Its been awhile...but I just checked back in to see what was being said around here and see that the board is coming to an end. It was a long time ago when Stan and I were discussing on AOL one night how to keep the message board running and he set this place up. Good to see its been taken care of the last few years since we lost Stan.

Sorry to see it go...nice to see some familiar names still around here. But sadly, I kindof have the same feelings as Hoorta. I cancelled Sunday ticket this year, choosing to save the several hundred dollars and just stick with the Red Zone.

I'll keep checking in to see what happens and if 10/16 is the last day, I'll be here to give it the proper send off!

Mark

@orion said:

Agreed.  I think that with someone who can play like OBJ we would have a good passing attack.  We already have a good running game.  Too bad we didn't get to see Greedy Williams again this year so that we could understand if he's really any good or not.  Same holds true for Delpit.

Who is this Greedy williams guy y'all are talking about?  

Clearly we need a serious upgrade on defense.   The offense was really good this year and with an off-season and training camp together, I think they will be even better on the offensive side of the ball.   I don't think we have more than 2 or 3 true starters on defense....the rest are all just guys and wouldn't be missed if they were all replaced.

Zombo said:

And it was actually better than Kiser /Kessler / Hogan.

Thank you, Baker, thank you.

Z

God what a shit show those 3 were.

Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan?   Telling us all for weeks that Hogan was the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers. 

@tour2ma said:

Daboll was '09-'10... worked with DA and BQ in '09, and Colt/Seneca/Delhome in 2010.

 Colt/Seneca/Delhome.....yikes...what a trio that was. 

@pat-mahomo said:

whata ya wanna do?

Bet that you won't get your old name back??   Anything you want dude.   There's no chance you get your old name back around here. 

@pat-mahomo said:

1.  When we do crush you....I want my original name back (Zerovoltz)

Willing to bet that won't happen. 

Great read.   There's no question he's  proven that he is the QB for the future for us along with having a coach that knows how to get the best out of his players as opposed to forcing the players to adjust to his system.

@bob806 said:

I believe the NFL did away with the SNF & MNF games a few years ago so no team was at a possible competitive disadvantage heading into the playoffs (short week). 

It also wanted to emphasize the importance of Week 17 with playoff spots on the line. Lots of scoreboard watching.

This year may be especially crazy in week 17. A few good teams will be left out.

That is correct but they also put all the games with "meaning" at the same time so there's no advantage or a team not having to play the last weekend because of an earlier result. 

Apparently NBC still holds the Sunday night window and could take a game and put it there if they choose to so keep that in mind also.   But at the very least it's likely we play in the 4pm eastern time window in week 17.

@dutch-oven said:

If the Sunshine and Rainbows Gang could tell the rest of us when it is appropriate to complain about the direction of the professional football organization we root for, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! 

How about after the current HC has actually you know....coached a game or two that actually counts??     I don't understand saying a guy or a FO is shitty when they haven't even had a chance to do anything yet.  

But carry on with the sky is falling and the team is shitty and they're all getting fired next offseason.    Hope y'all have something fun to do in your spare time because there's a lot of you who certainly aren't having any fun with the football team.  

@hoorta said:

If you want some real negativity, usually you can find a ton of it if you open up the comments section that goes along with the articles.  

Or just visit this board for all the negativity you can possibly handle in less than 5 minutes.... 

See you guys in a few weeks.

@nickers said:

These cock suckers deserve nothing!... They must EARN IT!!

you can choose to be positive or you can choose to be negative..  the choice is yours... 

@hoorta said:

Who said anything about  blind support?  I certainly  said it- SHOW ME this time around. 

I get the years of losing  and failed  expectations have caused plenty of  fans to take a  jaundiced  eye towards  anything  Browns.  But this time around, the acid criticism right out  of the gate without  even giving the Front Office  and  Coaches a chance  is over the top. MHO. 

Regarding Stefansky being "unproven" 90%+ of all head coach hires are unproven first time around. And the failure rate of "proven" retread head coaches is spectacular,  with few exceptions.  Hue and Shure-loss for starters, and I could probably  come up with at least a dozen  others if I  bothered to think about it  for a minute. 

Exactly right.  

These guys all deserve the fans support until they prove that they don't deserve it when the games are actually being played.   Just like with Freddie last year.   I loved everything he said last offseason and I really thought and hoped he would be a very good HC.   He proved he wasn't ready for the job by his performance as a HC when the games started.   Hopefully Stefanski is a guy who can make the leap from coordinator to HC and be very good at the job.   I think he can....at least until he proves that he can't. 

@hoorta said:

There's  plenty of  despair, doom and gloom  making the  rounds now. 

More than enough to be honest.  

@texasag1969 said:

Well join the BB mock draft then. It's a great way to speculate and become familiar with the best players available. Plus it's fun when we actually draft and we hear a collective "WTF, who the hell is that and why that high? a la Tico Taco, Corbett, etc."?

I've watched it for years...  I dno't know enough about college football to have a clue and I'm not committing to anything in case i forget to log in for a week or two...but thanks for the invite! 

@gumby73 said:

yeah, but nobody could drag them thru the 'old cellar' like you..Hoorta blinds them first by vaporizing gun, Than kicks them between the teeth?.. good to see ya posting again ?

not sure how long I'll last during the offseason with all the doom and gloom 6 months before they even play a practice game. 

@d-bone said:

This thread is like the ending of Old Yeller. 

Most of the board members are like the ending of Old Yeller....   Exactly why I stay away for long periods of time.  

and yet you're still here bitching and moaning in the offseason.    Coach hasn't coached a game..GM hasn't picked a player and they all suck already.   Why bother being here if the team makes you so miserable?  I don't get it.

Ian Rapoport

The #Vikings are turning to a familiar face for their new OC: Gary Kubiak, who has been an assistant head coach and offensive advisor, is taking over as the offensive coordinator, sources say. His impact was felt quickly in Minnesota and now he sticks around.

@the-gipper said:

NFL Football:      9

College Football:    8

Major League Baseball    9

NBA Basketball:    1

College Basketball:     5

WNBA:   0

Women's college basketball    0

NHL  hockey    7

MLS/Premier League/World Cup soccer     7

Golf     8

Tennis     7

Winter Olympics Sports  (break it down if you wish)     5

Summer Olympics Sports (break it down if you wish)    5

NASCAR/Indy/Formula One auto racing    7

Boxing    0

UFC    0

Cricket    0

College/High School Wrestling  (real wrestling)    0

Bowling   2

Cue Sports:   Pool/Billiards/Snooker     0

LaCrosse    0

Horse Racing   1

Rugby   0

Rodeo     0

Surfing     0

Ultimate Frisbee     0

eSports    0

Did I miss anything.  (Fake wrestling is not a sport any more than ballroom dancing)

Grew up in North Ridgeville...  moved to SoCal in summer of '82.  Moved to Orlando, Fl in August of 2019.