Well they haven't done anything to Aaron Donald so it's pointing towards a 9.5

@hoorta said: There's special areas on each of the levels desenigated for handicapped\ wheelchair seating. IIRC, they're set up to avoid the problem of people standing up in front of you.  Yes it's a long hike. I wonder if someone rents those motorized scooters? I'd try sites like : .....edit add, the phone got a little chopped off,  it's 407-545-3103.

@mjp28 said: Yeah like watching MICH/OHIO STATE at 7 am in Hawaii.   Breakfast and "The Game"  how unusual.  But at noon you can be on the beach watching bikinis.   And by six you go down somewhere near Anini Beach on Kauai and watch them come off. Anini is also my favorite snorkeling site anywhere in the Hawaiian Islands, so you get double the pleasure, double the fun.?

@sdbacker80 said: Lots of theories floating around but my belief is Watson (IF he’s suspended this season) will make a grand entrance against the AFC Champs on Monday night football that would make it a 7 game suspension.  The NFL wants eyeballs on Primetime games they don’t want to see a Brissett led Browns team.  We can beat Carolina, NYJets and the Falcons with Brissett. We have the Steelers mixed in their at home.  We can certainly pull off an ugly 13-10 type game there too.  We absolutely need Watson for LA chargers, Pats and Ravens all of which are going to be critical Tiebreaker type games come playoff time.     So fingers crossed it is only a four game suspension.  Well could be. Three groups to consider, first of all the league who's concerned with TV money and that could fit into their plans with a big Monday night game. Also the league is desperate to have a marquis black quarterback so I think they might be cutting some corners for him. They are already talking about waiting until the following season for whatever the suspension after things blow over a little bit. Also the NFL players Association who don't want a high bar set because of sexual misconduct.  Even though plenty of other players have suffered who were never convicted I think they would like to see this practice come to a halt. Third the owners I can't imagine they're happy about Jimmy setting the bar for a franchise player as high as he did. I doubt they're up for giving the Browns any special favors. WSS but looking at the first three or four games it smells like the fix is in.

@laiccm said: -Matt Lombardo of FanSided said  this morning said Baker could be comeback player of the year if he goes to Seattle -Vince Lombardi jr this morning said Watson maynot be suspended and that there's alot more to the case that's about to come out On item one I give it a .125% chance.  NFC West and he would be behind the Hawks line.     Item two, the fact that he settled some of the civil cases and was on what is essentially a paid leave last year.  I’ll give this a 10% chance.

@laiccm said: I disagree on 1 point...the picks and what we gave up mean not so much. For decades we had picks and was millions under the cap....where that ever get us? I get your point, but this isn't your 2010 Cleveland Browns. It actually does appear that there is a front office and coaching staff in place that is, at the least, relatively competent, so losing three first rounders, a third and two fourths is a big pill to swallow, especially for a team that will have difficult roster decisions to make due to a tightening salary cap belt. Quality veterans will be cut in the future due to the cap, and picks that would help replace those players are now gone.  

@laiccm said: Or....listen to this one....you can just not reply to the post? Lol The draft is only a month away...  

@lodilobo said: I like Watson as a player....don't like him as a person. I hate that all his $230 million is guaranteed. What's his motivation for the next 5 years? I won't like it ( well, maybe I will), if Baker's new team goes deep in the playoffs and we still suck First, with the new TV deals set for next year and the gambling revenue that will roll in, what seems high at this time will probably be at least normal if not mid range for a top tier QB.  QB's almost always make the most money on a team.  As the cap goes up, the money spread as a percentage will still remain similar as it has been.  QB's are going to be signing larger and larger deals. As for motivation, one has to hope a player has pride, and when you get down to it, once a player in todays market passes his guaranteed money, why do they stay motivated?  I mean once you have a certain amount in the bank I don't see players quit trying.  If anything, they might retire, but if they do that they won't get paid the rest of the contract.  I am sure the guarantee in place still has common outs if the player retires, and basic personal conduct clauses that could void the deal..

Matt Ryan the 36 or 37 year old 7 + 10 quarterback from Atlanta? Same Matt Ryan? Good. No doubt he'll be on the bargain list the NFL's version of Pull-A-Part. WSS

@nickers said: Ummm English please... I don't do Ebonics... I'm sure you know the soccer board......go back there...

@laiccm said: When teammates confront you like this...it's not just a molehill. I bet he don't do it again..... Has your out of town reporter shared which teammates confronted Baker yet?   The out of town storm chasers are in hot pursuit of the first Cleveland Brown besides Duke that is furious with Baker.   You can't have a tornado without wind even if BSPN's Adam Shefter says he heard there's wind somewhere (ie; announcing it's just about a done deal that Andy Reid will be the HC of the Arizona Cardinals right before the Chiefs named him as their new HC). Hear say leads to people like you swarming social media with false accusations like Baker said something about Duke's money. If you're going to go that route with unofficial, do you know who insults Duke the most about his money as a #2 RB?   All those teams in the league that don't want to trade a player/draft pick just so they can pay a #2 RB the 9th highest RB salary in the league.  That's a decent portion of the market telling Duke & Dorsey that Duke is overpaid.  Since we're using your preference, I don't even have to provide the name of 1 team.  See how easy this is?  That said, a week or 2 ago I heard him correct a reporter in front of a camera and mic saying "they already tried to trade me."  Okay Duke, so why don't you tell us what the bigger problem is?  Never mind, I already took care of that for you.  The only one putting "I before team" is Duke.  Baker's comment about getting on board with your teammates reflects the same type of leadership earned by a young game-changing/ culture changing QB. The comment invites Duke to get onboard with his teammates or get out of the way. Let's not take this out of context to a player (Duke) angry he needs to be paid more.  It's about a player pissed off Cleveland finally has a FO bringing in more talent and competition at every position they can.  Most non-trolls know Baker was never handed a comfortable niche anywhere he has been; so he's the last guy that will feel sorry for an overpaid player acting out because his comfortable niche is being challenged.  Duke's not responding well at all especially considering he has the first 8 games as a #2 RB to prove he deserves the same work load the final 8 games.  I'm not seeing a guy that believes in himself.    @tour2ma said: With Duke the first to utter this... Bottom line for me in this whole non-event was that I did not see Baker getting anywhere near Duke's "wallet" with his comments. Duke's wallet was already set thru 2021... when he'll be 28. His use in 2019 will have no negative impact on his 2022 contract... when he'll be 29. In fact it's an easier argument to make that saving miles in the short term will help him in the long run. Another argument that's easier to make? That Duke's lil hissy messed with the wallets of 52 teammates... Well said!  As to your point in bold above - that's another 52 reasons why we'll never see 1 teammate's name attached to confronting Baker.   

@walterwhite said: It's amazing how Manziel had to play defenses like Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, Missouri, and Arkansas Means nothing. Manziel also have 2 potential TOP 10 players playing with him (Evans and Mathews).