  

@dutch-oven said:

McShay was running through a scenario today where the Browns draft Hunter at #2 and then trade up into the middle of the first to get his teammate Sanders. 

That would be a bold move, Cotton. 

That might be a good move, (if they like Sanders), but I’d have to see what they’re giving up as to whether I’d like it or not personally. 

Good signing. I was not happy when we let him go last year. I think we would have won several more games than we did if we had Flacco. 

Whatever QB we draft can sit and learn from Joe instead of being thrown in as a rookie (hopefully). 
 

I joined back in 2009, but never posted. No longer live in LA. I’m in West Texas now. Looking forward to the season and am excited about having Flacco back and that we finally have high draft picks. 
 

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