Austin Hooper's contract -- OTC below is post-june-1 values selected.. not sure why it pastes this way Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus   Guaranteed Salary   Cap Number Cap %   Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension  Total   $25,000,000 $17,000,000   $6,000,000   $42,000,000     2020 26 $1,500,000 $2,000,000   $1,500,000   $3,500,000 1.5%       2021 ? 27 $4,500,000 $3,750,000   $4,500,000   $8,250,000 3.9%       2022 28 $9,500,000 $3,750,000   $0   $13,250,000 6.1%   $3,750,000 $9,500,000 2023 29 $9,500,000 $3,750,000   $0   $13,250,000 5.9%   $3,750,000 $9,500,000 2024 ? 30 Void $3,750,000   Void   $3,750,000 1.5%   $3,750,000 $0 below is pre-june-1 Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus   Guaranteed Salary   Cap Number Cap %   Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension  Total   $25,000,000 $17,000,000   $6,000,000   $42,000,000     2020 26 $1,500,000 $2,000,000   $1,500,000   $3,500,000 1.5%       2021 ? 27 $4,500,000 $3,750,000   $4,500,000   $8,250,000 3.9%       2022 28 $9,500,000 $3,750,000   $0   $13,250,000 6.1%   $11,250,000 $2,000,000 2023 29 $9,500,000 $3,750,000   $0   $13,250,000 5.9%   $7,500,000 $5,750,000 2024 ? 30 Void $3,750,000   Void   $3,750,000 1.5%   $3,750,000 $0 So just FYI, looks like OverTheCap copy/pastes a bit more easy-to-read on this forum than Spotrac

@hoorta said: He could be back next week against the Patriots, but I wouldn't be expecting it...   Same. We're really going to miss him tomorrow. It could have been worse, which to me says it wasn't torn badly. 

Pats working to bring back Collins -- Good, let them once more deal with his nonsense. Cowboys article about Jaylon Smith -- His injury vs OSU was really severe and today's reality is he's just not athletic enough for the NFL. 2021 jaylon smith does not beat any of our current LB's for a roster spot.  You're thinking of his 2018 version.. as Dallas did when they resigned him. This thread should die..

@dutch-oven said: I'm sure the "Belichik wouldn't have won shit without Brady" argument will be trotted out, so allow me to retort: Using that logic, Paul Brown was an incredibly lucky head coach too. He didn't win shit without Otto Graham.  Gotta love a good preemptive strike...

@orion said: In TE's, the force is strong.    ?️?‍️

Looks like a mod agreed with me...

Ajayi has good bloodlines. Brother has a Superbowl ring.

@tour2ma said: I think Ratley is our tall supplement Thanks for posting the roster.  Ratley's a clingon that hasn't played much. Honestly, after OBJ & Landry, I couldn't even guess what our new coaches think about the rest of the bunch.  OBJ has been fragile.  I think they'll want to feel real comfortable at the WR3 spot in case he has to play as part of the 12 lineup.  

@mjp28 said: Was it your diet?  Should have tried less gassy food. I have no clue what you are talking about.   I was referring to a call center in my building. 

I don't think this analytics based FO wants anything to do with using the franchise tag where they would have to play some player the average of the Top 5 salaries at their position  in the league.    Moneyball....and that is what we are playing here with this team, says to acquire players on the cheap that you nevertheless think can contribute to your team.  It is NOT about spreading out big contracts all around.  The Moneyball thesis is simple: Using statistical analysis, small-market teams can compete by buying assets that are undervalued by other teams and selling ones that are overvalued by other teams.  If Schobert...or any other Browns player, seems that they are in a position to be paid more than this FO thinks they may be worth, even by  a smidgen,  then they are not going to go there.    I can almost guarantee you that the OBJ trade was NOT  a Depodesta strategy, but rather a Dorsey strategy. 

@westside-steve said: Kind of begs the question as to whether adding players to the offensive line or keeping the line intact and allowing them to learn to work together is the optimal plan of action. WSS The tackle position has to be upgraded. At best they are stopgaps.

@bjh2130 said: I really hope he gives us a hometown discount being from the area and being the team that gave him a second chance.  I don't know how much teams will be willing to pay him but I tend to believe it will be more than we want to offer a running back that isn't our "lead" back. Hopefully teams still have concerns and we can sign him to a similar contract that Duke Johnson signed (which was a really good contract for Duke). Doubtful, he led the NFL in rushing yards one season. As long as he remains well behaved, he'll command top dollar after his rookie contract expires.

@lbc-mike said: https://twitter.com/chadp71/status/1152917718766669824?s=09 I am not sure that I can argue with any of the 53 choices made here... Only, possibly the backup DTs...Coley and Lawrence over Price and Davis...but who really knows.  And maybe Hilliard stays insteadd of Charles. Maybe.

OK it's another boring off day before the start of summer camp for little ole Myles Garrett. Those are 40 lb. weights in each hand, not 50 as reported. But still!!!!!

I don't think we have to worry about Baker being sharp. If I was a betting man, I'd say Baker has the vision of that last Raven's drive going through his mind on a continuous loop. He missed that Landry deep out by 2 feet, and then missed a wide open Duke Johnson after Weddle blitzed (and held Duke, but whatever). That one drive is enough to make someone like Baker work even harder.  If Baker stays healthy, we have a QB for the next 12-15 years. I really believe it. I can honestly say I never thought it was going to happen for a while there, but we got our guy. The player I was SCREAMING to draft that I didn't think we would. But we did, and it's time to have fun. 

@hoorta said: Just one comment here Tour- it has to tear Justin Layne up that he was drafted by the Steelers, he grew up in Cleveland and is a huge Browns fan. Wanted the Browns to draft him.     If Greedy Williams had been picked I think the Browns would have. The Browns took Layne out for dinner TWO days before the draft. 

@ibleedbrown said: It’s a brilliant move. All the DBs will focus on popping Hyman while the other wideouts will be free to catch pass after pass.

@lbc-mike said: Sorry long time fan.  What will happen, God forbid Baker has an injury.  IBJ becomes a bitch for not getting enough touches.  Kitchens not able to control the locker room. We have talent like no other.  I am excited.  I have been once bitten once shy to be placing my life savings and home on the line.  I would never do a thing. Do you guys have these thoughts? I love the browns.  please sacrifice a chicken under the full moon soon to undo this curse you have bestowed on us !!!!! LOL 

But also good prep and evaluation fodder... especially given the past reduction in preseason games from 6 to 4.

@lbc-mike said: I meant an impact changer.  I know we will fill holes, add depth and add special teams with the draft picks.   Starter caliber with our later picks.  Everybody wants that, but it rarely happens.  Dorsey is as good at finding thoe players as anyone.  Just because you and I don't see impact players left doesn't mean Dorsey doesn't.  I am sure he has 4-5 targeted players per round.  We will just have to see if we can get any of them.